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Well, call me traitor, but I kind of like this one:

http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cb1100.aspx (http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cb1100.aspx)

(http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Honda/2010_CB1100/Honda_CB1100_Black.jpg)

Nice but shit that's expensive.  I'd rather buy an original for half the cost

Simple, classic design...... [thumbsup]
10k   ???

Maybe I like it because it looks very similar to my (now sold ... sich  :'( ) old 2001 Bandit.  The CB1100 has less plastic though.
87HP ... I bet that engine can do more than that with simple tweaking  ;D

I like the retro styiling, the 10k price not so much. Id rather have a Bonneville [drink]

Gotta say again...this a great bike.  I love the lines, too.
Price not so much.
But being a Honda it would be ride, ride.........and on.
Also, other than maybe a new exhaust....no mods would be needed. [thumbsup]

Yea, lets be honest here.  Being a honda. the only thing that thing is going to need is gas.. and its going to run indefinetly. No elctrical problems, no major maintenance intervals.. yada, yada , yada. It looks good, and the reliability I guess justifies the cost.

True, true & true.

Price....should be 8K, tho..... [cheeky]

Ugh, side panels.  Can't Honda come up with a better way to hide the battery?  The tabs on those things are always breaking.  I'm still looking for the right side panel for my 83 V45 Magna.  One of the corners broke off, so that tab is gone.  Feh.

Still can't get over the 10k. 

This site has always awesome hires pictures:

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2013models/2013-Honda-CB1100.htm (http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2013models/2013-Honda-CB1100.htm)

Which competing bikes are you using to figure what the price should be?  I think Honda is trying to place this just above the top of the line Triumph Bonneville.  I think the two-tone Bonneville T100 is about $9K?  This CB1100 has about 20 more hp and 275 more cc in engine size. So maybe that is how Honda is trying to place it in the market.

What sells me is the big analog clocks.  Hi tech digital for the stuff that doesn't matter is fine but I like those big dials!

The Bonny has more in the looks department IMO.  I'm not comparing it to any particular bike just feel it's way to high no matter the brand.  I personally think they would have struck gold at around 7k and done something more aesthetically pleasing on the single-sided exhaust.  I'll also stand by my own choice in that I want no ABS.

Only the most entry level bikes are much below $10k these days.

And probably half three market or more is priced in the $15-20k+ range.

So what the heck it's wrong with $10k for this. The 1200 Sporty, the T100/Thruxton, the 696, the V7 and V7 Racer are all in this ballpark.

Classic look with moderen performance - I've ridden the old CB500's & 750's back in the day - they were rockets - exhaust PCIII & airbox mod and you will be over 100HP I'm sure - with Honda's pricing you should be able to pick one up for $8.5-9K after they've been out for awhile - Triumphs don't deal as much so bascially it is in that ballpark under $10K.

Memory is a funny thing and speed perception is all relative.  I've ridden a few CB550's and the word "rocket" never came to mind.

I think the price objections are based on the concept of a lightly updated late 70's bike for $10k.

Irrelevant. That doesn't make it either cheaper to produce or worth less relatively speaking in the market place.

Wrong, very relevant to me and the market I predict will drive the prices down quickly.   My 3 pennies.

When I was a little kid (like 13..14yo) my brother had a Moto Morini 3 1/2 and an Honda CB750.
My favorite part of the summer days was the night, when my brother would leave to go out in night clubs, and I was stealing his bikes for nightly rides  ;D
I know it was double the cc, but the CB750 felt like a friggen rocket to me  [Dolph]

The MARKET MAY drive the price down. But if it does I suspect it's more the result of the trend of devaluation of Japanese cycles than it is the bike itself or the genre. But that doesn't mean this isn't a fair MSRP.

