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My M1100 has been having some surgery over the last few weeks. A new spray paint job over the stock red, the color is a graphite grey from the Ducati color book, not sure of the code. There are three coats and a clear, with a black racing strip down the left of the upper tank surface, breaking off at the seat then continuing across the rear cowl. You can't see it in this photo. The clutch cover is also getting painted this weekend to finish it all off.

Over time I've been ripping off the stock OEM peripheral parts and replacing with DP or Rizoma gear and dropped at least 25-30lb of the bike in the process. All of the Rizoma gear that had gold anodizing has been rubbed back and re-done in black to stick with the black/grey and silver contrast styling. You can see the original bike look from three months ago in my avatar.

I had the Termi's slip-ons on the stock pipes but got tired of those so sought out a good pipe bender who could do what I wanted. The pipes are custom Wizard Sleeve, 2" SS with ceramic coating and inner cores of SS mesh and FG for baffling and back pressure. The O2 sensor is fitted and working but the servo has been disconnected with the EM link retained to stop annoying error LEDs popping up.  The end caps are custom molded alloy, in a rectangular x-section, hand machined with carved fluting & striations. I'll get some clearer pics of them once I can get the bike into some better light, they are really sensational to look at.

I like the open rear look, so from the pics below you can see where I was going. The next phase (once my wallet recovers)  is to somehow lower the headlight assembly and drop the gauges about an inch or two so they don't sit so high, all without cutting anything. I'm thinking of using spacers and longer bolts, dunno yet, wiring may be a problem here.

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Next week is a dyno and some work on fuel mixes, I expect it to run a little rich, just how much is what we want to look into.

More as it happens.

Jim

That's a pretty trick looking exhaust you got there.  Post up some more pics

Love it.  X2 on more pix.

Looks great!  The contrast you get with the white wheels is awesome.  A carbon fiber rear tire hugger would set it off!

Can't wait for more pics!   8)

The rims are actually stock silver, it's just the light that makes them look white, although I am trying to get a real contrast between the dark and light using the dark grey and silver, similar to others who have used black and gold which personally I thought had been done to death (no offense to anyone who has done so, just my personal pref  :) ).

I'm back at the workshop tomorrow so I'll take some better quality shots and close-ups of the pipes. I found out just before that the forks have developed a fluid leak due to seal shrinkage, I imagine due to lack of use over the last couple of months it's been in bits. So the triple will have to be demounted again = more $ and more waiting....*sigh*

 

V nice. I would paint the hugger the dark gray to match. And add a heat shield. I see a melted boot heel in your future...or does it look closer due to the photo angle?
It will be interesting to see the dyno.


(** I would LOVE to hear those pipes. Vid please?)

There is a heat shield going on, it was in the paint booth at the time of the photo. It will run for about 12 " along the closest boot proximity to the pipe. About 50/50 either side of the sump 'window'. The right peg is not as close as it looks in the photo, I have already tried it out and I have Size 10's, it was more a problem for the inside of my right foot and toe. The pipes are perfectly aligned the same dimensions, photo parallax just makes them appear different.

The hugger is stock and quite flexible, I doubt paint would stay on it without crazing so I need to get a CF version that is stiffer, no money for that at the moment.

The sound is out of this world, trumps the Termi's hands down. I did get an audio but the acoustics in the workshop were terrible and the guys had Slayer playing in the background REALLY LOUD. I will capture the dyno with audio and put it on YT, hopefully this coming week. I already have a dyno run with Termi's on from 12 months back but it was a different dyno to the one next week so you can't really compare numbers. I'm just interested in A) a smooth (comparable) curve, B) where the rpm sweet spot will be now that the engine has higher flow and C) the A/F mix.

Here's some closeups of the pipes and end caps as requested.

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^sick! I love it when people ditch the off the shelf and get creative!

Does the pipe tag really say Wizard Sleeve? LOL  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


On a more serious note, is there a crossover pipe?

Yes it does say Wizard Sleeve, the comparison is obvious  :)

There is a X-over, yes. It's behind the engine, hidden by the right rearset.

Comin along well Jim.

Yeah thanks Rowdy. I can't wait to get on it again, its been weeks since I've ridden.

The PC5 goes in tomorrow and the dyno is prob Friday. I'm hoping the tuner will allow me into the booth to record the whole thing, depends on OH&S rules I suppose and how angsty he is about them. Fingers X-ed

OK, the dyno is done, the results are below, some background context first though.

I had a PC5 installed on Thursday, with the new O2 optimiser kit, which threw the installer a bit because he'd never seen one with the new wiring so it took longer to get in.

There are two charts but not on the same Dynojet system, so don't take numbers too seriously, there will be margins of error for setup, tuner etc. I was more interested in the power curve and AF ratio's.

The first chart shows the dyno run from nearly 2 years ago by Ducati when I had the Termi's slip-ons, air filter and ECU installed (stock pipes). The red line is the stock cans and the blue is after the Termi's kit is installed. At the time I thought it was an improvement but the low rev range (<3.5k) might prove to be a "bit of a challenge" shall we say but a definite improvement through the mid range though.

