Ducati Monster Forum

I realize this is a Monster board,, but wondering if you guys had any advice. I've been tracking my S2R-1000 and while it's a lot of fun it's not an ideal track bike and would cost a substantial amount of money to get it better. I've been offered a 2005 ZX6R-636 for $4,150

2005 ZX6R-636, race bodywork, AK-20 forks, Penske shock, s/s lines front, Yosh exhaust, Powercommander, custom dyno tune with 115 rear wheel horsepower, Vortex rear sets, gas cap, GP steering damper. 

Included in the price is front and rear stands and set of tire warmers.

Bike looks clean, although it does bear some signs of low siding, and it's a typical track bike in that the paint job looks mostly rattle can black, but I'm not in it for the looks, just something that will get a round a track a bit better.

Any thoughts or opinions?

Not a lot of experience on prices on those, but it sounds high to me. I might be wrong.

It will definitely be better on the track than your Monster.

Maybe a bit high, but doesn't sound too bad to me, given the extras and assuming it is in decent overall shape and runs strong. For reference, here is a race-prepped 2005 ZX-6R for $5,500.
http://www.wmrra.com/forums/showthread.php?15849-2005-ZX6R-built-by-SpeedDealer-Motors (http://www.wmrra.com/forums/showthread.php?15849-2005-ZX6R-built-by-SpeedDealer-Motors)

Maybe try to get him to knock a couple hundred off to get it below $4K? Should be a good track bike.

Well it's not as pretty as the one you listed, but there again not too worried about the looks. The AK-20 forks and Penske shock were both done by the local suspension guru in San Antonio, so they should be good to go. The bike was originally offered for $4,500, but he said he would let me have it for $4,000, but would throw in the stands and tire warmers for $4,150. Maybe I can get him to come down a bit more :)

given all the goodies the prices sounds good or thereabouts.  if it were 2006 or 7 it would be an easy call.

Just have to decide if not getting the bike is worth $150.  :) I'd probably just get it if I wanted it...but that's me.

walk up with $4K in cash....put it in his hand....tell him that is what you are offering now for the whole kit and kaboodle and then shut up....the 1st one to speak loses the $150....

Sounds reasonably priced. Not a bargain, but not way high either. And you'll be amazed how much your riding will improve when you can focus on form and markers instead of trying to ride around the bike's limitations. I'd say go ahead if it runs well.

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Where are you? Are you partial to any brand/model?

I've found a few R6s for killer deals around SoCal on WERA. Always kicking myself for putting so much money into mine to build it "my way" from a street bike (bought it for $4400 a little roughed up). I think I'd easily have $10k or so all said and done when you can find basically the same thing with an ex-racebike for $5-6k. Condition unknown of course, but still...

Anyways, if I had to do it all over again, I would definitely do an ex-racebike. I would spend $5-6k on something good and fairly current, another $1k to refresh the suspension and engine (if needed) and repaint the damn thing. Done.

The 1st rule of building a race bike is to never add up how much you've put into it!  [laugh] [thumbsup]

+1 on buying an ex-race bike...you can get some screaming deals, and a lot of the time race bikes have been taken better care of than street bikes (excluding cosmetic damage from them being tossed down the track a couple times). Might be slim pickings now though...the end of a season is usually the best time to pick one p, not the beginning.

Hahahaha. So true. I definitely rounded down and uh, accidentally left off cost of paint and old fairings that uh, haven't survived. Thankfully Woodcraft sliders have replaceable pucks that are cheap. Haha!

*sigh*

Well this is an ex-race bike bought off the CMRA board. I pulled the trigger and hope I don't regret doing so. Will find out Monday when I take it to the track   [Dolph]

(http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/SA_S2R/ZXR6-636.jpg)

Very cool!  [thumbsup]

I think you should race the CubCadet instead!...it does have a cupholder afterall!

