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i was going over the Haynes book and i dont understand something abt the valve clearance.
whats different btw Checking Clearances and Assembly Clearances ?
is it when the clip of the rocker arm is on and off? im guessing since the measurements are different when the clip is on and when its off. please let me know thank you!
My understanding:
Assembly clearances are what you go for when you're building the motor.
Checking clearances are what is acceptable when doing the valve clearance check.
If they're found to be outside of those checking clearance ranges, then they should be re-set to the assembly clearances.
FWIW....
I don't agree that those checking clearances are reasonable.
2-valve bikes that come in with closer clearances ~0.20mm generally run crappy.
I check and set the clearances with the clips out.
Quote from: Speeddog on January 22, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
My understanding:
Assembly clearances are what you go for when you're building the motor.
Checking clearances are what is acceptable when doing the valve clearance check.
If they're found to be outside of those checking clearance ranges, then they should be re-set to the assembly clearances.
FWIW....
I don't agree that those checking clearances are reasonable.
2-valve bikes that come in with closer clearances ~0.20mm generally run crappy.
I check and set the clearances with the clips out.
sounds good. i ll do that! thank you !
Quote from: Speeddog on January 22, 2013, 06:23:17 PM
FWIW....
I don't agree that those checking clearances are reasonable.
2-valve bikes that come in with closer clearances ~0.20mm generally run crappy.
Are you saying the clearances should be looser than what is listed? If so, why would tight clearances make a bike run crappy?
Thanks,
Dan
correct me if I'm wrong
but IIRC
openers should be towards the upper end of their range.
closers should be closer to the low end of their range.
Quote from: Lieutenant Dan on January 23, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
Are you saying the clearances should be looser than what is listed? If so, why would tight clearances make a bike run crappy?
Thanks,
Dan
Nope, Speeddog is saying that closers should be on the tight end of the allowable spectrum. Once they get out somewhere in the vicinity of the loosest spec they don't hold the valves quite as closed as makes the engine happy.
Quote from: Raux on January 23, 2013, 01:57:57 PM
correct me if I'm wrong
but IIRC
openers should be towards the upper end of their range.
closers should be closer to the low end of their range.
That's how I do mine. Openers tighten over time, closers loosen over time. I think. My brain could be addled by too much work.
Quote from: Dirty Duc on January 23, 2013, 02:02:39 PM
Nope, Speeddog is saying that closers should be on the tight end of the allowable spectrum. Once they get out somewhere in the vicinity of the loosest spec they don't hold the valves quite as closed as makes the engine happy.
Yes, that's what I was meaning.
Quote from: Dirty Duc on January 23, 2013, 02:02:39 PM
That's how I do mine. Openers tighten over time, closers loosen over time. I think. My brain could be addled by too much work.
Yes, that's the case.
A customer recently had a an '05 M620 with ~21k miles on it, trucked in because it wouldn't run.
Exhaust closers were at .009" and .013", and exhaust openers were zero, actually they were holding the exhaust valves open...
It wouldn't start because it didn't have enough compression.