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Title: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: triangleforge on May 12, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
Every weekend, my neighbor seems to drag home another motorized project - the v12 BMW, a pair of '60s Fiat 500s, a Crosley, a clapped out Triumph flat tracker... It's always something interesting.

Tonight, it was a Ducati Paso that he picked up for $350. It's hard to say much about it, as all the plastics, tank & seat are off & I looked it over just now in the dark by cellphone flashlight, but best I can tell it's complete, dirty, a little dry-rotted, mostly un-messed with, original Weber carb, 2-into-1 D&D pipe. It's been sitting for several years with a full tank of bad gas. It's got a title & it runs.

He's generally pretty good at putting some modest effort into these projects (he's an automotive machinist by trade) and turning them out at a profit, but well short of a restoration. He said he'd like to ride it, but isn't really interested in hanging on to it long-term.

So what should he do? Aside from changing the old, dried-out belts before he tries running it again, that is...


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Grampa on May 12, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
use it to do wheelies and pick up hot chicks.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: triangleforge on May 12, 2013, 07:39:16 PM
All the hot chicks will think it's a Honda Pacific Coast.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 12, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
First off, which Paso?  I assume the 750?

It's one step from a Pantah motor.  Check the electrics.  Does it have the mirrors?

Tires are a problem if it still has the original 16" rims.  Big problem.  There is one company making a run of them and I think the going rate is about $200 each..

Ah, here it is http://www.goldentyreusa.com/Ducati_Paso_GT_070_GT_071.html (http://www.goldentyreusa.com/Ducati_Paso_GT_070_GT_071.html)

they are not bad looking, but no one knows how they will perform.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: triangleforge on May 12, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
Given the Weber, I was assuming the 750 as well, but didn't realize until I looked it up that there was a bigger iteration with a Weber carb before the injected 907ie.

it's got the original wheels, which I recalled were a real issue with this bike. Kind of too bad, as I really like the look of the wheels themselves. Front tire looks largely un-ridden (though probably old and dried out) and I didn't look all that closely at the rear.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: LowThudd on May 12, 2013, 08:42:40 PM
Find someone who is poor and bikeless and pay it forward(hint hint) [evil]
















No I'm not kidding


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 13, 2013, 03:52:05 AM
http://www.goldentyreusa.com/Ducati_Paso_GT_070_GT_071.html (http://www.goldentyreusa.com/Ducati_Paso_GT_070_GT_071.html)

Check with the Brits and Euros. Goldentyre is Brit company. I know about them from the SuMo circles as they are one of the limited manufacturers that do 16.5" used by some SuMo racers


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: brad black on May 13, 2013, 04:52:56 AM
leave it as is and take to it with an old fork leg any time you've had a crap day.  $350 worth of smiles right there.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ungeheuer on May 13, 2013, 05:09:05 AM
leave it as is and take to it with an old fork leg any time you've had a crap day.  $350 worth of smiles right there.
[laugh]


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 05:55:55 AM
Where is it?  If he wants to sell it as is and make a buck on it, drop me a PM.  I love a paso and i have shitton of parts I'm hoarding for one.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: zooom on May 13, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
I say take it and run with it...make something freaky and ridable and custom like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Cagiva-Ducati-650-Elefant-/151042712037?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item232ad8e1e5 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Cagiva-Ducati-650-Elefant-/151042712037?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item232ad8e1e5)

not that this example is the prettiest thing....but I bet it is quite functionally ridable.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Speedbag on May 13, 2013, 09:38:44 AM
Send it to me, as I have no Ducati and need a cool project.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 09:59:58 AM
I say take it and run with it...make something freaky and ridable and custom like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Cagiva-Ducati-650-Elefant-/151042712037?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item232ad8e1e5 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Cagiva-Ducati-650-Elefant-/151042712037?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item232ad8e1e5)

not that this example is the prettiest thing....but I bet it is quite functionally ridable.

it's hideous.. utterly.. kill it with fire.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: koko64 on May 13, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
 [laugh]
I like the overall motard/Dumbostrada concept, but the taste of styling is unfair to that bike. Surely there were other headlight/screen options in keeping with the bike? Well it probably lights up the road effectively.
Good touches like the slave cylinder mod, wheels, etc, but someone buy that bike and save it.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 13, 2013, 05:07:02 PM
[laugh]
I like the overall motard/Dumbostrada concept, but the taste of styling is unfair to that bike. Surely there were other headlight/screen options in keeping with the bike? Well it probably lights up the road effectively.
Good touches like the slave cylinder mod, wheels, etc, but someone buy that bike and save it.

I do too but that one looks like it was whipped with an ugly stick.

