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Title: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on February 07, 2013, 04:44:09 PM Never being too fond of the stock headlight, I wanted a replacement that was more industrial and technical. The stocker is just too "cartoonish" for my taste. It had to look trick yet be functional and aggressive at the same time, and it had to be LED. This is what I came up with...
(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03205_zps29d122fa.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03223_zpsd8fcb43a.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03196_zps982538de.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03226_zps2cd7b56c.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03209_zpsadd01a1b.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03193_zps6125f3fe.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03178_zps1834dd11.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03177_zps8f50e551.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03202_zps8eee4358.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03198_zps0a7d8f98.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03216_zpse7f44ccd.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03217_zps334d2b21.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03237_zps86e2ed5d.jpg) The technical stuff... The headlight itself is an impressive piece of kit. It's a Rigid Industries Dually D2 and is usually found on off road vehicles, boats, and ATVs. I can tell you it's bright as hell! It makes HIDs look washed out and dim in comparison. Its rated to 2600 lumens @ 28 watts in a 1lb package. 6 high powered LEDs at only 1.9A make it all happen. They actually just released a 36W 3030 lumen version...whoa! Compare that to 1200-1500 lumens at 55W for our stocker. No bulky ballasts, igniters, or wiring to hide as well = compact and clean. The housing is extruded aluminum and is basically a large heatsink. I hooked up the LED with an OEM harness connector (thanks Eastern Beaver!) so the whole thing is plug n play with no cutting or splicing of the factory harness required. Matte white to match the bikes colorway and to contrast with the carbon :) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/IMG_20121026_230819_zpsa06624a9.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DuallyD2specs_zpsef96360a.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/IMG_20121104_152650_zpse7d9d988.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/IMG_20121102_171849_zps4fa402cf.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC02553_zps704bc093.jpg) Originally ordered a black version and did a quick mock up... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/IMG_20121002_130327_zps11923348.jpg) The mounting would not be possible without this trick CNC bracket from Crime Scene Choppers (http://www.crimescenechoppers.com/ (http://www.crimescenechoppers.com/)) Yes, a "chopper" shop made this! Based on my measurements and diagrams they CNCd me a prototype that fit perfect the first time. It mounts on the factory tabs on the lower triple and can fit just about any compact headlight that has a mounting point on the bottom. This is much more ideal IMO than the ghetto fork strap mounts that are widely used. I designed the bracket so the headlight would be recessed in the forks as much as possible to avoid that "buck tooth" look of the headlight sticking too far out. I can't say enough about Crime Scene, they were a pleasure to work with and said they would be willing to make more if there is a demand. They made two of these so I know they at least have 1 left... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC02516_zpsf5bda1db.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC02533_zpsd40bc875.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC02538_zps260508fa.jpg) the mess before the wire cleanup... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC02526_zps05e9f97f.jpg) Note: I am only running a single LED headlight, not a low/high beam arrangement. The LED is so bright it is like running a high beam at all times. It took some careful adjustment to aim the headlight as to not blind oncoming traffic but still be high enough to project far enough down the road. This LED is not DOT approved. The mounting bracket I designed is capable of running 2 of these D2 LEDs stacked, but it would lumen overkill in my opinion. I almost went with a LED lightbar from Rigid instead but settled on the more compact D2. Another option is to wire the light to power on at say 70% for low beam, 100% for high beam if you MUSt have high/low. Again, I didn't bother with this and I am pleased with the results. Since the LED is wired to the high beam wires my indicator is lit all the time but I can selectively turn the headlight off now with the high beam switch and run "stealth" if I feel the need :) Oncoming point of view compared to my Navigator with OEM HID with 6K bulbs... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC02607_zps426b4100.jpg) Off center oncoming comparison between our Leaf (OEM LED low beams) and the wifes SRX (OEM HID). As you can see, the D2 is incredibly intense. Pictures dont really do it justice, you have to see it in person to believe all this light comes from this tiny cube... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03133_zps8f12c575.jpg) Not the best pictures but you can at least see the razor sharp cutoff and beam pattern. These are the "Driving Beam" versions FYI... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/20130120_201119_zps2c980649.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/20130120_201254_zpsd5ab15b9.jpg) Other mods... As you may have noticed, there is plenty of carbon fiber on the bike. In addition to the fork shrouds, the LED headlight "winglets" as I call them are simply there to add some style to the package. I angled them to match the line of the cluster and forks and give everything a more raked, aggressive look. I actually got the idea from the rear stabilizers on RC helicopters lol. Removing the OEM headlight meant I no longer had a way to mount the instrument cluster and turn signals. Oberon LED bar end indicators solved one problem. For the cluster, I fabricated custom aluminum brackets to bring the assembly down as much as possible providing for a much cleaner profile. The shrouds extend to the rear monotube as well :) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03196_zps982538de.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03256_zpse74c0fa0.jpg) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03251_zps67fce035.jpg) Excuse the lack of exhaust...NO I don't ride like that normally! I am right in the middle of my exhaust project...stay tuned! Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Ohmic on February 07, 2013, 05:13:05 PM Very nicely executed [thumbsup]
You might want to have someone ride your bike at night and you lead in a car to make sure the intensity is not blinding from the rear view mirror. Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: joshuajcrouch on February 07, 2013, 07:20:31 PM Not my style... but damn impressive! Nice job thinking outside the box. I can tell you put a lot of effort into the planning.
