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Moto Board => Accessories & Mods => Topic started by: Ryanc7 on November 18, 2012, 08:02:22 AM



Title: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Ryanc7 on November 18, 2012, 08:02:22 AM
Hi it is time to put away my baby for the winter so its time to start modding slowly and the first on the chopping block will be my levers.
I have small hands and I find the reach needed for the stock grips a little tiring for my hands so my question is.

What are the better levers to get a much closer adjustment?
And I am looking at ASV Levers and want to know what the big difference is between their C5 model 125$ or then F3 model at 90$

And if anyone prefers another brand I have very much open to suggestion

Thanks


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: stopintime on November 18, 2012, 08:49:39 AM
I'm not sure any of the aftermarket levers are VERY much closer  :-\

Then again it doesn't take much to give you a better result.

Some CRG and ASV production series don't have the tab needed to push the brake light switch and/or clutch safety switch. Ask the vendor if 'yours' does.

With a shorter reach, please make sure (very sure) that the engagement point is professionally adjusted. I've seen many that are not adjusted at all - resulting in a lever that won't do it's job before it hits the bar. Even professional mechanics often don't understand the correct procedure. You can read about the procedure here (scroll down):  http://www.ducatisuite.com/leverchange.html (http://www.ducatisuite.com/leverchange.html)


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Barney on November 18, 2012, 12:08:25 PM
i'm very happy with my shorty crg rc2's.  i you search around the board, you'll find various opinions on the ebay knockoffs as well...


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Ryanc7 on November 18, 2012, 12:34:14 PM
i'm very happy with my shorty crg rc2's.  i you search around the board, you'll find various opinions on the ebay knockoffs as well...
They look pretty sick but are they 200 per lever? or for the pair? and how short can you get the adjustment on them?


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Speeddog on November 18, 2012, 12:54:49 PM
They're about $200 for a pair.

Not sure about the adjustability, but the original CRG's can usually be adjusted overly short, IE barely adequate to disengage the clutch or get full brake before it's really close to the bar.

FWIW, I've got large hands and the original CRG's, and like the levers out quite far.

Hoping some of our small-hand members can chime in.


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Ryanc7 on November 18, 2012, 01:38:17 PM
As do I , any small handed people want to chime in?


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: S21FOLGORE on November 18, 2012, 04:15:11 PM
I have fairly small hands, but ...
I don't think you'd have to move brake / clutch lever THAT close to the grip. (unless your hands are really REALLY, extremely small.)

How small are your hands?
Are you holding the grip in the right way? (I'm going to post about this, with more detailed info, later. I'm in the middle of my laundry right now.)

Here's the example of "small hand VS Ducati monster S4R".


Brake

1)brake not applied
(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o420/ZX750E2/IMG_0719.jpg)

2this is where brake light switch clicks
(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o420/ZX750E2/IMG_0720.jpg)

3)brake fully applied
(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o420/ZX750E2/IMG_0721.jpg)


Clutch

1)clutch fully engaged
(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o420/ZX750E2/IMG_0722.jpg)

2)this is where you start to feel the clutch springs resistance
(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o420/ZX750E2/IMG_0723.jpg)

3)clutch lever fully pulled in
(http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o420/ZX750E2/IMG_0724.jpg)

NOTE : I went through stock (brake) lever =>AVS lever (with stock master cylinder) => Brembo Radial master cylinder (comes with lever). If I were in your place, I'd skip "changing just levers" stage and get radial master for front brake.
As for the clutch, you know you don't have to pull in the lever that much when the bike is moving at certain speed ?
Unless you do a lot of riding in a congested city streets, you shouldn't have to move the lever THAT close to the gripl


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Barney on November 18, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
They're about $200 for a pair.

Not sure about the adjustability, but the original CRG's can usually be adjusted overly short, IE barely adequate to disengage the clutch or get full brake before it's really close to the bar.

FWIW, I've got large hands and the original CRG's, and like the levers out quite far.

Hoping some of our small-hand members can chime in.

this.  

i like the short boys because i tend to use 1-2 fingers like the previous post's pics, and i dont like to have all that extra lever crushing my fingers.

if you like, i can snap some pics of them and post 'em up.


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Ryanc7 on November 18, 2012, 07:40:35 PM
Yes please do post pics,, i was thinking short clutch long brake


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: uglyducky on November 18, 2012, 08:44:00 PM
my favorite levers ever are the FP racing tactical bi-folds for fit, finish, and adjustability but, alas, they don't make em for the radial masters that i'm aware of . . .
http://www.fpracingusa.com/ (http://www.fpracingusa.com/)


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: bob795 on November 19, 2012, 05:23:20 AM
I have CRG RC2 levers, the short ones and love it. They're adjustable and since I usually use two-finger on brake and 3 fingers on clutch, the short ones suits me really well. Replacing the levers was the first modification I did to my monster ... and it makes slow riding in heavy traffic (where feathering the clutch is a must) really comfortable.   


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: thought on November 19, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
I'd say the range of adjustment is pretty standard nowadays... I think the ASV's have a better range though with finer increments.

That being said... if you're just testing them out, I'd just get some ebay ones.  You can check reviews on this board, they're fine and they're sometimes cheaper than the shipping you'd pay for buying the name brand ones.


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: hunduc on November 19, 2012, 03:35:05 PM
fairly small hands here. i am using shorty pazzos for both and i love them. i was using four fingers on the stock ones, so i was a little hesitant going with the shorties, but they turned out to be great at the end. i am using two fingers now for pulling, and the pazzos can also be adjusted close enough.


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: Melfqw on December 03, 2012, 12:10:14 AM
I may be a bit late if you have already ordered levers, but just my 2 cents on ASV...

Hate them. They look amazing, and function perfectly. However, I like to ride without gloves, and I guess the oil on my hands must wear away the paint on the front of the lever that says "ASV". I've already had them replaced once, and the dealership said they called in and the guy from ASV told him that they had been having this problem a few times from a "bad batch" of paint. The replacement required me to send my levers in, and then for them to replace or refurbish them and then send them back. The replacement took a month or so and in that month I was forced back to my stock levers (ugh). Maybe 3 months later, and it is already happening again on the clutch side.

For a 200$ lever you would think that the levers would work for more than a month...


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: JoeB on December 03, 2012, 05:32:40 AM
I have Titax racing levers on mine. I put them on recently, and I love them. They are short levers, so designed for 2 finger clutch and brakes and the feel through the lever is fantastic.  product quality is great. I've used them on other bikes before so it was a no-brainer.


Title: Re: Best Brake/Clutch levers?
Post by: koko64 on December 05, 2012, 03:13:16 AM
CRG full length on the clutch side. MW folding on the brake side.

Both on 999 radial master cylinders. Good feel and operation. No annoying vibration and easy adjustment. I have the clutch lever out a long way (4 out of 5 clicks) for plenty of  modulation. I have the brake lever closer for quick access (it never comes too close to the bar).


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