I am troubled by the front end too, the front wheel looks way too small.  Perhaps that's the long Elefant Marzocchis doing that, but then you have the problem of the gas tank being at the wrong angle.

Something just doesn't look right, and it's not just the bubba-licious headlights..  Ugh my eyes.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: roggie on May 13, 2013, 05:45:35 PM
Haha, Here is what I read...

What do I do with 350 Pesos?

Sorry, it's been a long day.

Back on track though, could you strip off the plastic and make it naked?


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Speeddog on May 13, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
~~~SNIP~~~

Back on track though, could you strip off the plastic and make it naked?


You could, but they're hella ugly without bodywork.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: brimo on May 14, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
it's hideous.. utterly.. kill it with fire.
Which? the Peso or that elefant? I reckon both.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ChrisK on May 14, 2013, 05:28:18 AM
I do too but that one looks like it was whipped with an ugly stick.

I am troubled by the front end too, the front wheel looks way too small.  Perhaps that's the long Elefant Marzocchis doing that, but then you have the problem of the gas tank being at the wrong angle.

Something just doesn't look right, and it's not just the bubba-licious headlights..  Ugh my eyes.


I know this is still way off topic so I'm sorry. I just read the description of that bike and it's got the same size front rim/tire as any of our monsters. I agree it's hideous, but there's a lot of potential there.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 14, 2013, 05:32:06 AM
Which? the Peso or that elefant? I reckon both.

The clustermake the beast with two backs Elefant in the auction.  Both are beautiful in original kit.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 14, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
Every weekend, my neighbor seems to drag home another motorized project - the v12 BMW, a pair of '60s Fiat 500s, a Crosley, a clapped out Triumph flat tracker... It's always something interesting.

Tonight, it was a Ducati Paso that he picked up for $350. It's hard to say much about it, as all the plastics, tank & seat are off & I looked it over just now in the dark by cellphone flashlight, but best I can tell it's complete, dirty, a little dry-rotted, mostly un-messed with, original Weber carb, 2-into-1 D&D pipe. It's been sitting for several years with a full tank of bad gas. It's got a title & it runs.

He's generally pretty good at putting some modest effort into these projects (he's an automotive machinist by trade) and turning them out at a profit, but well short of a restoration. He said he'd like to ride it, but isn't really interested in hanging on to it long-term.

So what should he do? Aside from changing the old, dried-out belts before he tries running it again, that is...

I'll tell you what you should do with it.

Find the nearest cliff and push it over, or park it on the tracks.

Paso's are the most hideous bikes ever made [puke]

They need to be exterminated


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 14, 2013, 09:17:42 AM
I'll tell you what you should do with it.

Find the nearest cliff and push it over, or park it on the tracks.

Paso's are the most hideous bikes ever made [puke]

They need to be exterminated

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  It is a great handling bike, fyi.  The looks are funny but given its "fully enclosed" engine design was revolutionary, you have to give Tamburini some slack. 

That being said, they are mechanically nearly identical to the 89-90 900SS.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 14, 2013, 09:36:39 AM
True, but they still make me heave


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: LowThudd on May 14, 2013, 09:54:07 AM
To OP. If you need some bits and pieces for it, there is one getting parted out: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/3753605332.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/mcy/3753605332.html)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: memper on May 14, 2013, 07:20:02 PM
I say make it into a 10' digger with purple flames


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: NakedPastaRocket on May 14, 2013, 08:10:15 PM
Being a young guy and having never heard of this particular model Ducati I had to do some google-fu to pull up some images..."Holy god that's ugly" is what first game out of my mouth lol.  Sorry.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: rgramjet on May 15, 2013, 03:45:23 AM
Being a young guy and having never heard of this particular model Ducati I had to do some google-fu to pull up some images..."Holy god that's ugly" is what first game out of my mouth lol.  Sorry.

Everytime I see someone busting on the Paso, I wonder if these people are looking at the same bike.

What is there not to like about it?  It was a very innovative bike at the time.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 15, 2013, 04:17:01 AM
They just look super dated.

Riding one would be like trying to drag knee on a pig ;D


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Cloner on May 15, 2013, 04:53:42 AM
I finished a project on a 906 Paso a few months ago.  The bike ran better (read:  smoother) than any other carbureted Ducati I've played with after the carb was dialed in. 

Dump the fuel.  Change the oil, and both fuel and oil filters.  Add a pair of tires if needed.  Ride.  It's ugly, but it's darned comfortable.

Goldentyre now has an importer in Colorado if he needs rubber.  Last I read she's stocking Paso tires there.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 15, 2013, 05:18:07 AM
