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Title: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on March 07, 2013, 07:43:15 PM
Changed oil today. Manual calls for 3.9 quarts. Only got three in before it was in the level in the widow, that was with priming the filter. Ran it for a minute, still same level. Normal? Yes? No?

Just don't want to run around a quart low...


Gitter
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: Howie on March 07, 2013, 09:00:21 PM
The capacity stated in the manual is for a dry engine.  When you change oil some stays trapped in the engine and cooler.  How much varies.  Slightly under is better than slightly over.
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on March 08, 2013, 05:11:41 AM
Thanks, that's was what I thinking but just wanted to make sure I was on the right track. I'll check it again today just to make sure
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: thought on March 08, 2013, 09:20:43 AM
Did you change the oil when the bike was on a rear stand?  If so keep in mind that it will read lower than the actual amount if it's on the rear stand... if you fill it to the line when it's on a rear stand then you will have overfilled it.
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on March 08, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
Nope filled it with the bike upright. Checked the level again today and it's holding at full
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: Stormtrooper on March 10, 2013, 03:21:59 PM
Curious, what oil did you use?
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on March 12, 2013, 09:43:06 PM
Mobil1 10-40 ( the Moto specific one)
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: Curmudgeon on March 12, 2013, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: gitter on March 12, 2013, 09:43:06 PM
Mobil1 10-40 ( the Moto specific one)
Mobil 1 Racing 4T 10W40 is certainly good oil. However, if you are operating the bike in traffic in a hot climate, the bike will do a lot better on the full synthetic 15W50 your manual specifies. My dealer uses Redlline 15W50 ester-based synthetic. In my Triumph I use 20W50 Mobil 1 V-Twin because I never ride anywhere near freezing but do ride in 95 F occasionally. Mobil 1 used to make a Racing 4T 15W50 for Triumph but Triumph switched the contract over to Castrol, so Mobil 1 now recommend the V-Twin for this application. I see that Redline now make a 20W50 motorcycle-specific oil although the ester-based 15W50 is no issue for wet clutches and must contain no friction modifiers.

Couldn't figure out where you live, so you'll have to work this out for yourself.
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on March 22, 2013, 12:21:05 PM
I'm in Northern California ( sf bay area)
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on June 15, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
So I went back and read this thread after my clutch started slipping and I'm curious why the 15W50 would work better in hotter weather? The weather where I'm at goes from the high 20's ( which I will not be riding in) to the low 100's. This might be a novice question when it comes to oil but I haven't done too much reading about it.
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: SpikeC on June 15, 2013, 11:06:15 AM
 What weight oil does your manual specify?
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: gitter on June 15, 2013, 11:23:48 AM
says 15W50 but the temp chart next to it says 10W40 should work. I Just read the oil thread sticky and it wasnt very conclusive. Would using 10-40 instead of 15-50 cause the clutch to slip in hot weather / city riding in hot weather?
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: Curmudgeon on June 15, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: gitter on June 15, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
So I went back and read this thread after my clutch started slipping and I'm curious why the 15W50 would work better in hotter weather? The weather where I'm at goes from the high 20's ( which I will not be riding in) to the low 100's. This might be a novice question when it comes to oil but I haven't done too much reading about it.
That's HOT weather, and you need motorcycle-specific oil for wet clutches. You definitely need 15W50 for top end protection or 20W50. Worst case, you can use Mobil 1 V-Twin which you will find in many auto parts stores. FWIW, my dealer, ex-champion Ducati racer uses ONLY Redline 15W50 which is ester-based and works with wet clutches. No oil with friction modifiers will, so stay away from "auto" oil, no matter HOW exotic.
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: Howie on June 15, 2013, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: gitter on June 15, 2013, 11:23:48 AM
says 15W50 but the temp chart next to it says 10W40 should work. I Just read the oil thread sticky and it wasnt very conclusive. Would using 10-40 instead of 15-50 cause the clutch to slip in hot weather / city riding in hot weather?

Answered in your clutch thread.
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: cintronr on August 04, 2015, 01:08:34 AM
I just changed my oil and filter on my 2013 monster 796 today. The oil that came about was about 76 ounces or about 2.5 quarts. I poured in about 3 quarters and its resting at about half way on the sight glass. What gives?
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: Speeddog on August 04, 2015, 09:35:54 AM
Did you pre-fill the oil filter?

And did you drain the oil out of the old filter for your measurement?
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: jduke on August 04, 2015, 12:44:51 PM
I don't even measure mine any longer. Drain it, drop the oil filter and replace with a filled oil filter, pull and clean the screen, torque everything. Then fill oil till it settles at about half way of the window.
Crank it up, check for leaks, ride it around the neighborhood until I see people walking out their front door looking at what's making all the noise, go home and it's always right where it was before I terrorized the neighbors...
Title: Re: Quick 796 oil change question
Post by: cintronr on August 04, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
Hello speed dog,


I did pre-fill my new filter and I did remove as much oil as I could from the old filter for my measurement. I am guessing I check the oil when the bike is cold? If so it is slightly below the MAX line, I guess I am good?