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Title: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 06:56:12 AM How many of you would be interested?
The goal would be to provide a complete kit with the button, clips and shims for less than what TPO sells them for. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: stopintime on August 21, 2013, 07:42:28 AM I already have full floaters, so for me the deal would be to get new buttons AND a new alu carrier, because that's worn worse than the discs.
Never mind me - the point is that full floating brakes are SOOO much better - cooling and brake precision [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] Do it !!!!! Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 08:02:34 AM how much cheaper? [evil]
And can you make them for the chinese rotors? Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 08:22:34 AM how much cheaper? [evil] And can you make them for the chinese rotors? Price depends on qty. Are the chinesium buttons the same size as the Ducati ones? Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 08:25:43 AM Price depends on qty. Are the chinesium buttons the same size as the Ducati ones? aha, you ask hard question, grasshopper. no idea. i should look into that. i have a feeling they are just straight out copies though. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Skybarney on August 21, 2013, 09:19:10 AM I would love to convert the fronts on my 2013 Evo. No clue about fitment though.
Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 10:42:31 AM I would love to convert the fronts on my 2013 Evo. No clue about fitment though. I don't know about the 13 EVO but I'm guessing it's the same as the others. TPO lists the same part number for every Ducati I checked (and there are a bunch I didn't look at) Monster 750 (carbureted), '96 - '01 Hypermotard 1100, '08 - '11 Sportclassic Sport 1000, '06 - '09 SuperSport 900 (carbureted), '91 - '98 SuperSport 900 / 900SSie (injected), '99 - '02 Monster 1100, '09 Monster 900ie (fuel Injected), '00 - '02 All the same button. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Speeddog on August 21, 2013, 11:09:10 AM I'm in for a 1-disk set (10 pieces).
Likely more, depending on price. I'd prefer hard ano in black. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 11:26:29 AM Hard anodize is a possibility but it's ungodly expensive. 100pc qty is $2.00ea my cost. If we can't get the qty up enough it will be normal anodize in black (black matches everything)
Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 06:43:12 PM Hard anodize is a possibility but it's ungodly expensive. 100pc qty is $2.00ea my cost. If we can't get the qty up enough it will be normal anodize in black (black matches everything) What about SFL coating? solid film lubricant? Seems like free floaters need all the help they can get for surface protection, and regular anodize will probably not stand up to the rubbing Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 06:51:04 PM What about SFL coating? solid film lubricant? Seems like free floaters need all the help they can get for surface protection, and regular anodize will probably not stand up to the rubbing I don't know anything about SFL. Might have found an alternate source for the hard anodize. Honestly, I don't think hard anodize will stand up to it either, based on my experience with the tpo button when I pried the e clip off with a little screw driver. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 06:58:16 PM probably true, they have to be a close fit so there is not any mis-distribution of weight.
sfl is great, you can get piston skirts coated with it as well as lifters or any non precision part that might rub. when i built vw drag engines, id get the piston crowns ceramic coated and the skirts sfl coated. they would last 10x as long Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 21, 2013, 07:08:59 PM Pm incoming
Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Howie on August 21, 2013, 07:22:22 PM I had Alth rotors on my bike, semi floaters, but much lighter springs than the OEM rotors. One carrier wore badly prematurely, enough that it was a full floater plus. Buttons were fine. Same with the rotor on the other side that was still good. Makes me think hard anodized is good enough. Better to have button wear than carrier wear anyway, IMO.
Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 21, 2013, 08:27:11 PM Good point Howie.
Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Fergus on August 22, 2013, 07:03:53 AM I voted 'tire-kicker.' I had to look up what they were. Will they fit my 620?
-Fergs Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 22, 2013, 08:43:10 AM I voted 'tire-kicker.' I had to look up what they were. Will they fit my 620? -Fergs They most certainly would [thumbsup] Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: stopintime on August 22, 2013, 08:53:10 AM They most certainly would [thumbsup] Hmm.. aren't the 300mm disc'ed 620 discs thinner? (if that's what F has) Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 22, 2013, 08:58:24 AM Hmm.. aren't the 300mm disc'ed 620 discs thinner? (if that's what F has) I would assume the 300 mm discs to be a different animal. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 22, 2013, 09:55:46 AM Hmm.. aren't the 300mm disc'ed 620 discs thinner? (if that's what F has) I'm just going off TPO's website. All the years of 620's they list take the same part number button, which is the same part number as all the others I listed. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Charlief on August 24, 2013, 03:07:45 AM I'll take a set.
How many sets would you need to make it worth your time? I know another person who wants a set but doesn't post much. Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 24, 2013, 03:10:16 AM I think we can start to play ball around 100 pcs.
Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 24, 2013, 04:57:42 AM 100 pcs or 100 sets?
100 pcs would just be 12 or so sets, depending on the rotor. Some of the older brembo rotors have 10 or 12 buttons (same buttons on the 300mm pantah floater rotors) Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: Monsterlover on August 24, 2013, 05:40:48 AM 100 pcs or 100 sets? 100 pcs would just be 12 or so sets, depending on the rotor. Some of the older brembo rotors have 10 or 12 buttons (same buttons on the 300mm pantah floater rotors) 100 pcs. 100 sets would really set an attractive price point :D Title: Re: If there was a group buy on floating rotor buttons. . . Post by: ducatiz on August 24, 2013, 06:14:21 AM 100 pcs. 100 sets would really set an attractive price point :D The snowflake rotors have 10 buttons each, so that's 20 for a single bike. Surely you can get 5 ppl to buy in. I'm a tire kicker but if they were hard anodized, i probably would be far more inclined. I might pull one of the chinesium rotors off and one off an old brembo to compare them. the ONLY downside of those chi rotors is the buttons, they are practically fixed mount. |