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Title: Preziosi resigns
Post by: ducpainter on February 28, 2013, 12:50:39 PM
http://www.racer.com/preziosi-resigns-from-ducati/article/282370/ (http://www.racer.com/preziosi-resigns-from-ducati/article/282370/)

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"Engineer Filippo Preziosi has communicated his intention to resign from his position at Ducati Motor Holding," a statement by the company read. "Declaring reasons of poor health related to his particular physical condition, Preziosi's resignation was accepted by Ducati, saddened and disappointed to lose such an accomplished and strategic member of staff.


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: Raux on February 28, 2013, 02:04:00 PM
this may have been planned all along so he leaves with some dignity


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: duccarlos on February 28, 2013, 03:22:27 PM
this may have been planned all along so he leaves with some dignity

Surprised you're not doing backflips.


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: ducpainter on February 28, 2013, 03:24:59 PM
Surprised you're not doing backflips.
He's pissed off because he can't use the cross he built.


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: swampduc on February 28, 2013, 04:02:10 PM
He's pissed off because he can't use the cross he built.
[laugh]  [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: Raux on February 28, 2013, 10:12:20 PM
Surprised you're not doing backflips.
I am for him leaving, I am not because never wish ill will on anyone (ok, there are exceptions, but he's not one of them)


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: zooom on March 01, 2013, 04:20:51 AM
it is indeed sad...but there is one drawback to this...I am sure he will more than likely make himself available for consult on occasion...but Prezi DID in fact cultivate one of the most powerful bike engines on the grid without question...everyone knows that ( regardless of the fact that there are no published actual power figures really)...and he has a wealth of knowledge that Gobmeister really can use....Prezi in the end was a bit like Pierre Terblanche in the fact that he had revolutionary designs and vision...just not always with the best execution because there were certain areas, he just didn't have 100% of a handle on....so bag on him all you want and celebrate if you will...but I think there was a wealth of knowledge that will now be not as easy accessed and used and potentially lost...

just something to chew on for a moment....


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: duccarlos on March 01, 2013, 07:23:54 AM
Personally I will always respect someone that goes out on a limb. The issue is when you realize there is an issue and do something as extreme to fix it. Basically you hold onto the idea like a pitbull saying that it's the riders and not your design.


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: Raux on March 01, 2013, 07:36:56 AM
Personally I will always respect someone that goes out on a limb. The issue is when you realize there is an issue and do something as extreme to fix it. Basically you hold onto the idea like a pitbull saying that it's the riders and not your design.
and he was a pitbull that had lockjaw


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: zooom on March 01, 2013, 08:55:34 AM
Personally I will always respect someone that goes out on a limb. The issue is when you realize there is an issue and do something as extreme to fix it. Basically you hold onto the idea like a pitbull saying that it's the riders and not your design.

well...I am sure there was "some" logic built into his theory and design which perpetuated some of that...and yet, a fair portion of his design did end up being flawed to a degree and put them back a couple of light years in the progress circle of things....and some of that might be the fact that he tried to implement far too many radical new things at once....look at the whole frameless engine as a stressed member concept which went right from tradition to radical in no time flat and then you look at the Yamaha new set-up with the traditional style frame with an addition of the engine as a stressed member integrated into it and you have the ability to transition the riders and the feedback and everything surrounding it to better understand and progress it...instead, he went "whole hog/all in" on a concept with no transition and expected the riders to adapt...much like what Casey seemingly did to a degree, but no one else could....which also stands to reason why Prezi assumed to a degree that the riders were at fault for not being able to adapt...

I am not defending him...I am just offering something for you to think about...


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: gm2 on March 01, 2013, 10:15:37 AM
i'm repeating myself but whatevs.

the problem with that bike is some tiny decision somewhere.  it's not total crap or nicky would be getting lapped.  they've always been close to figuring it out, they just haven't turned the right dial.  problem is that there's about 10,000 dials.  re-read emmett's 90 degree V honda/ducati article.

that said, blaming the rider was never gonna work out.  and that seemed to be his m.o.


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: derby on March 01, 2013, 04:16:27 PM
...but Prezi DID in fact cultivate one of the most powerful bike engines on the grid without question...everyone knows that

nobody disputes that. in fact, it's "not that hard" to build a really, really powerful motor. making one with mangeable, rideable power delivery is something else entirely.


Title: Re: Preziosi resigns
Post by: OT on March 02, 2013, 08:58:00 AM
No expert here, but comparing (in thought) the recent/current Ducati GPs and the previous-era two-stroke GPs.  Both had (somewhat) unmanageable HP delivery.  Big differences then and now appear to be the replacement of rider-input skill with electronics and the spec tire....any comments?


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