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Title: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 14, 2013, 02:39:33 PM
Roads west of Melbourne are ROUGH and the M696 suspension is hard.  Any tips on tweaking the front and rear?  It'd be nice to a) not have to stand on the pegs for rough stretches, and b) not freak out when the road surface on a tight bend is rippled as the bike bucks.
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: stopintime on February 14, 2013, 03:19:28 PM
The suspension feels like that because it's being used out of it's natural ability.
You can spend any amount you like and have better suspension, but it will 'always' be a compromise.

One set up will perform well on smooth roads, medium well on the track and poor on rough roads.
Another set up will be perfect for your rough roads, but less than ideal on anything else.

I've been happy with my priority towards track use - even if that means I need to live with little comfort on rough roads. Your priorities may be very different...

My opinion is that it's smart to spend some time to sort out the priorities and then decide if it's worth it to modify the suspension in that direction.
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 14, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
Fair comment, thanks.  It may well be time to get it setup by a professional for my weight and riding style.
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: alibaba on February 14, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
I don't know how many miles you have on your bike.  On my 696, I felt that the suspension was quite harsh when new but after some miles it settled in to a reasonable compromise for the riding I do. 
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Raux on February 14, 2013, 10:03:04 PM
I've backed off my rear suspension rebound quite a lot, 3 from the left.
stock front, not much you can do without tearing them apart or replacement.

but yes, get someone to help set it up for you
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: koko64 on February 14, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
Call David at Kroozetune 9801 2122. Thats who I use. (I get no kickbacks just a good local guy).
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 15, 2013, 02:11:59 AM
Quote from: alibaba on February 14, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
I don't know how many miles you have on your bike.  On my 696, I felt that the suspension was quite harsh when new but after some miles it settled in to a reasonable compromise for the riding I do. 
16000km on a 2009 model.  Appreciate all comments. You've confirmed what I had suspected!  Suspension is an individual thing and should be individualized to suit! 
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 15, 2013, 02:15:51 AM
16000km on a 2009 model.  First owner: man puts on 9500km in 3 years.  Second owner (me): 6500km in 9 months.   ;D
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 15, 2013, 02:20:04 AM
Quote from: koko64 on February 14, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
Call David at Kroozetune 9801 2122. Thats who I use. (I get no kickbacks just a good local guy).
Awesome. Thanks for the headsup!   :)
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 15, 2013, 02:22:19 AM
Quote from: Raux on February 14, 2013, 10:03:04 PM
I've backed off my rear suspension rebound quite a lot, 3 from the left.
stock front, not much you can do without tearing them apart or replacement.

but yes, get someone to help set it up for you
Crikey.  Have you got a photo of yours?
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Raux on February 15, 2013, 02:46:53 AM
Quote from: Jules on February 15, 2013, 02:22:19 AM
Crikey.  Have you got a photo of yours?
the setting for the preload is stock
just the screw adjustment at the top of the shock is adjusted.
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Slide Panda on February 15, 2013, 01:44:01 PM
At that age, you're due up for a fork service at least - and might do for a shock service as well. If you're doing new springs, they will already be into the forks and *should* replace the oil as part of that - so you should be set there. One can change out a shock spring without effecting the oil etc. But a new batch of oil and a new shot of nitro never hurt a shock and won't cost much more.
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Jules on February 15, 2013, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: Slide Panda on February 15, 2013, 01:44:01 PM
At that age, you're due up for a fork service at least - and might do for a shock service as well. If you're doing new springs, they will already be into the forks and *should* replace the oil as part of that - so you should be set there. One can change out a shock spring without effecting the oil etc. But a new batch of oil and a new shot of nitro never hurt a shock and won't cost much more.
Read your post about that elsewhere.  Something to include in the service plan this year.  J
Title: Re: Monster 696 suspension tweaking??
Post by: Slide Panda on February 16, 2013, 05:53:30 AM
Worse than this is lurking in your forks

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/75028_10151222140683843_702492087_n.jpg)