Don't give me any ideas  [evil]

Sooo... picked the bike up but he didn't have the warmers or stands with him. Ok no problem, I can make do and just swap out the slicks for some Q2's. Swapped the rear with no problem, went to do the front and one of the brake caliper hex key bolts rounds off on me  [bang]. WTF am I going to do with trackday next morning, no time to take it to a shop and I didn't really want to operate on my new bike, and worse make it totally unrideable. I take the other caliper off and it looks like I can get the wheel off with one caliper still on there. yep its a squeeze but it comes off. Change out the slick for the new Q2 and now to squeeze the wheel back in, its frikikin hard trying to keep the wheel spacers on both sides from falling out, while trying to not only squeeze the wheel back in but also hold four brake pads apart while trying to get the damn rotor in between them, and then keep all those parts steady while I line axle up, it really helps to have four hands to do this. Tada, I feel great at accomplishing the juggling feet until I realize I forgot to balance the bloody wheel  [bang] Grrrr - take it back apart, balance it and then go through the juggling routine again to get the wheel back on. Phew, track day is saved!

Give the bike a once over, and decided to load the bike up. Put the ramps down and all of a sudden the Youtube Bike Loading Fail compilation runs through my mind, I swear the width of those ramps shrank by 50% as I looked at them. make the beast with two backs it, gun the engine and head for the pickup, line looks good, entry speed is good, I glance down and see the front wheel perilously close to the edge of the ramp, heart rate goes to max, arsehole goes full pucker and before I can scream like a little girl I'm up in the back of the pickup. I even managed to stop without crashing into the cab. Hit the kill switch, wiped my brow and tried to look like everything was in control in case the neighbours were watching. Over the next 60 seconds my arsehole graduating relaxes from full pucker mode to something resembling normal, and my heart rate slowly recedes as well.

Monday morning I'm heading up to the track, when all of a sudden WTF is that on the windshield, is that rain?  [bang] Noooo! I press on in the belief that even weathermen are right once in a while, and I am duly rewarded in a short while with clearing skies. Pulling in to the track it looks like it is going to be a great day.
So I put the ramps down and back the bike down and again the front wheel comes way closer than I would like to the edge of the ramp. That  does it, note to self, get  W I D E R ramps, because apparently after you turn 50 your coordination goes to shit.

Finally, the time comes and out on the track go. It's a new bike to me and it's been a hell of  along time since I rode a crotch rocket and the riding position feels totally strange after riding the Monster. Oh well, need to scrub the new Q2's in anyway so take it easy for a few laps and do my best impression of a little kid riding a 50cc round the track for the first time. Ok so the riding position is feeling better, lets step it up a notch so as I head up the straight and give it some gas. Not a lot happens except for the bike getting noisier, it really struggles to pull and acceleration is pretty non existent. Make the rest of the lap and things are no better, crap I just bought a bike with a blown motor. I'm starting to get really pissed, when all of a sudden I remember to look at the tach. Having got used to Monster I was shifting by the sound of the engine, which was about 8,000 rpm. Heading up the straight I drop a gear and open the throttle, it gets noisier and noisier and sounds like it is going to explode when all of a sudden it hits the power band and its just starts screaming and pulling hard.... here we go  [Dolph]

After a few more laps getting used to the motor and brakes, I start cleaning up my corners and all of a sudden I realize how much more fun it is to ride a bike with AK-20 forks and a Penske shock. The bumps are still there, but the bike is not getting upset, I'm not trying to hang on for dear life and I'm getting around the track a lot quicker that I used to. Unbelievable how much confidence it gives you, especially on the track I ride which people regularly complain about being bumpy. 

I rode almost twice as many laps on this bike as I normally do on the Monster, it was just that much more pleasant to ride and didn't beat you to death. Maybe one day I'll look at doing a Duc track bike, but for now I'm just loving this 636 and keep the Monster for the street.

Now let's see... where did I see that ad for extra wide loading ramps...

Cool!  [thumbsup]

1st time I rode my buddies R6 (after always riding Ducs), I kept shifting at 11K or so...sounded like it was going to blow up to me.  He was just shaking his head when I came in.  [laugh]

When I got my Duc back (briefly), I kept bouncing it off the rev limiter since by then I was comfortable with the I-4.  [cheeky]

sooner or later you start to love the sound of 14k  :)

Also forgot to mention the couple times I forgot it was GP shift, nothing like downshifting when you think you're upshifting  :o

That's why I have a sticker on my airbox: "GP SHIFT DICKHEAD!!!"

I'll add Dickhead to the sticker that was already there - doh [bang]

i heart gp shift everywhere


(when i had a street bike, that is)