I need the DMF's help to shut down an Ebay thief
There is a seller on ebay that is listing moto parts (from my website and others), taking payment via Paypal, and then using stolen credit cards to order/ship from resellers (once again mine and others).
example- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oberon-Racing-Style-Dry-Clutch-Plate-Ducati-Black-Gold-Red-Silver-/230918973276?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5522348148820529389%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230918973276%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oberon-Racing-Style-Dry-Clutch-Plate-Ducati-Black-Gold-Red-Silver-/230918973276?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D5522348148820529389%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230918973276%26)
that is even a pic of the part on my bike. [roll]
there are several different user accounts, but they are all
-really low priced
-free shipping
-seller in netherlands
I contacted ebay, but they don't seem to be doing much about it.
So if you could...as you are on ebay...keep an eye out for these items and flag when you see one.
Maybe he'll get frustrated and start selling stolen Justin Beber collectibles instead
also- if any sponsors would like to know what to look for on the back end to spot the fraud orders...give me a ring, i would be glad to share
thanks in advance for the help
Jeff H
MonsterParts.com
888-339-7025
I only buy stuff from you Jeff ... [thumbsup] [bow_down]
Isabelle :)
Buy from thief.
Thief buys from Jeff.
Thief sells cheaper to us.
Bank covers loss.
Win win.
;D
Quote from: stopintime on February 11, 2013, 05:07:46 PM
Buy from thief.
Thief buys steals from Jeff.
Thief sells cheaper to us.
Bank covers loss...maybe
Win win.
online retailer loses
;D
Fixed ;D
Bummer. I will keep an eye out, though am not a big ebay buyer. Like ducatigirl, I get my parts from you direct (just received my clutch/slider package today, in fact, so thanks.)
If there is anything else we can do to help, let us know.
But he has 100% feedback :-X
Sent them a note on the ask seller a question thingy.
"Hey, are you buying stuff from other sellers on a stolen credit card then selling the stuff on? I don't think the original seller is very happy."
I filed a report with ebay on that item citing the following of the available options:
Report Category: "listing practices"
Reason for Report: "fraudulent listing activities"
Detailed Reason: "suspect that a Listing is fraudulent"
If enough of us file the same report, maybe ebay will send Jeff's thief on his way.
"BRANDNEW SEALED 99%," ???
I don't understand the point if he's buying at full price and then reselling for less. What am I missing?
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 12, 2013, 02:55:55 AM
I don't understand the point if he's buying at full price and then reselling for less. What am I missing?
He's not buying with his own money.
The cards are stolen.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 12, 2013, 03:00:56 AM
He's not buying with his own money.
The cards are stolen.
Sort of like laundering?
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 12, 2013, 03:05:19 AM
Sort of like laundering?
1) Thief steals your credit card details.
2) Thief lists goods he doesnt yet have on ebay for less than the going rate, for a nice quick sale.
C) Thief steals from Jeff by ordering goods using your stolen credit card to be shipped to ebay buyer. (You file an unauthorised purchase report with your bank, Jeff gets slugged with a chargeback, now he doesnt have the goods or the money).
4) Thief pockets the ebay sale $$
Quote from: ducpainter on February 12, 2013, 03:24:48 AM
Exactly like stealing. ;)
Got it.
This business model seems familiar. Can't put my finger on it exactly, but i've seen it before.
The customer that contacted me about this said he also had packages sent to him from Motosport and Sprocket Specialties.
So he's buying stealing from other online resellers as well.
i noticed some DP jackets too, so i called a couple of the big online dealers (proitalia, commoto, etc) to give them a heads-up as well.
We didnt get any over the weekend...so i thought they might be done....but one just came in.
IP addresses trace all over the US, so that is no help
thanks for your help, ya'll [Dolph]
my credit cards immediately identify fraud and don't authorize the charge. then i get a phone call. how is this guy getting away with this?
Quote from: justinrhenry on February 12, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
my credit cards immediately identify fraud and don't authorize the charge. then i get a phone call. how is this guy getting away with this?
There are entire groups within criminal organizations which are dedicated to mapping out bank security processes with databases full of stolen credit card numbers to try them against. The first few digits of your credit card number will identify the card issuer and the bank who issued the credit card to you, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_card_number) which allows them to define the security practices of individual banking organizations. Dedicated criminal organizations will try buying things and see what it takes for the card to finally get shut down. I know from my experience that I can take my card internationally without any notice and that isn't enough to trigger the fraud alerts, but if I buy a dozen apps on the Google market and then renew a domain name for 10 years that that will trigger a fraud alert.
Quote from: justinrhenry on February 12, 2013, 05:17:43 PM
my credit cards immediately identify fraud and don't authorize the charge. then i get a phone call. how is this guy getting away with this?
Yep, hotel bill in Arizona questioned, but not plane tickets to various points is Eastern Europe. Don't count on it.