Just look at the other bikes in the segment (pretty much US or Euro brands) they hold their MSRPs very well and are priced similarly (and one can be argued in most of their cases they are also "lightly updated late 70's" bikes).

bonneville is a better looking bike, but there are WAY too many of them on the road. at least here in manhattan. thruxton is cooler. but this bike is pretty sweet with more power and uniqueness. wonder how many honda will sell...  [coffee]

travman, you have a GRISO?!?!  [Dolph] how awesome is it? i really want to ride one  [drool]

Here is a thread with some impressions of the Griso.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=58529.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=58529.0)

My Griso is currently my favorite bike to ride. Last weekend I had the opportunity to ride the Streetfighter 848 and a Diavel on a long unsupervised test ride.  I was blown away by how good those bikes are.  I was a little worried that on the ride home I'd be disappointed in the Griso because of how awesome the Streetfighter handles and how awesome the Diavel accelerates. No worries. My Griso still shines even in comparison to those two awesome bikes.  It is a different bike with a different feel. It is quick. Not as blindly fast as either of those two Ducatis, but the acceleration of the Griso 8V is very satisfying.  There is a nice quality to its acceleration that I like.  It is very stable in the corners.

i like it a lot   [thumbsup]

It will be after it sits in someone's garage for a year or so.

THIS is what I'm talking about.   [Dolph]
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/3433130954.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/3433130954.html)

And the seat can also be used as a couch!

Meh, not a fan of 30yo bikes, if I actually plan to ride it daily.
I don't like to dress like Indiana Jones to hunt maintenance parts like they were the Holy Grail :D

That, and the L-Z-Boys seat :)

Get rid of the queen sized mattress above the rear wheels and cafe the hell out of it.  GSXR front end, get rid of all the chrome and chop the tail.  Then we're talking.

you didn't get it........price and it looks great, even better in fact.  Also, you'd be surprised how unlikely it is for you to hunt parts for a honda that old.  This isn't a Ducati after all.  ;)

That's fine if that's what you want - but it is patently ridiculous to call a NEW MODEL over-priced because you can buy a 30 year old one cheaper.

That's listed in the Great Book of Duh, page 1.

You always pay more for brand new.

You will also ALWAYS work more (repair and maintenance) on something that is decades old, than on something that is brand new.

I don't care if it was made by the holy Honda, NOTHING is impervious to degredation from age.

Seals dry out, metal corrodes, wiring insulation drys and cracks, solder gives out.

Not to mention even if restored it's got 4 carbs to balance, it's not EFI, there's no ABS offered, it is about as different in those basic areas as two related vehicles can be.

And for many, myself included, that's worth THOUSANDS of dollars. I paid my dues a long time ago. I want to hop on my bikes and ride, change oil once a yearish, and basically not worry about them because I have too many more important drains on my time (job, family etc). I want my bikes to work when I need them and not be a nuisance when I don't.

I'm not saying vintage bikes are crap, but they are VINTAGE BIKES and that means they will require more attention, be harder to find parts and accessories and, most importantly, according to the market, are simply WORTH less $$$.

A bargain if that's what you want, but not an equivalent. And certainly, NOT a statement on what this new bike should be worth at market.

long response.   [clap]
I still prefer the old one  :-*
although this is new technology I'd buy, yes I'm aware it's more expensive but it blows the Honda out of the water
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/montey2005/photo-8.jpg)

 [thumbsup]  I'll take the Norton first too.  [beer]

At last we agree.  This is a nice replica of years past with just the right touches of tomorrow

But at 2x+ the price?

No doubt the Commando is a great looking bike, but we are not even in the same galaxy, price wise.

Well, if you want to be REALL honest, I'm buying a Guzzi V7 Stone before any of them....  [thumbsup]  Should be in any day now.

Great looking bike!  Please post copious pics when you get it home!!   [Dolph]   [thumbsup]   [beer]

Will be happy to... now just waiting on FBF to tell me it's arrived in the crate finally!

Ordered the damn thing back in June and it was SUPPOSED to be in back in mid October.  :o  [bang]

2 year waiting list for the Norton ,they dont tell you that when you order one = lots off pissed off customers

Are they still in operation? I thought I'd read that they were basically taking deposits from one potential owner to pay for building the bike for another. That without additional financing they were basically becoming the motorcycle equivalent of a Ponzi scheme. Didn't sound like they were going to make it.

Sadly, it seems to be the case:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2012/08/nortongate/ (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2012/08/nortongate/)

Would be nice if HFL credited the *original* author at the top of the story, rather than buried on the bottom.

http://www.bikerglory.com/2012/08/the-norton-saga/ (http://www.bikerglory.com/2012/08/the-norton-saga/)

Stewart Garner is a flim flam man. >:(
Call Matt at CNW and get a nicely sorted out real Norton.  [thumbsup]