They just look super dated.

Riding one would be like trying to drag knee on a pig ;D

They are excellent handling bikes.  Seriously, if you ever get the chance try it.  Esp the 906


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ungeheuer on May 15, 2013, 05:26:48 AM
True, but they still make me heave
^^ This.

I dont care how well they handle, I'm too make the beast with two backsing busy  [puke] [puke] [puke].

 [puke]












 [puke]


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: rgramjet on May 15, 2013, 07:58:32 AM
The Drama!
 [roll]

I discount your opinions unless you've ridden or even stood next to one!


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Curmudgeon on May 15, 2013, 08:23:33 AM
They are excellent handling bikes.  Seriously, if you ever get the chance try it.  Esp the 906
Could never quite get used to that GP derived 16" up front although I rode a Limited for two years. I'm sure the 17" on the 906 felt much better but I moved on to the first 851 instead. My Limited was Cagiva's take on a db1 which cost twice as much and was simply not in my budget. Explains the bodywork to the youngsters perhaps? ;) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/BimotaDB1.JPG/726px-BimotaDB1.JPG)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: LowThudd on May 15, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
IDK, if you consider what other sport bikes were available in the late eighties, the Paso ain't so bad. Plus, it's a desmo [thumbsup]

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Ned/Katana/katana.jpg)
(http://www.albatrosmt.narod.ru/temi/oboi/Honda/Honda-CBR600F-Hurricane-1988.jpg)
(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z62/Superfly902102000/WHITE%2089%20NINJA/DSCN2737.jpg)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: zooom on May 15, 2013, 09:25:11 AM
no matter what....a Paso still looks better than an Indiana



'nuff said!


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 15, 2013, 03:45:23 PM
They are excellent handling bikes.  Seriously, if you ever get the chance try it.  Esp the 906

I've only ever seen the 750 in person and it was all I could handle. Is the 906 much different?


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: rgramjet on May 15, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
I've only ever seen the 750 in person and it was all I could handle. Is the 906 much different?

Ok, you stood next to it.  What was so traumatic about the experience?  I'm seriously curious.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 15, 2013, 04:36:32 PM
I've only ever seen the 750 in person and it was all I could handle. Is the 906 much different?

Yes, it's a 900 with six speed so it feels more like a 90s 900ss.

The ergos on the bike are excellent and it has a much stiffer frame than the trellis frames.  The 16" gp style wheel is funky, but you get used to it quickly -- it turns very easily.

It's like a lot of things you'll do in life -- once you're on top, you enjoy the ride and don't worry as much how it looks... 


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 15, 2013, 04:55:14 PM
Ok, you stood next to it.  What was so traumatic about the experience?  I'm seriously curious.

Its ugly as make the beast with two backs. Not sure how to be more clear on that.  Its just not a bike that does anything for me. I also don't care for the ST's or the Multi's (except the new one, that ones cool)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 15, 2013, 05:09:22 PM
lol yeah yeah, it is a real black and white reaction people have


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: rgramjet on May 16, 2013, 02:21:35 AM
lol yeah yeah, it is a real black and white reaction people have

I'm starting to grasp that!  lol





ML's opinion about the Paso, discounted.

 ;D




Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 03:01:09 AM
I love the PASO.

in fact, if you could take a PASO and due a total modern internal makeover, 11 deg motor, modern suspension, etc. it would be perfect... I wouldn't change a thing about the way it looks.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: koko64 on May 16, 2013, 03:51:07 AM
Wish I could find a Paso for 350 bucks. At that price you could turn it into a great bike.

The Paso in question, 750 or 900?


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 16, 2013, 03:56:45 AM
I'm starting to grasp that!  lol





ML's opinion about the Paso, discounted.

 ;D





 >:(




 [laugh]


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ungeheuer on May 16, 2013, 05:27:08 AM
I love the PASO.

in fact, if you could take a PASO and due a total modern internal makeover, 11 deg motor, modern suspension, etc. it would be perfect... I wouldn't change a thing about the way it looks.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


My make the beast with two backsing sides are aching....   [bang] [laugh]




Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: brad black on May 16, 2013, 05:29:23 AM
I crashed the living shit out of a 906.  made an amazing mess, esp what my nuts did to the back of the fuel tank.

i'd love a rat 750.  wonder if a monster tank would fit.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 16, 2013, 05:35:08 AM
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


My make the beast with two backsing sides are aching....   [bang] [laugh]




:D


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 16, 2013, 06:12:23 AM
I crashed the living shit out of a 906.  made an amazing mess, esp what my nuts did to the back of the fuel tank.

 [laugh]   [puke]


Quote
i'd love a rat 750.  wonder if a monster tank would fit.

