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Title: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Tricknology on July 20, 2013, 05:37:50 PM
Finally waded through all the email updates from my motogp.com subscription and saw   this.   (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/Hayden+to+leave+Ducati+Team+at+end+of+year)   
Hopefully he gets a decent ride for 2014. He deserves it after getting such sub-par bikes from Ducati.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on July 20, 2013, 05:45:11 PM
much discussion of this in the Silly Season thread.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ducpainter on July 20, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
psssst...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=63533.msg1186923#msg1186923 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=63533.msg1186923#msg1186923)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Tricknology on July 21, 2013, 04:39:21 AM
Well, crap. That's what I get for being in such a breathless rush to post. Derp.  [roll]


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: fastwin on July 21, 2013, 08:15:52 AM
Eh, done the sme thing a hundred times. [roll] My middle name is "derby".

I like "The Kid" and I hope he lands something decent. Don't see that happening in GP though.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: weemonster on July 21, 2013, 08:45:08 AM
Finally waded through all the email updates from my motogp.com subscription and saw   this.   (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/Hayden+to+leave+Ducati+Team+at+end+of+year)   
Hopefully he gets a decent ride for 2014. He deserves it after getting such sub-par bikes from Ducati.

Hes not that great anyways.
Hes the "proof" that the Honda is so good any numpty can win on it.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Triple J on July 21, 2013, 09:36:31 AM
Hes not that great anyways.
Hes the "proof" that the Honda is so good any numpty can win on it.

Except Dovi and Pedro, right?  [roll] They must not be very good either.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: kopfjäger on July 21, 2013, 06:13:00 PM
Hes not that great anyways.
Hes the "proof" that the Honda is so good any numpty can win on it.

 [roll]


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on July 23, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
Hes not that great anyways.
Hes the "proof" that the Honda is so good any numpty can win on it.

uh huh.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: triangleforge on July 30, 2013, 06:27:29 PM
The line from Ducati:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/29/ducati-boss-paolo-ciabatti-explains-decision-to-release-nicky-hayden/ (http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/29/ducati-boss-paolo-ciabatti-explains-decision-to-release-nicky-hayden/)

Sounds like there's a Ducati Superbike offer (though maybe an informal one, without all the zeroes filled out, much less the rest of the contrace) on the table.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on July 31, 2013, 04:11:58 AM
The line from Ducati:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/29/ducati-boss-paolo-ciabatti-explains-decision-to-release-nicky-hayden/ (http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/07/29/ducati-boss-paolo-ciabatti-explains-decision-to-release-nicky-hayden/)

Sounds like there's a Ducati Superbike offer (though maybe an informal one, without all the zeroes filled out, much less the rest of the contrace) on the table.

the way I read that was as a potential replacement for Pirro possibly....from this bit alone...

"....“In the past, Ducati had some good results with Nicky, but we were never able to achieve any race wins. There is a cycle in the sporting life of athletes, and I think we all, including him, need to look at a different opportunity.”....Will Hayden continue to be involved in development of the current machine? “Yes,” said Ciabatti. “We really value his input and effort. This bike can be improved....."


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: triangleforge on September 03, 2013, 10:39:35 AM
This just in:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130903h.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130903h.htm)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 03, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
guys on the aprilia wsbk team, "man i hope he doesn't test our bike next"


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on September 03, 2013, 11:36:33 AM
This just in:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130903h.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130903h.htm)

isn't that shot from the COTA Panigale release junket?


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 03, 2013, 11:42:05 AM
that pic isn't intended to be a shot from the test.  just says that he will test.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Blackout on September 04, 2013, 06:04:22 AM
I'd rather see him on something competitive... unless they can work the bugs out of the Panigale.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on September 04, 2013, 10:40:06 AM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130904b69.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130904b69.htm)

HRRRRMMMM....like a suitor checking the available brides...


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 04, 2013, 10:45:20 AM
most definitely what he's doing :)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Triple J on September 04, 2013, 11:23:13 AM
I like Ducati, but I want to see him on the Ape!  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: webspoke on September 06, 2013, 06:26:34 PM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130904b69.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130904b69.htm)

HRRRRMMMM....like a suitor checking the available brides...

Oh yes....  Other than the small crash part
http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130906yank.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130906yank.htm)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: duccarlos on September 07, 2013, 09:01:35 AM
 [thumbsup]

Still way down on power. They need to fix that.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: wantingaduc on September 11, 2013, 08:57:59 AM
While I'm not 100% sure about the condition of the WSBK team and the ability of the Panagale to run at the front of the pack in WSBK, I sure hope that's where Nicky winds up.

I think that if the machine is competitive he'll do really well there, and I'd love to see him do a "triple crown" championship and win a few more titles before the hangs up his leathers.

jimi


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: duccarlos on September 13, 2013, 03:16:02 PM
MotoGP announcers seem to believe that Nicky will be in MotoGP next year. Either ART or LCR.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Jester on September 13, 2013, 11:15:07 PM
MotoGP announcers seem to believe that Nicky will be in MotoGP next year. Either ART or LCR.

