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Title: Britten
Post by: kopfjäger on December 26, 2012, 05:23:26 PM

http://silodrome.com/britten-backyard-visionary-documentary/ (http://silodrome.com/britten-backyard-visionary-documentary/)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: kopfjäger on December 26, 2012, 08:09:42 PM
Make sure you click the video.  [bow_down]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Pedro-bot on December 26, 2012, 08:58:51 PM
Thanks for sharing.
 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Raux on December 27, 2012, 01:54:41 AM
so, now I understand the desire of Ducati with the frameless. they were getting their ass handed to them by one.  [bow_down]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Stabel1 on December 27, 2012, 02:29:19 AM
great, always loved the britten. thanksjavascript:void(0);


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: bob795 on December 27, 2012, 04:19:20 AM
Thanks  kopfjager  [thumbsup]
Love the story.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: zooom on December 27, 2012, 04:44:55 AM
I have drooled underneath the one in the Barber Museum looking over some of the detail and work he did....it is foooking impressive what he did to say the least....


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: graydo on December 27, 2012, 09:30:37 AM
Inspirational,with determination we can achieve anything we set our minds to.
thanks for sharing...



Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Blackout on December 28, 2012, 10:45:07 AM
Britten was one tenacious sumpregnant dog. [bow_down]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: abby normal on December 28, 2012, 06:01:49 PM
John Britten was an engineering genius ...not unlike Burt munroe,
Also from new Zealand.  The solving motorcycle museum has one
For anyone in so-cal.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Blackout on December 28, 2012, 10:29:55 PM
Solvang? ???


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: SDRider on December 28, 2012, 11:09:38 PM
Incredible... thanks for sharing!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: abby normal on December 29, 2012, 07:43:39 AM
Solvang? ???

Yup ... Sorry for the typo.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Nero-92 on December 29, 2012, 11:41:58 AM
A true gent had the good fortune to meet the man in a pub on the island in the mid ninetys thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Chucko9-696 on January 02, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Thanks for sharing that was awesome [bow_down] [drink]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: justinrhenry on January 03, 2013, 07:04:47 PM
A true gent had the good fortune to meet the man in a pub on the island in the mid ninetys thanks for sharing.

(http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/demotivational-posters-punctuation.jpg)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: triangleforge on January 04, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Thanks for sharing that link!! 

Watching it makes me wonder yet again... Why haven't more of John Britten's (and for that matter, Michael Czysc') ideas made it into race & production bikes?

I'm particularly interested in fork design. Tubular forks have some real limitations compared to the Britten & MotoCzysc designs (which should be MUCH easier to tune for different flex characteristics front to back & side to side) or hub steering as done by Bimota and others. I've seen nothing but rave reviews from the test riders who've gotten to put them through their paces, but outside of Britten's runs at Daytona, hardly any teams are willing to think outside the tubes.

Is it a matter of rules? Patents? Traditions?