not even close.  box frame vs trellis, totally different shape, you name it.






Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: triangleforge on May 16, 2013, 08:43:27 AM
Wish I could find a Paso for 350 bucks. At that price you could turn it into a great bike.

The Paso in question, 750 or 900?

I don't know - I haven't had a chance to get a better look in daylight; I'd initially assumed it had to be a 750 because of the Weber carb, but found out that they did a carbed 907 before they went to fuel injection on the 907ie.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Triple J on May 16, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
Its ugly as make the beast with two backs.

That about sums it up.  [thumbsup]

Who cares how it handles...there are plenty of great handling bikes that don't look like a bag of ass that has been worked over by an ugly stick. Twice!


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 08:57:57 AM
(http://motoprofi.com/bikephoto/4308/ducati_907_i.e._paso_1992_2.jpg)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Raux on May 16, 2013, 09:06:48 AM
it has elements of the TT, 851/888, SS, even the diavel's split site radiator influence comes from it

I would totally enjoy one with modern wheels, forks, brakes, motor, shock and exhaust.
20years later the design is fresh to me. just the tech needs updating.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Monsterlover on May 16, 2013, 09:21:03 AM
Drop some Paso plastic on an 848?

 God, I can't believe I just suggested that.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on May 17, 2013, 06:34:22 AM
Drop some Paso plastic on an 848?

 God, I can't believe I just suggested that.

Ban yourself.


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: rgramjet on May 17, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
Getcher Barf Bags ready Girls!  Check this out!
















 http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Paso-Right-600x450.jpg (http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Paso-Right-600x450.jpg)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 18, 2013, 08:34:31 AM
Getcher Barf Bags ready Girls!  Check this out!



 [Img=http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Paso-Right-600x450.jpg]http://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Paso-Right-600x450.jpg[/img]

Ill be in my bunk


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: memper on May 18, 2013, 03:45:49 PM
Looks kinda "Interceptor-ish".


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: triangleforge on May 18, 2013, 10:19:59 PM
So after a couple of days of work to get back brakes & clutch, wiring around the missing ignition cylinder, and rigging up a way to kill the motor (for some reason, the actual kill switch had been disabled), my neighbor Bill and his friend Peter loaded up the $350 Paso, took it past a battery place (where it became a $400 Paso with a new battery) and out to an industrial park that's empty on the weekend. As they were headed out, he told me he was going to figure out if he loved it and wanted to keep it, or unload it.

They were gone for a good three hours and came back with big smiles on their faces. Looks like the bike found a home.

They were running it without the side fairings, and we were talking a bit about how just glassing up some side skirts to visually connect up the top fairing & tank - while leaving most of the motor exposed - might be a good look, especially if you cleaned things up a bit under the tail as well.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ClqmeupSZDw/UZgCoRiDDiI/AAAAAAAABeM/C2wf-TCPkDw/w702-h527-no/%255BUNSET%255D)


Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: rendang on May 19, 2013, 03:33:22 AM

   Your neighbour got a bargain.
       http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/details/ducati-906-paso-1989-13126344?__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32|0||p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_HasPhotos_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal|1||p_PhotoCount_Int32|1&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&__sid=13EBEAB9D0BF&__N=1432%20604%201430%201626%201429%201626%201428%204294967242%204294955758 (http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/details/ducati-906-paso-1989-13126344?__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32|0||p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_HasPhotos_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal|1||p_PhotoCount_Int32|1&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&__sid=13EBEAB9D0BF&__N=1432%20604%201430%201626%201429%201626%201428%204294967242%204294955758)





Title: Re: What to do with a $350 Paso?
Post by: ducatiz on May 19, 2013, 04:26:13 AM
That's a Paso 906.  Neighbor got a 750.  Big difference.

   Your neighbour got a bargain.
       http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/details/ducati-906-paso-1989-13126344?__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32|0||p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_HasPhotos_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal|1||p_PhotoCount_Int32|1&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&__sid=13EBEAB9D0BF&__N=1432%20604%201430%201626%201429%201626%201428%204294967242%204294955758 (http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/details/ducati-906-paso-1989-13126344?__Ns=p_IsPoa_Int32|0||p_RankSort_Int32|1||p_HasPhotos_Int32|1||p_Make_String|0||p_Model_String|0||p_YearMade_Int32|1||p_PriceSort_Decimal|1||p_PhotoCount_Int32|1&__Nne=15&__Qpb=1&__sid=13EBEAB9D0BF&__N=1432%20604%201430%201626%201429%201626%201428%204294967242%204294955758)






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