I actually think the black housing would look better on the headlight. Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Heath on February 07, 2013, 08:13:19 PM Any pictures of it at night shooting against a wall to see the cut off?
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Anchorism on February 08, 2013, 01:04:48 AM Not exactly what i would do to my bike but I do like it!! Very sharp and unique. Nice looking bike you got there. Got a few features that im waiting to do to mine.
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: JohnEE on February 08, 2013, 04:48:12 AM My main critique with the new monsters is the head light. It just looks wrong IMO. You have definitely come up with a unique solution! Looks great. Great Job on the mounting.
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: ajw85 on February 08, 2013, 04:55:09 AM Awesome, nice work.
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: memper on February 08, 2013, 05:30:01 AM I like it a lot. However I would cut off the corner tips on the front of your carbon mounts.
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: xsephirot on February 08, 2013, 06:24:56 AM [thumbsup] Great job! I liked how you did everything so clean and to the way you wanted. I'm still trying to figure out a way for me to fit brighter headlights for my S2R. Was trying to decide between HIDs or the trucklite LED and now you may have convinced me to look into these. Though I'm not sure I could do as clean as a job as you did.
Is the headlight just mounted on 1 point on your custom designed bracket or is it also mounted to the 2 carbon fiber winglets? I'm wondering if theroetically I can mount 2 of these side by side using the original U bracket. Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Bishamon on February 08, 2013, 07:33:18 AM Awesome!
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Slide Panda on February 08, 2013, 11:27:55 AM I can dig it.
Did you make the carbon parts? Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Gossamer_in_FLL on February 09, 2013, 08:01:14 AM [clap] [clap] [clap]
PHENOMENAL!! You know the old adage "imitation is the best form of flattery"?? I'm about to half compliment you (l'll make my own version of your winglets thankyouverymuch). This is exactly what I was looking for. Hopefully I can lean on you for some help through the process. Great job! Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: greenohawk69 on February 12, 2013, 05:30:13 AM Very nice. You forgot to add what it cost. ;D
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: greenohawk69 on February 12, 2013, 05:51:33 AM I have a '97 M900...and have been looking at upgrading the light and am very interested in the work you did. The bracket from Crime Scene Choppers...are you aware if it would fit my year / model bike? Might need some measurements. Also, you mentioned...Beaver... [laugh], I digress, can you show this OEM adapter you mentioned.
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: SpikeC on February 12, 2013, 04:42:39 PM What a cool installation! As I am a confirmed Luddite, I would install that unit inside of a 36 Ford spotlight bucket! I do dislike the headlight that comes on the monsters and have been thinking of alternatives, this opens up a whole new realm of possibilities!
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Gossamer_in_FLL on February 12, 2013, 05:00:27 PM Very nice. You forgot to add what it cost. ;D The LED light is $200 and the bracket is listed for $45, according to each website Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: graydo on February 13, 2013, 10:02:41 AM I think the bike looks great, the whole combination comes together... very well done.
[clap] [clap] [clap] Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: nmaino on February 14, 2013, 06:15:06 AM Clean looking . . . nice job!
