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Title: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: dufukincati on April 28, 2013, 03:57:07 PM
Target fixation?  :o
http://youtu.be/dNFaAqS2f18 (http://youtu.be/dNFaAqS2f18)


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Spy+ on April 28, 2013, 04:16:28 PM
That was painful to watch..but the girl in the grey sweatpants  [drool]


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: hbliam on April 28, 2013, 04:37:53 PM
I was going to post that in the target fixation thread.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: MendoDave on April 28, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
That was painful to watch..but the girl in the grey sweatpants  [drool]

I know her, she has a horse face and some broken teeth.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Speeddog on April 28, 2013, 06:33:03 PM
FFS, I hope that guy sells the bike.

Next time it's going to be a tree/phone pole/light pole/immovable object that his system locks on to, not some hapless squishy bicyclist.

I feel bad for that bikie, he was doing everything right and he still got drilled in his six.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Mhanis on April 28, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
I am in no way imaginable blaming the dude on the bike but I have to ask, with all of the videos of motorcycles and cars running off the road on this stretch of highway, why in the hell would you rice a bike there!!??

People stand around to watch and video vehicles crashing, it happens a LOT. I would avoid this area like the plague!


Mark



Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Novelo on April 28, 2013, 11:18:28 PM
Plus one for the cyclist wearing his helmet.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Slide Panda on April 29, 2013, 05:23:13 AM
Motorcycle Crashes into Bicycles 4/27/2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFaAqS2f18&feature=player_detailpage#)

I was going to post that in the target fixation thread.

I was just about to as, well and saw this thread. THough I might double it up


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Slide Panda on April 29, 2013, 05:26:49 AM
I am in no way imaginable blaming the dude on the bike but I have to ask, with all of the videos of motorcycles and cars running off the road on this stretch of highway, why in the hell would you rice a bike there!!??

You're assuming the cyclists know that auto/moto shens happen there a lot. If they don't have/care about cars or engine powered bikes its possible they had no clue they were in such a hazardous area.

From Rnickymouse:
Even though bicycles are up here in increasing numbers, this is the first time a bycycle has been hit by a motorcycle In the fours years I've been up here. Motorcycle riders of all skill levels come up here to practice. This location it is pretty common for riders to sometimes go wide exiting the turn. It is very unfortunate, and a rare case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Real Recognize Real on April 29, 2013, 09:11:09 AM
Man, it was painful watching it.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: ducatiz on April 29, 2013, 09:15:14 AM
WHY didn't the cyclists commence to beating the shit out of him?



Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: zooom on April 29, 2013, 11:35:17 AM
WHY didn't the cyclists commence to beating the shit out of him?



looked like he was still wearing his full gear....so it would have been a kinda futile fight IMHO....


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: ducatiz on April 29, 2013, 11:49:19 AM
looked like he was still wearing his full gear....so it would have been a kinda futile fight IMHO....

Futility never stopped a slapfest from happening.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: zooom on April 29, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
I do wonder what the sheriff wrote the motorcyclist tickets/charges for?


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: hbliam on April 29, 2013, 12:27:43 PM
Unsafe speed or following too closely would work. From just watching the video there are no other criminal charges I could see. Everything else will be handled civilly. The bike was towed because it was either too damaged to ride or the rider was unlicensed or suspended.

And why beat the crap out of him? So you can be filmed assaulting someone and take a ride to jail?


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: LowThudd on April 29, 2013, 12:34:04 PM
Unsafe speed or following too closely would work. From just watching the video there are no other criminal charges I could see. Everything else will be handled civilly. The bike was towed because it was either too damaged to ride or the rider was unlicensed or suspended.

And why beat the crap out of him? So you can be filmed assaulting someone and take a ride to jail?

Aren't bicyclists also considered pedestrians in a vehicular accident? Seems there could be more charges based on that as well.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: ducatiz on April 29, 2013, 12:34:11 PM
And why beat the crap out of him? So you can be filmed assaulting someone and take a ride to jail?

If someone ran over me with a bike, that would cross my mind, I didn't see anyone give him a good "WTF?!?!"


