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Title: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 04, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
anyone know if there's a real diff in the ergos between these two? i have been working to fit my 99 m900 to me --6'4" -- for too long. i'm wondering if trading up to the S4R would allow me to keep riding an old monster? (though i am buying a new one too.)

Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Dirty Duc on November 04, 2012, 04:12:00 PM
The pegs are in a slightly different location.

http://cycle-ergo.com/ (http://cycle-ergo.com/)
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: stopintime on November 04, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
What would you like to have different?
What is the problem, if any?

Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 04, 2012, 04:54:24 PM
oh. my. GOD! what an awesome website!

so, from this site, it appears the s4r would be way easier on the big guy's knees -- same knee angle as the new gen. interesting...
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 04, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
i need more space for my legs. i also have an s1000rr and that feels comfy next to my old m900, as does the new gen. but i like the look of the old monsters, so i was looking for a solution.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: dufukincati on November 04, 2012, 05:17:44 PM
I have a 1997 M900 and a 2008 S4RS. They feel pretty similar to me with the stock rearsets. If anything, my legs fit the S4RS tank groove a little better. I notice a little more forward lean on the S4RS also. I'm 6'2 btw.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 04, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
thanks for the reply -- i'll probably just keep my 99 m900 and try to lower the pegs a little. i've put too much work into her to let her go -- i like wrenching on her and i still want to add the flatsides. then i'll get a new 20th anniversary 1100 evo to ride as a daily and track the s1krr.

anyone else spend every last penny on bikes?  [beer]
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Dirty Duc on November 04, 2012, 07:06:06 PM
A cheaper solution is to swap to SSS and put on S2r rear sets.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 04, 2012, 07:58:43 PM
how much $$$ and how much of a pita is it to swap an m900 to a SSS? figured i'd have to pay at least $1k for the swingar, $1.5k for the wheel. would my current shock work? if not, that's another $1k.

still getting the new evo, but i like. [drool]
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Dirty Duc on November 04, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
Oh... I forgot you are hoopy rear suspension. 
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Kopfjager on November 04, 2012, 10:04:45 PM
Try some Cycle Cat rearsets.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: stopintime on November 05, 2012, 12:54:46 AM
Quote from: showerfan on November 04, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
i need more space for my legs. i also have an s1000rr and that feels comfy next to my old m900, as does the new gen. but i like the look of the old monsters, so i was looking for a solution.

I'm 6'3". I moved the foot pegs 40mm back. That opens up the hip joint, but not the knees. Open knees require lower pegs - if that's ok for you regarding the bike's lean angle - if not, a raised seat might help.

The slippery stock pegs can sometimes disturb confidence - resulting in tense lower body muscles. Knurled race'y pegs might be more comfortable just because the feet are 'glued' in place.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Raux on November 05, 2012, 01:08:06 AM
Stopintime, didn't you also build up a seat that is like 2 inches taller?
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: stopintime on November 05, 2012, 01:15:19 AM
Quote from: Raux on November 05, 2012, 01:08:06 AM
Stopintime, didn't you also build up a seat that is like 2 inches taller?

About an inch, yes.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: SDRider on November 05, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
I don't know about the older Monsters but the Ducati comfort seat for the M1100 EVO adds about an inch over the stock seat which relaxes the knees a bit.  I'm 5'11" though so everything seems to fit me just fine.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Speeddog on November 05, 2012, 12:42:56 PM
I just measured a 696, S2R800, and a '98 M750, which spans the full range of Monster configurations.

All were 17" from top of pegs to seat.

Some (all?) 620's came with a lower seat, ~3/4" IIRC.

Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 05, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
kopfjäger -- i WISH! that stuff is serious unobtanium. been trying to get hold of some cycle cat rearsets for six months meow.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: Kopfjager on November 05, 2012, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: showerfan on November 05, 2012, 08:08:31 PM
kopfjäger -- i WISH! that stuff is serious unobtanium. been trying to get hold of some cycle cat rearsets for six months meow.

I thought he was taking orders? I have a set for an 03 800 if they'll fit.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: 118811 on November 07, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
I installed 30mm risers on my hoop (M900 1998)...actually raises the seat about 2-3"
Does make the bike a little quicker steering wise....but I like it.

(http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss192/118811/IMG_2003-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 08, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
118811 -- fck yeah! You're always making me jealous! Where did you get those risers? I want to go to there.  [drool]
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: 118811 on November 08, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
Quote from: showerfan on November 08, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
118811 -- fck yeah! You're always making me jealous! Where did you get those risers? I want to go to there.  [drool]

[evil] [evil] ;D

Thanks....got them from a Member here.....
every now them I run into on ebay as well
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: thought on November 09, 2012, 06:13:11 AM
It's not the old style monster but try sitting on a sf... The pegs are set lower than a new monsters and I've had a 6'4 friend sit in mine.  He said it was really comfy with no issues with the knee bend.
Title: Re: Ergos: m900 vs. S4Rt/s?
Post by: showerfan on November 09, 2012, 03:08:44 PM
thanks, thought. yeah, i def want to try out a SF 848. i have other bikes as well, and all of them are more comfy than my old monster -- even the S1kRR. the new monster feels like a dirtbike compared to my m900