Man I miss San Diego! Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on February 14, 2013, 10:31:58 AM Any pictures of it at night shooting against a wall to see the cut off? This is the best I have. Output is concentrated around a central oval within a larger circular pattern. (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03283_zps6120d7b5.jpg) [thumbsup] Great job! I liked how you did everything so clean and to the way you wanted. I'm still trying to figure out a way for me to fit brighter headlights for my S2R. Was trying to decide between HIDs or the trucklite LED and now you may have convinced me to look into these. Though I'm not sure I could do as clean as a job as you did. Is the headlight just mounted on 1 point on your custom designed bracket or is it also mounted to the 2 carbon fiber winglets? I'm wondering if theroetically I can mount 2 of these side by side using the original U bracket. The headlight is mounted with just the 1 point (M8 bolt). The carbon winglets are only cosmetic, they provide no structural support. I can dig it. Did you make the carbon parts? Not from scratch no, I simply cut, formed, sanded, and shaped from CF sheet stock. The LED light is $200 and the bracket is listed for $45, according to each website The headlight retails for $200. I paid Crime Scene $90 for the bracket. The $45 one is for a Harley or something and is what I modeled mine after. We designed several changes to it to make it work for the Monster so they made a custom CNC program for it --- hence the extra cost. My mount is wider eye to eye, has standoffs built in, different lightening holes, and a slot for the mounting point for versatility compared to the Harley one, and of course the black crinkle coat. So here is the approx. project breakdown... $200 LED $90 bracket $25 Harness stuff from Eastern Beaver $50 (carbon fiber - optional) $5 misc hardware - bolts, nuts, washers ...BUT considering I sold my stock headlight assembly on eBay for $450...I got paid to do this!!! [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: monsta on February 14, 2013, 04:12:04 PM impressive! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: memper on February 14, 2013, 04:25:58 PM Damn. Is that what newer Duc headlights go for? How much from a dealer??
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on February 15, 2013, 11:12:37 PM What a cool installation! As I am a confirmed Luddite, I would install that unit inside of a 36 Ford spotlight bucket! I do dislike the headlight that comes on the monsters and have been thinking of alternatives, this opens up a whole new realm of possibilities! Since your considering headlight alternatives, this may keep the creative juices flowing... Here are a couple of the runner ups I considered before settling on the Rigid D2: Not LED, but the HID is fully self contained and has LED running lights - http://www.gorecon.com/product.php?pk=505&pname=Part-2646HIDBK-6-Round-6250K-HID-Driving-Light-w-6250K-LED-Daytime-Running-Lights-SMOKED&p_cat=123 (http://www.gorecon.com/product.php?pk=505&pname=Part-2646HIDBK-6-Round-6250K-HID-Driving-Light-w-6250K-LED-Daytime-Running-Lights-SMOKED&p_cat=123) Full LED - http://www.gorecon.com/product.php?pk=429&pname=Part-264501BK-LED-Round-Driving-Light-Kit-w-Black-Chrome-Internal-Housing (http://www.gorecon.com/product.php?pk=429&pname=Part-264501BK-LED-Round-Driving-Light-Kit-w-Black-Chrome-Internal-Housing) Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Gossamer_in_FLL on May 07, 2013, 11:00:20 AM Stormtrooper...could you give us an update on how the headlight / electronics are running since you made the swap??
I'm starting to explore the change on my own bike but one local Ducati shop owner recommended that I don't fiddle with the electronics since the computer can tell if there is less draw from the headlight and possibly shut down parts of the electrical system because it thinks there's something wrong. What say you?? Thanks. Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: DexterMorgan on May 07, 2013, 07:08:06 PM I just looked through the pics of your bike in the original post. What an awesome job you have done so far. Totally badass. [beer]
Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on May 09, 2013, 08:02:40 AM Stormtrooper...could you give us an update on how the headlight / electronics are running since you made the swap?? I'm starting to explore the change on my own bike but one local Ducati shop owner recommended that I don't fiddle with the electronics since the computer can tell if there is less draw from the headlight and possibly shut down parts of the electrical system because it thinks there's something wrong. What say you?? Thanks. The LED headlight has been bulletproof; zero issues to speak of. Every incandescent bulb on this bike has been converted to LED which equates to considerable less amperage and draw on the battery. The bike turns over and starts up noticeable quicker now and the reduced strain on the battery can only serve to extend its life. There has been no detriment to the bikes electrical management. I just looked through the pics of your bike in the original post. What an awesome job you have done so far. Totally badass. [beer] Gratzi [thumbsup] Title: Re: Let there be light! M796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Gossamer_in_FLL on May 09, 2013, 12:42:17 PM The LED headlight has been bulletproof; zero issues to speak of. Every incandescent bulb on this bike has been converted to LED which equates to considerable less amperage and draw on the battery. The bike turns over and starts up noticeable quicker now and the reduced strain on the battery can only serve to extend its life. There has been no detriment to the bikes electrical management. That's GREAT news!! I'm going to be all over this project soon. Do you have contact info for the guys that did the bracket and the wiring? I'm going to use the same light but do a different housing / bracket combo. I'll make sure and post some pics when I do it. Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Rowdy on May 09, 2013, 06:51:49 PM Cool
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: awax1969 on May 10, 2013, 03:37:02 AM Beautiful.. I am working on a similar project but for a dual vertical headlights. Do you think the guys at crimeseenchoppers can offer the clamps/brackets?
