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Title: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: LMT on June 30, 2008, 06:14:06 AM
When looked at in this light, we here in the US do not have it so bad.  The full artical is here:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/weekinreview/29marsh.html?_r=1&ref=weekinreview&oref=slogin



(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/06/29/weekinreview/0629-nwr-sub4MARSH-800x621.jpg)


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: vwboomer on June 30, 2008, 06:43:48 AM
Everyone knows that we don't have it that bad, really. Just goes to show that those countries need to overthrow their overtaxing governments  [leo]

I'm glad the tank of gas in my truck lasts 2 months though ;)


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: cyrus buelton on June 30, 2008, 07:01:53 AM
I am a bit surprised it is so expensive in Russia considering they are large oil producers.

But then I start thinking about who got the oil/gas industry after the break up and realized the mob is controlling it.


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: Statler on June 30, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
It's also important to see a chart with how prices have risen over time in different countries in the country's own money.     


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: sbrguy on June 30, 2008, 10:08:09 AM
true compared to most of the world america isn't doing too bad.

higher gas prices are actually GOOD for america.. its the only way that will force companies and people to conserve, and explore alternative fuels in earnest rather than "well someday i'll get around to doing that, but don't worry that someday is like 200 years from now"

quite simply american's are driving less miles bc of high oil prices and using LESS oil bc of that.  which is a good thing overall.. afterall why would the saudi's call a meeting last week to discuss oil prices?

they are scared SH&T that American's might actually start to buy LESS of their product and maybe sooner rather than later figure out ways to use even less of their product, sure china buys a lot of oil from them but we still buy a huge chunk from them, they don't want their second best customer suddenly cutting back on spending any appreciable amount.


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: cyrus buelton on June 30, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
quite simply american's are driving less miles bc of high oil prices and using LESS oil bc of that.  which is a good thing overall.. afterall why would the saudi's call a meeting last week to discuss oil prices?

Got a link to substantiate that claim?


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: Grampa on June 30, 2008, 10:38:56 AM
Got a link to substantiate that claim?

It's from the Institute of Obvious Conclusions


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: fwtcc on June 30, 2008, 11:07:11 AM
Honestly, I am putting on more miles.  I switched out a Jeep for a Mini and a Ducati.  I still use A LOT less gas though.


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: il d00d on June 30, 2008, 11:29:30 AM
Got a link to substantiate that claim?


link (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91658095) "Driving did taper off during the energy crisis of the 1970s... But highway officials liken that to a plateau — and this to a cliff."

In actuality, we don't import (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_a.htm) that much oil from the Saudis.  But it is good that it has gotten expensive enough so that we are now investigating cheaper and more efficient ways of getting from point A to B.


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: DY on June 30, 2008, 12:01:48 PM
Wow, ive seen a comparison chart before but never with the "excluding taxes" portion.  If you notice, gas prices are pretty much equal everywhere... its just the cost of Tax that makes Europe so freakin expensive. 

No wonder why the New England colonist rebelled against Britain back in the 1700's. 


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: cyrus buelton on June 30, 2008, 12:33:02 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25454502/


9 in 10 American's feel that gas costs will squeeze budgets.


PUHLEAZE


Might want to prioritize your spending habits.


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: BWClark on June 30, 2008, 03:38:52 PM
Yeah, from down here in New Zealand, Americans sound like a bunch of whiners!  [cheeky]

Gas here is about US$6.05 a gallon. In our local currency it is $2.10/litre (about $8/gallon). And don't go thinking we make a lot of dollars here. Average income is around $40k.

I'm looking at moving back to the US, and the cheap gas is a nice bonus to me...

Oh, and +1 on the overtaxing governments. NZ has a Goods and Services Tax of 12.5% on fuel, and part of that fuel price is already tax. We have a tax on a tax!  [roll]


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: Triple J on June 30, 2008, 03:54:36 PM
In actuality, we don't import (http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_epc0_im0_mbblpd_a.htm) that much oil from the Saudis.  But it is good that it has gotten expensive enough so that we are now investigating cheaper and more efficient ways of getting from point A to B.

They are our second largest external source of oil, behind Canada, accounting for about 8% of our supply. Not huge, but definitely significant.


Title: Re: Gas Price chart from the NYT
Post by: DoubleEagle on June 30, 2008, 04:00:20 PM
Wow, ive seen a comparison chart before but never with the "excluding taxes" portion.  If you notice, gas prices are pretty much equal everywhere... its just the cost of Tax that makes Europe so freakin expensive. 

No wonder why the New England colonist rebelled against Britain back in the 1700's. 
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