I would hope he stays.  Never leave the party, as re-entry is nearly impossible.  WSBK will always be waiting down the line.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 14, 2013, 09:27:16 AM
most recently just seemed to be a matter of Lucio finding the rest of nicky's money..


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ducpainter on September 14, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
most recently just seemed to be a matter of Lucio finding the rest of nicky's money..
Has American Honda gotten involved to date?


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: duccarlos on September 15, 2013, 05:04:26 AM
With 4 rounds left, we still have no clue other than he checked out the ART. LCR is running out of time.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on September 15, 2013, 07:32:22 AM
Has American Honda gotten involved to date?

it has been reported by SBKPlanet that they are still digging in the couch cushions for the coin to go ahead with that prospect.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ducpainter on September 15, 2013, 07:54:31 AM
it has been reported by SBKPlanet that they are still digging in the couch cushions for the coin to go ahead with that prospect.
With all the coin they've saved by not competing in AMA they should have that lying on the floor.  ;)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: thought on September 15, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/aleix-espargaro-nicky-hayden-silly-season/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/aleix-espargaro-nicky-hayden-silly-season/)

Its looking like Nicky will be on the new Aspar ART bike... I wonder if they can improve it enough to compete with the production racers next year.  I've seen rumors of seamless transmission and penumatic valves added... but looking at the current gas usage of the RSV4, I'm pretty iffy if they can make it work as a factory entry.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Triple J on September 16, 2013, 07:41:14 AM
I'd be shocked if the Aspar Aprilias run as non-MSMA entries. Their electronics are one of their major strengths, and rumor is that the spec ecu software is shit. They just have to figure out the fuel economy, as I believe they get a few extra motors the 1st year as a new MSMA entry.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ab on September 16, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
It's Cal's era now at Ducati with his old buddy Dovi.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 17, 2013, 11:01:28 AM
It's Cal's era now at Ducati with his old buddy Dovi.

yep. http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917pl.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917pl.htm)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on September 17, 2013, 11:05:57 AM
yep. http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917pl.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917pl.htm)

I read that as just short of being a scathing indictment....


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Speeddog on September 17, 2013, 11:10:26 AM
yep. http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917pl.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Sep/130917pl.htm)

That's just petty BS.

I'm embarrassed to be Ducati owner.

 >:(


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Speeddog on September 17, 2013, 11:13:31 AM
I read that as just short of being a scathing indictment....

For Nicky, those statements were definitely that.

They deserve something more along the lines of what Cal would say.
I expect they'll get be getting some of that in the not too distant future.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Raux on September 17, 2013, 11:20:55 AM
did you see the interview where Ducati told Hayden "sorry, we don't have enough parts to build a new bike for you to test"
what a stupid move. the guy has MORE experience than any other rider on a Ducati GP bike.
guess they didn't want him saying, "it still sucks"



Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 18, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
did you see the interview where Ducati told Hayden "sorry, we don't have enough parts to build a new bike for you to test"
what a stupid move. the guy has MORE experience than any other rider on a Ducati GP bike.
guess they didn't want him saying, "it still sucks"



that might be linked a few posts above..  ;)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ab on September 19, 2013, 04:22:40 AM
I mean from Ducati perspective, Hayden is leaving so of course priority should go to Dovi.  Yes, they should have told him instead of BS.  But still, it's part of the racing game.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on September 19, 2013, 02:07:19 PM
I mean from Ducati perspective, Hayden is leaving so of course priority should go to Dovi.  Yes, they should have told him instead of BS.  But still, it's part of the racing game.

yup.  and completely normal, as noted in the article.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ducpainter on September 19, 2013, 05:24:37 PM
yup.  and completely normal, as noted in the article.
soooo...

bullshit is normal. ;D


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on September 20, 2013, 05:14:39 AM
soooo...

bullshit is normal. ;D

yup...and apparently Marlboro is getting rather tired of it....

http://www.insella.it/news/motogp-ducati-valentino-rossi-philip-morris (http://www.insella.it/news/motogp-ducati-valentino-rossi-philip-morris)

google translate is your friend as it is in Eye-Talian
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.insella.it/news/motogp-ducati-valentino-rossi-philip-morris (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://www.insella.it/news/motogp-ducati-valentino-rossi-philip-morris)
(if this link works, it might be easier for some)


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: kopfjäger on October 19, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Back to Honda.  [popcorn]


Title: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: ab on October 20, 2013, 05:22:45 PM
So is Scott Redding moving to the same team as Hayden?  Fan of Scott Redding in moto2.  Not sure who I am going to be fan of next season in moto2 other than Terrol.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
AFAIK, Redding will be on a production racer Honda at Gresini, next to Bautista (on a Satellite Honda).


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: gm2 on October 22, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
Gresini, yes.  Not sure which flavor RC he gets.


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: zooom on October 22, 2013, 11:02:53 AM
Gresini, yes.  Not sure which flavor RC he gets.

I think Bautista keeps the "satelite" machine and Reding gets the RCV1000R "customer" machine


Title: Re: Hayden leaving Ducati. The end of an era?
Post by: GuyPike on January 25, 2014, 03:34:35 AM
It's the end of a miserable era for Nicky, Ducati will suffer on for a long,time!


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