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on May 10, 2013, 07:39:49 AM Beautiful.. I am working on a similar project but for a dual vertical headlights. Do you think the guys at crimeseenchoppers can offer the clamps/brackets? Crimescene can make just about anything but for your vert headlight setup check my response to your other thread. Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project THE REMIX <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on June 22, 2013, 03:39:19 PM Just a little update here...
I swapped the white D2 LED headlight out for a newer black Q2. The single row design is sleeker plus this one throws even more light...3030 lumens! A quick video in daylight... Rigid SR-Q2 LED on Ducati Monster 796 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwmsM9RzSNU#) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03615_zps3c04a6f2.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03615_zps3c04a6f2.jpg.html) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03640_zpsee0b18be.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03640_zpsee0b18be.jpg.html) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03638_zps451a544f.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03638_zps451a544f.jpg.html) Rigid offers these covers in a variety of colors. I opted for the 'smoked' one... (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03647_zpsa171d908.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03647_zpsa171d908.jpg.html) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03689_zps644045a8.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03689_zps644045a8.jpg.html) The cluster had to be dropped another 2" to make this setup look right. Hows this for low? (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03630_zpscd788653.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03630_zpscd788653.jpg.html) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/DSC03623_zps8016f350.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/DSC03623_zps8016f350.jpg.html) (http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n206/jmlenz/20130621_231546_zps72ecd92b.jpg) (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/jmlenz/media/20130621_231546_zps72ecd92b.jpg.html) Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: suzyj on June 22, 2013, 03:53:01 PM Isn't there supposed to be a sharp cutout in that light pattern so you don't blind oncoming drivers?
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: kuzemko on June 23, 2013, 12:20:49 PM Loving the black Q2. Never really disliked the stock monster light, but I really like that more. Gonna have to add that to my "some day" list. Nicely done.
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: duc996 on June 24, 2013, 04:51:20 AM Well done indeed, and it looks really bright. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Anchorism on June 29, 2013, 01:33:00 PM Hey storm trooper.... found a nice addition to your bike lol. (http://www.duckshop.de/out/pictures/1/img_5919.jpg)
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Bishamon on June 30, 2013, 03:52:15 AM Hey storm trooper.... found a nice addition to your bike lol. (http://www.duckshop.de/out/pictures/1/img_5919.jpg) [clap] Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on July 01, 2013, 08:22:09 PM ^^^ Thanks Anchorism :P
that is a badazz rubber ducky though Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Skybarney on July 03, 2013, 07:55:54 AM Hey Storm, Took aminute but I found one of those cool pond troopers at this link. http://rubberduckie.net.au/products/pondtrooper (http://rubberduckie.net.au/products/pondtrooper) If it floats your boat you should grab it quick. Seems they are quite collectable and out of stock in most places.
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: danaid on July 03, 2013, 09:25:28 AM [clap] the new light looks even better than the old. great find, your bike looks bad-ass!
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: s2rsoon on October 17, 2013, 10:40:11 AM What pieces did you get to build the harness?
Did you do a H1 conversion to the SR Q2 connector? Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Stormtrooper on October 22, 2013, 09:05:34 AM I responded to your post on the other forum
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: jonzanoff on March 03, 2014, 03:04:46 PM Great post and nice job. Did you need to use any vibration dampening for your instrument panel mounts?
Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: SDRider on March 04, 2014, 10:52:56 AM Very cool! I like it.
Nice looking bike. Title: Re: Let there be light! 796 LED headlight project <pics> Post by: Hellas-26 on July 14, 2015, 08:10:48 AM is it real carbon fiber on your fork or it vinyl?
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