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Speeddog on January 04, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
~~~SNIP~~~

 Traditions?


Mostly that.

Riders are very much tuned to expect how telescopic forks perform.
And they're essentially conservative.
In reference to the 'rider psyche': http://www.motomatters.com/opinion/2013/01/03/why_price_caps_are_the_best_way_of_cutti.html (http://www.motomatters.com/opinion/2013/01/03/why_price_caps_are_the_best_way_of_cutti.html)
Relevant comments start in paragraph 5.

Britten's front end is a 'Hossack' style, though nobody else, AFAIK, has done one in CF.
More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_fork (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_fork)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Curmudgeon on January 05, 2013, 07:12:12 PM
 [thumbsup]
Riders are very much tuned to expect how telescopic forks perform.
And they're essentially conservative.
Tried quite a few alternate systems myself and can't get on with them. There's a good possibility that decent tubes just give the best feedback on that front contact patch. Note that not even BMW currently races with any of their goofy front ends although that would be good for PR. After all, you won't find an F1 car with FWD or AWD. ;) Some things just work.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Speeddog on January 06, 2013, 08:42:51 AM
I rode this bad boy for about 10 minutes in ~1987.
Felt OK, but didn't push it at all, as repercussions from dropping it would have been severe...

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/morsa03/alt-RADD_MC2.jpg)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: DucHead on January 06, 2013, 09:37:12 AM
I rode this bad boy for about 10 minutes in ~1987.
Felt OK, but didn't push it at all, as repurcussions from dropping it would have been severe...

(http://[url=http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/morsa03/alt-RADD_MC2.jpg]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/morsa03/alt-RADD_MC2.jpg[/url])

 :o :o :o   8)   [beer]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: ducpainter on January 06, 2013, 09:48:25 AM
I rode this bad boy for about 10 minutes in ~1987.
Felt OK, but didn't push it at all, as repurcussions from dropping it would have been severe...

(http://[url=http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/morsa03/alt-RADD_MC2.jpg]http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/morsa03/alt-RADD_MC2.jpg[/url])
Why can't I see it? ???


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Speeddog on January 06, 2013, 12:01:27 PM
Why can't I see it? ???

I think I fixed it.... posted it from my phone, sometimes it doesn't cooperate.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: ducpainter on January 06, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
I think I fixed it.... posted it from my phone, sometimes it doesn't cooperate.
Yup.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: triangleforge on January 09, 2013, 12:01:48 PM
Just up on MCN:

Exclusive: MCN ride the Britten V1000 | First Rides | Motorcyclenews.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MbvMqNAFVY&feature=youtu.be#)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: bigiain on January 09, 2013, 10:51:59 PM
A friend (and a missing-in-action member here):

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5130/5264748548_dc1f7de8e1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigiain/5264748548/)
Lil on the Britten (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigiain/5264748548/#)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: lazylightnin717 on January 10, 2013, 07:17:32 AM
I rode this bad boy for about 10 minutes in ~1987.
Felt OK, but didn't push it at all, as repercussions from dropping it would have been severe...

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/morsa03/alt-RADD_MC2.jpg)

I was 2 years old in '87.

What in tarnation is that?


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Raux on January 10, 2013, 07:49:54 AM
I remember seeing that in the magazines during HS.
RADD MC2
I had to look up the details to refresh my memory. Yamaha 750 based

I was into the Yahama Genesis bikes, can't remember if that was the same time frame.
The Honda Hurricane was another.

The the RADD front end was certainly very cool


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Speeddog on January 10, 2013, 08:50:03 AM
I was 2 years old in '87.

What in tarnation is that?

Here's a more recent prototype, with more pics:
 http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/gsx-radd-hub-center-steered-motorcycle-suspension (http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/gsx-radd-hub-center-steered-motorcycle-suspension)


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: BellissiMoto on January 10, 2013, 04:50:57 PM
Best video I've seen in weeks.

Britten is a hero, an absolute genius. I wish the world didn't lose him, but I am equally disappointed that nobody followed upon his work.

I mean only now do we have the Panigale, which is only 5% as revolutionary as the Britten was 20 years ago.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: zooom on January 11, 2013, 08:26:20 AM
Here's a more recent prototype, with more pics:
 http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/gsx-radd-hub-center-steered-motorcycle-suspension (http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/gsx-radd-hub-center-steered-motorcycle-suspension)

I get this message when I clicky your linky...

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Title: Re: Britten
Post by: fastwin on January 11, 2013, 10:07:36 AM
I remember seeing that in the magazines during HS.
RADD MC2
I had to look up the details to refresh my memory. Yamaha 750 based

I was into the Yahama Genesis bikes, can't remember if that was the same time frame.
The Honda Hurricane was another.

The the RADD front end was certainly very cool

The Yammyhammer G bikes were around '93-'94.

Had two Hurricanes. Both '87s... one 600, the other the 1000.


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Raux on January 11, 2013, 11:18:35 AM
The Yammyhammer G bikes were around '93-'94.

Had two Hurricanes. Both '87s... one 600, the other the 1000.
just looked it up
The Genesis FZR bikes were the 80's as well.
FZR250,400,600,1000
the FZ750 was the basis for the RADD MC2

Thought I remembered it was all about the same timeframe


Title: Re: Britten
Post by: Speeddog on January 11, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
I get this message when I clicky your linky...


That's odd, I get it too, but it worked yesterday.  ???

How about this, pretty much the same info:
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/122_0801_gsx_radd_p3/viewall.html (http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/122_0801_gsx_radd_p3/viewall.html)


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