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: zooom on April 29, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
Unsafe speed or following too closely would work. From just watching the video there are no other criminal charges I could see. Everything else will be handled civilly. The bike was towed because it was either too damaged to ride or the rider was unlicensed or suspended.
 

not vehicular assault or failure to control vehicle?


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: hbliam on April 29, 2013, 12:51:56 PM
Aren't bicyclists also considered pedestrians in a vehicular accident? Seems there could be more charges based on that as well.

Nope.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: hbliam on April 29, 2013, 12:54:24 PM
not vehicular assault or failure to control vehicle?

Really? Vehicular assault? The moto rider blew it but its not criminal unless there were drugs/alcohol on board.

This isn't a witch hunt. It's a traffic collision.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: justinrhenry on April 29, 2013, 02:45:08 PM


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Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Greg on April 29, 2013, 04:06:17 PM
Sounded like he didn't let off the throttle until he was about 3 feet from them. In the chase cam video it shows him passing quite a few cyclists before that turn so he should have anticipated more around the corner. Cyclist is lucky to be alive.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: showerfan on April 29, 2013, 07:27:55 PM
i love this video. after i realized no one was seriously injured, i watched it a few more times. cyclist gets no blame, and im a cyclist myself on the odd, unfortunate occasion, but they are annoying as f@ck and mostly vain, lance-armstrong style #$%^%$ taking up my pavement!

 ;D


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Monsterlover on May 04, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
Plus one for the cyclist wearing his helmet.

Indeed. I think he might have been dead without it.


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Case S2R on May 15, 2013, 04:02:31 PM
im a cyclist myself on the odd, unfortunate occasion, but they are annoying as f@ck and mostly vain, lance-armstrong style #$%^%$ taking up my pavement!

 ;D

Huh?  You are painting with a wide brush on this statement.  Cyclist and moto riders are birds of feather.  Many of us "annoying make the beast with two backss" spend a lot of time on each.  Typically your middle age man (in the video) on custom built Firefly is not a "mostly vain, lance-armstrong style #$%^%$ taking up my pavement!"

You need to rethink your logic,

Case


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: zooom on May 16, 2013, 06:11:18 AM
Huh?  You are painting with a wide brush on this statement.  Cyclist and moto riders are birds of feather.  Many of us "annoying make the beast with two backss" spend a lot of time on each.  Typically your middle age man (in the video) on custom built Firefly is not a "mostly vain, lance-armstrong style #$%^%$ taking up my pavement!"

You need to rethink your logic,

Case

ummm...I guess the "cheeky" smiley at the bottom of his response didn't tip you off to his sarcasm then did it?


Title: Re: [crash] Motorcycle vs Bicycles
Post by: Skybarney on May 16, 2013, 07:25:55 AM
First and foremost the motorcycle rider was technically at fault for the accident.  Morally?  WTF are roadies doing riding on canyon routes that are heavily trafficked by fast moving cars and bikes?  Years ago I came around a turn on Latigo Canyon and nearly ran face into ass into about 30 UCLA Road Nazi's riding two to three wide around the back of a blind tight turn.  I nearly crashed my bike (at 40mph) trying to avoid tearing through them.

I called the UCLA cycling coach and politely told him of the near accident and was told and I quote "piss off we are just as entitled to the road as you are".  Needless to say the next time it happened (and it did) I made a point of their recklessness resulting in some bent wheels and road rash.  Lesson learned?  Apparently only the hard way.  The next time I saw the group they were all riding single file.......   Some people only learn through pain.

As for my earlier question?  I know exactly why roadies like to ride high traffic mountain roads.  They like being seen, pure vanity.  There are a ton of great asphalt roads with light traffic to ride on yet you seldom see roadies there.  We have the same problems here in Nor-Cal.  Despite miles and miles of light traffic roads you will see the turd balls riding highway 49 through the confluence all the time. 

I rode bicycles for years in and was a 300 mile a week rider.  My opinions were formed through personal experience.  If you wanna ride that's fine, However when your ride is on high traffic roads with no shoulder to speak of, bad things will happen.  In fact I just witnessed a bicyclist get hit on Skyline by a drivers van mirror.  He was hurt pretty badly and my sympathy was fairly low, it is a narrow twisty high traffic road with no shoulder.



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