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The second chart shows a couple of Friday's runs with the new Wizard Sleeve pipes and the PC5 fitted. We took a baseline before the AF tuning but there were some issues with a sensor which were resolved after 3 or 4 more runs but I forgot to ask him to capture the chart, so we only have an already tuned chart with the comparison with the O2 optimizer added in.

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It was surprising how much difference just the O2 Optimiser added (blue line) at the extremes of the rev range.

I'm no expert in dyno's so would appreciate the more learned commenting on the results but to me the low end looks a world better but through mid and high there is little change compared to the Termi setup. I'm pleased with the smooth curve, it looks like there will be no surprises through the rev range. I suppose the true test is via seat time, which I have a few more days to wait for.

It took about 4 hours for a custom front and rear map to be created and I'd like to thank Dave at Dyno Bike in Moorabin for putting up with me kibitzing for that long ;D. BTW, the pipes are soooo sweet to listen to. I have a video I'm editing to put on YT soon, I'm not sure how the audio will turn out, the dyno booth isn't really acoustically setup for sound recording. I'll provide a link when I'm done.

the first chart shows way lean in the low rpm

i have used a dyno before with the same software

if you can get the dyno result file the winpep software is free online and you can make whatever graph display you like using the file

time/power
torque/hp
power /af

etc

the time/power graph is good to review

doesnt matter if you can make 200hp if it takes 5 mins to get there

Very surprising.

PCV's O2 optimisers do NOTHING at all outside of closed loop rev range.  Below 4,500rpm*  the optimisers role is to "fatten" up the stock AFR to compensate for being unable to control fuelling thru PCV's parameters in closed loop.   In open loop, above 4,500rpm* your optimisers do absolutely zilch, any improvement there is coming thru fuelling managed by PCV inputs.

(*or something close to that, I forget the exactly the closed to open loop rpm on M1100... 3,750.. 4,000.. 4250.. 4,500..  thereabouts)
 

Update: Here's the link to the YT video of the dyno session to create the PC maps.

http://youtu.be/fannZ7dltu4 (http://youtu.be/fannZ7dltu4)

Sorry for the sound quality, the booth and camera were not the best for audio capture. The pipes sound higher noted than they are in real life and also you miss out on the happy burbling they do at idle  ;)


Fair enough, you learn something new every day eh

Some days I learn the same new thing twice  ;) [laugh] 

Your bike is certainly interesting and different from the same old same old  [thumbsup].  Brad at Bikecraft did the custom paintwork on my M1100.  I'm not really a fan of his style (and he made it pretty clear the feeling is mutual  [laugh]), but the quality of his work is absolutely fabulous  [thumbsup].   He did a great job for me despite my wants being too conservative for his taste.

The bike is now at home, picked up on Saturday and I'm loving it. The pipes are wonderful to hear at 0-5k, after that they get a bit loud and tend to 'bang' instead of 'boom' if you know what I mean. I'm not talking about backfire or popping, it's just the note is more like a WSBK note, sharp and barking. I'll leave things as they are and let the pipes get a bit carbonised and see what happens over the next couple of weeks. Although I might have to get some small baffles put into the end caps so as to not attract  [leo].

The PC5 has totally changed the low rev handling, it's a lot more predictable and smoother off the line.

A decent audio file and some better photos with a real camera and lighting to follow ASAP.

Can. Not. Wait. [clap]

Some new pics, been screaming around with my hair on fire having a lot of fun. We had a decent couple of sunny dry days (It's winter in AU right now).

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr158/sundogatoz/DSCF0917_zps35d11f57.jpg)

(http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr158/sundogatoz/DSCF0916_zpsc38684c0.jpg)

and the happy owner (although I don't look too happy for some reason  ;D)

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I haven't got a video with any decent sound yet, all the mic's I have get distorted sound recording. I'm trying to source a decent one from a mate.

Great pics of a great bike man!! Congrats!   [clap] [clap]

Great Dyno video! I am loving the exhaust too!

I'd love to hear a clip of the exhaust.  Looking great by the way.

It's taken me a while to get around to it, apologies, but  it's mid winter here and my baby was all wrapped up ready for spring but I had a quiet weekend so here is a video with a better sound and graphic quality.

http://youtu.be/YsU7AUxCJkA (http://youtu.be/YsU7AUxCJkA)

Sounds good!  Looks like you added a heat shield no?

Yes I did. We'd already fabbed it and was sitting there for a while all painted and ready to go. It isn't really functionally necessary, there is no heat problem on my right foot because the spacing is pretty good but we thought that visually the shield "broke" the length of the pipe and was therefore more appealing to the eye.

I have the CF hugger painted up now and will install it this weekend. After that it's pretty much done as far as expense goes (yeah right!!). I just need to find a way to lower the instrument binnacle about 3cm so it's more in between the forks but without cutting anything, a solution is proving difficult.

Jim

Nice job! love the looks of the pipes  [thumbsup]