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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: kendallb on July 20, 2013, 05:18:14 PM

Title: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 20, 2013, 05:18:14 PM

Hello everyone,

Recently i did a handle bar swap and a tail light switch...Since then, at some point my speedometer stopped working properly.

I dont know if it has anything to do with either, but maybe i unplugged something or did something wrong.

The needle still moves but barely. For example i know im going over 60mpg but it only reads 10mph.

I took apart the dash and rewound the needle to the 0 position and it worked!!.. but only for 10 min.

Just wondering if anyone has experienced this, and knows how it can be fixed.. before im forced to take it into the shop.

Thanks everyone, any tips at all would be much appreciated! :)
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: Ddan on July 21, 2013, 03:14:15 AM
What year is your bike?  Mechanical or electronic speedo?
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 06:56:04 AM
Quote from: Ddan on July 21, 2013, 03:14:15 AM
What year is your bike?  Mechanical or electronic speedo?

its an 02 M620..

4000 miles, runs great!
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 07:27:54 AM

Oh, and its a mechanical speedo
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2013, 07:33:15 AM
So, you have a speedo cable running from the front wheel to the dash?
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: Ddan on July 21, 2013, 08:42:48 AM
I thought the '02 got the electronic...
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
Quote from: Ddan on July 21, 2013, 08:42:48 AM
I thought the '02 got the electronic...
I'm almost positive it did.

I think he's assuming his analog gauge is mechanical.
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 11:16:06 AM

Sorry i misunderstood.

yes it is electric.. was thinking about the analog gauge.

Thing about the speedo cable..(and sorry in advace, as i am not as versed in basic knowledge. New rider)

is that i looked at the routing and it doesnt seem to route to the front,

but rather routes with other cables directly to the back sensor on the rear wheel.

Other places i've looked mentioned it routing to the front as well, but only the front break wires are there.


Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

I removed the rear sensor thinking maybe it was torn or dirty..

seems to be fine. I've read that the magnets can go after a while.

But i did manage to fix it shortly just by manually pushing the analog speedo guage around to the 0mph.

As it seems to rest at the 160mph on the other side(which is strange)
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
The analog mechanical gauges route to the front.

The analog electric gauges are driven by a sensor on the rear wheel

I think you have a bad gauge.

It gets difficult to replace due to the immobilizer.

Do you have a red key?
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 21, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
The analog mechanical gauges route to the front.

The analog electric gauges are driven by a sensor on the rear wheel

I think you have a bad gauge.

It gets difficult to replace due to the immobilizer.

Do you have a red key?

ahhh i see

Yes, i have a red key...

What would you recommend i do?



Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2013, 03:56:09 PM
New gauges from Ducati are expensive.

Since you have the red key you should be able to buy a used cluster and 'marry' it to your ecu.

The other option is to have your ecu re-flashed and the immobilizer disabled which will allow you to use any aftermarket gauges you want.
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 21, 2013, 03:56:09 PM
New gauges from Ducati are expensive.

Since you have the red key you should be able to buy a used cluster and 'marry' it to your ecu.

The other option is to have your ecu re-flashed and the immobilizer disabled which will allow you to use any aftermarket gauges you want.

Nice, thanks for the suggestion!!

Yea i absolutely wanna avoid the cash for a new one if i can.

Fiddling with the gauge a bit more and seeing what i can do. Really hoping this is a small fix.
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: Fergus on July 21, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
Quote from: kendallb on July 20, 2013, 05:18:14 PM
Hello everyone,

Recently i did a handle bar swap and a tail light switch...Since then, at some point my speedometer stopped working properly.

I dont know if it has anything to do with either, but maybe i unplugged something or did something wrong.

The needle still moves but barely. For example i know im going over 60mpg but it only reads 10mph.

I took apart the dash and rewound the needle to the 0 position and it worked!!.. but only for 10 min.

Just wondering if anyone has experienced this, and knows how it can be fixed.. before im forced to take it into the shop.

Thanks everyone, any tips at all would be much appreciated! :)
I sent you a PM - had a similar problem with a very cheap fix.

Mine was completely limp - it just sat there leaning against the knob below 0 mph. The needle is connected to a small rod that moves with the speed. Mine was spinning freely and not moving the needle. Maybe yours is similar, but has a little bit of friction. I just pulled the needle out, put some superglue in the hole, and put it back on. It's been working ever since, though I wish I'd set the need up to 0 mph when I glued it because is shows about 4 mph low now, but that's no big deal.

--Ferg
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: kendallb on July 21, 2013, 08:30:21 PM
Quote from: Fergus on July 21, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
I sent you a PM - had a similar problem with a very cheap fix.

Mine was completely limp - it just sat there leaning against the knob below 0 mph. The needle is connected to a small rod that moves with the speed. Mine was spinning freely and not moving the needle. Maybe yours is similar, but has a little bit of friction. I just pulled the needle out, put some superglue in the hole, and put it back on. It's been working ever since, though I wish I'd set the need up to 0 mph when I glued it because is shows about 4 mph low now, but that's no big deal.

--Ferg

yes, thank you. Saw that..

Wrote you back a huge thumbs up  [thumbsup]

Trying that first thing tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: dimitry on July 22, 2013, 08:07:14 AM
Does the needle do a full startup sequence? If so, I'd say the needle is fine and the problem is with your rear wheel sensor.

My '03 620 had the same issue last season. I ended up buying a used '02 sensor online thinking they were the same ('03 wasn't sold by anyone at the time). It didn't fit, so I still have it. Finally bought the actual one I need and that fixed my speedo issue.

If you end up finding out that the sensor is the problem, let me know if you want the sensor!
Title: Re: Speedometer Not Working!
Post by: russoducati on August 05, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
Hi there guys im new to the forum, I think I have the same problem as Fergus... my needle doesnt move at all but also that side of the gage doesnt light up either. Odly enough though the Odometer still works fine, but the left "button" doesnt work  :-\ Im thinking the needle may have just broke popped off like Fergus's... My biggest problem though is how do i get the dash apart? Do i just pry at it? Havent seen any detailed instructions on how to do this. Im fairly mechanically inclined, and do all my own maintenance on my cars but this is my first bike and I dont want to just pry it apart and lose the tach in the process lol. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have searched lots of forums and havent seen this exact combo of problems. Right now im using a bicycle speedometer that only works to about 55 before it gets wonky