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http://www.infullgear.com/blog/35813/ducati-899-2014-indiscrezioni-esclusive-novita-di-motore-e-forcellone.html (http://www.infullgear.com/blog/35813/ducati-899-2014-indiscrezioni-esclusive-novita-di-motore-e-forcellone.html)


and a google translate for those of you who don't speak the mother tongue

Ducati has traced the lines of the heir of the 848, a motion of "half" displacement that followed partially as seen on the 1199 Panigale, with a few caveats that can make us reflect on the future of the House Bolognese road.

The rumors and reports gathered exclusively by IFG are substantial and structural make up the puzzle of what we can say, there will be a motorcycle designed for racing by virtue of the FIM regulations that restrict the airspace of a twin.

If they wanted to build a Ducati Supersport "Stock" should opt for an engine from 799 cubic centimeters and deal with the technical commissions, so it was not: the next motion will be called Ducati 899 and will have that capacity.

The engine, of course 90 ° L-Twin engine, it will be completely new but built according to what has been seen on 1199. Of about 155 horsepower maximum power limiter set at 11,500 rpm.

Similarly, for 50%, philosophy telaistica: the engine will be carrier-type. The biggest news about the swingarm Ducati abandoned the single-sided in favor of a new dual-sided "banana"-structure already used by Aprilia.

All eyes at EICMA 2013, the International Motorcycle Exhibition to be held in November at the Fiera Milano-Rho: Ducati 899 could be the real surprise this year, only to be marketed in 2014.

countdown to sketches by Oberdon....

That would be... a 900-class 4-valver.  With Panigale bodywork?  Yowsers, that could be a hot commodity.  Would make an excellent replacement for my 900SS (with roughly double the power).

Honestly, the output of an 1199 scares me.  Love the Formula 1 looks, but it's expensive and more power than I can probably work with safely.  155HP out of an 899 version would be *more* than enough for me.

and I venture to guess that's what Ducati is thinking too

looks like they decided not to fight for the Supersport series, and after the failure so far of the SBK I can see why.

I would venture to guess the 899 is going to sell like hotcakes. Cheaper than the 1199 and still more power than pretty much everyone knows what to do with  If they can get the looks right. We all know what happened with the last DSS SBK.......(Though its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/oped/ducati-superbike-first-year-sales-analysis/))

The Desmosedici was insanely popular. Still is.
 :)

Touche good sir.  :P

 Wondering if the DSS is a price point decision like on the M696, or a new better design? I've seen other rumor pics of a 899, but the pics show SSA like the standard Panigale.

I have a hard time believing they'd put a DSS on it. Everything is done for the SSS, why change...because it's too pretty?

I also have a hard time believing it will make 155 hp out of the box. I guess it could...at the crank, at sea level, and with race gas.  ;)

I'm sure it would sell like crazy though if it looks like an 1199. That's a good looking moto!

If they are going to race it maybe it's a weight issue in using the sssa

other than their own challenge like the 848 challenge what catagory would an 899 motor fit into

this just appeared on FB

(http://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/971822_565601566821663_1005814776_n.jpg)

 ???  Is the SSA so expensive that Ducati must make a DSS to keep costs down? 

Probably just an effective way to cut costs. I think fabricating the new style SSS is expensive.

The problem is everyone will want to pay several thousand less for the 899 (?) than the 1199, but the motor doesn't cost Ducati any less. Therefore, they have to make up the difference with a bunch of little corners being cut all over the bike. A good example was the 848 frame originally didn't have an atachment arm for a steering damper like the 1098 did...a small detail, but a couple less steps in manufacturing the frame which probably saved a few dollars. Cheaper suspension, heavier wheels, non LED lights (???), etc. to get the price down.

I think ditching the SSS is a mistake, as it's an important piece in why the 1199 look good. I think consumers might be disappointed seeing the SSS on the 1199 sitting right next to the 899 with its DSS. What do I know though...there's probably a reason why Aprilia and BMW don't make middleweights...tough segment.

Our insurance agents would be willing to help offset that comparative cost!

I like the idea/concept but frankly they should have done a new design IMO.  The Panigale is beautiful but why strip it's "status" with a middleweight that looks almost identical?  I would rather save extra pennies and have the big Pani

did anyone say that of the 1198/848 range?

I did but then again I'm not a fan of that design   The Pani is sexy, maybe more so than the trip 9 but not quite the Tamburini.....just my opinion

my point is, there's always been a middleweight/big bike  in the SBK range once they went up to the 916 era SBK.

and it's always been said the middleweights were easier to use on the street (no FHE)

that being said, there's never been major differences like the new Pani has (ie DSS vs SSS)

minor trim stuff, like forks/steering damper/rear shock/wheels/calipers/clutch (only with the 848 era)

just seems odd they would do that with the 899

Maybe more so then the 999? No question more so. The 999 is the worst looking SBK they have ever produced.

An 899 will be easier to ride on the street and hopefully won't run so hot. The heat off the 1199 is truly ridiculous.

I personally like the trip 9, has appeal other bikes dont have.  As for running hot.......all the pregnant doging  :P.  ride a Harley in 100 degree traffic, no comparison

Have you tried an 1199?

IMO, there's no such thing as a Ducati SBK that is good on the street...unless the street doesn't have traffic or stoplights. The 848 threw off a ton of heat...I can only imagine the 1199.  :P

i seriously doubt it has anything to do with cost of manufacture

its about making a big difference between the 2 bikes

you want the better looking bike then you pay the premium to have it

no but I've spoke to at least one person that said they would never own one again.

Yes and not for me.  Now back to the "mini" Grom

Doubtful since they've never done anything to distinguish the middleweight from the big bike in the past.

< That frying pan avatar is the result of riding my 998.

A month ago I looked at buying an 1199 partially due to the underbelly exhaust.  Not coming to terms with the CL seller I went away thinking "maybe someday soon Ducati will put the design to a mid-size".  At this point I'd have to say I'm all in.

Well u guys seen this ? Guess its confirmed ...

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/rumors/ducati-899-panigale-spy-photo/#more-46538 (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/rumors/ducati-899-panigale-spy-photo/#more-46538)

This I dig http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-streetfighter-1199-concept/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-streetfighter-1199-concept/)