Looking for feedback from other owner's of this model. Is it me or is the rear brake on this model anemic. Please don't tell me that the rear brake is hardly used - not the point. I do use the front brake almost exclusively except when trail braking in the twisties.
The question arises because my stable of old Triumphs. Nortons, and BSAs all have rear brakes that I can lock up at speed. On this 696 it is very hard to lock the rear brake at anything over @ 20 mph. This is my first bike with a rear disc (or any disc for that matter). I thought there would he a huge improvement over my drum brake experience.
I have tried different brake pads to no avail. So, is everyone else's experience with this anemic rear brake different than mine?
My impression is the anemicity of the rear brake is standard for Ducs... all of them.
Probably because of the significant engine braking effect of the (relatively) high compression twin.
If u want a little more grip on the eear change pads
put in general the lighter feel helps with trail braking and speep adjuatment with less concern for lockup in my riding
i starting in the dirt so i use the rear a lot. i just use it differently tham the front
the the city i cover it as i can adjust speeds more without the on off throttle brake of the the front
The rear brake is pretty hard to lock, but it will if all is good. Do make sure it is well bled. Part of what makes it difficult is the size of the pedal and the pedal/peg relationship. The angle makes it hard to apply pressure. IMO, not a bad thing since most of the braking is done with the front at speed and accidental rear lock up is not desirable. My Buddie's BMW has a stronger rear brake. More weight in the back and more likely to carry a psaaenger. The other is, contrary to popular belief, drum brakes actually are more aggressive than disc brakes due to self servo action. On a drum brake the leading shoe will try and wedge into the drum, increasing stopping power and causing lock up. Often, on a bike, both shoes are leading. The advantages of a disc brake are no mechanical fade, self wiping in the wet and lower weight.
I hear you Howie. As good as the dual discs are on my 696, I have the huge Fontana 250mm 4 leading shoe drum brake on my NorStar Special and it is the equal of the dual discs. That Fontana almost fills the rim space with spokes that are only @ 2" long.
(One wheel I definitely did not want to spoke myself.)
Photos please [drool]
I have looked in help and search and can not find instructions on how to post photos and / or files here. Detailed help please.
Quote from: alibaba on February 02, 2013, 09:21:34 PM
I have looked in help and search and can not find instructions on how to post photos and / or files here. Detailed help please.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0)
Thanks Howie - I hope this works ......
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Sorry all - posting did not work. I will have to find a way to direct you to my new Photobucket account so you can view there.
on the right of the picture, click on the IMG code, use that
Quote from: alibaba on February 03, 2013, 08:51:05 AM
Thanks Howie - I hope this works ......
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Rightside1_zps9f1cddb9.jpg)
(http://s1294.beta.photobucket.com/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside1_zps58935291.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1#/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside1_zps58935291.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1&_suid=135990979295309217214143302457)
(http://s1294.beta.photobucket.com/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake1_zps0e5e07c0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=6#/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake1_zps0e5e07c0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=6&_suid=1359909566250039102869337231954)
(http://s1294.beta.photobucket.com/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake2_zpsd741a577.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5#/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake2_zpsd741a577.jpg.html?sort=3&o=5&_suid=13599096586090481088412165926)
(http://s1294.beta.photobucket.com/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/Crank_zps07b88294.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4#/user/troutmalt/media/NorStar/Crank_zps07b88294.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4&_suid=135990985921803530868437590506)
Quote from: alibaba on February 03, 2013, 11:10:52 AM
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just click on the link to the right of your picture that says "IMG Code"
it will said code copied
then past it directly into your message. don't do anything else
then post the message
Thanks Raux - let us hope this works - i was pasting in between the (//)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside1_zps58935291.jpg (http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside1_zps58935291.jpg)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake2_zpsd741a577.jpg (http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake2_zpsd741a577.jpg)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/Crank_zps07b88294.jpg (http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/Crank_zps07b88294.jpg)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Rightside2_zpsca575201.jpg (http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Rightside2_zpsca575201.jpg)
http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside2_zpsc5673510.jpg (http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside2_zpsc5673510.jpg)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Leftside1_zps58935291.jpg)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/Fontanafrontbrake2_zpsd741a577.jpg)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/Crank_zps07b88294.jpg)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b602/troutmalt/NorStar/9-30-04Rightside2_zpsca575201.jpg)
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Oh my ;D