After months of fighting with ohlins my new kit finally arrived! Just put it on, and went to turn the key... nothing. No Problem, says I. Attach the charger! No.
Battery is so dead that the charger doesn't even register that it is a battery. voltmeter gets nothing either. Time for new battery!
Where do you get yours? Any brand you love? Help?
Sounds like a good opportunity to convert it to kickstart!
Yuasa YT12B-BS
Buy Yuasa oem they have more cca than the generic equal.
When mine dies I'll be all over a ballistic li battery. Doesn't leak, experiences very little charge loss at rest and is much lighter. Total win in my book.
+1 I've had a Ballistic on mine for something like 11 months now and it's been awesome. Never had it on a charger since.
shorai
I'm using the 8 cell from Alien Motion
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/applications/motorcycles.htm (http://www.odysseybatteries.com/applications/motorcycles.htm)
Just a thought.
I've had one of these for a couple of years, no problems
http://www.motobattbatteries.com/motobatt-mbt12b4.html (http://www.motobattbatteries.com/motobatt-mbt12b4.html)
I second the Shorai. I have it on my S2R1000. Never had a problem getting it to start. A little more expensive than Yuasa but over 6lbs lighter...
Quote from: NAKID on September 23, 2013, 10:09:49 AM
I second the Shorai. I have it on my S2R1000. Never had a problem getting it to start. A little more expensive than Yuasa but over 6lbs lighter...
^^^^THIS!!!!!!
Quote from: Ddan on September 22, 2013, 05:07:10 AM
I've had one of these for a couple of years, no problems
http://www.motobattbatteries.com/motobatt-mbt12b4.html (http://www.motobattbatteries.com/motobatt-mbt12b4.html)
I too have been running a motobatt. No problems at all.
Just be careful installing. The "universal" quality of this battery â€" the fact that it has two sets of terminals â€" unfortunately allowed me to install it backwards.
Fried the starting circuit of my ECU...
Obviously this is MY FAULT, and not the battery's... but if I had purchased a non-universal YUASA, It wouldn't have happened.
That being said, the Motobatt works perfectly.
I like my Shorai but it took 2 tries to get a non-dud. Customer service was amazing about sending out the replacement. So cute and light...makes the OEM look like such a pig I couldn't stand to go back. Buy it at Leatherup.com, you can use the 15% off coupons they regularly have floating around (Google)
never buy lithium battery, they are not ready for the market. (I have bad experience with them now)
It is balistic that was mentioned above. Red 8 cell battery. Voltmeter was showing 12-13V at delivery but it was not able to start engine. Had to charge it first time(ads says it is ready to use after purchase). 3 month later(now) it can not start engine with 13V shown on dashboard. Have to recharge this shit. My old 4 y.o. lead-acid battery was good and never need to recharge even after 5month winter, I just wanted something modern. It was bad idea.
Quote from: kokis on September 28, 2013, 06:52:03 PM
never buy lithium battery, they are not ready for the market. (I have bad experience with them now)
It is balistic that was mentioned above. Red 8 cell battery. Voltmeter was showing 12-13V at delivery but it was not able to start engine. Had to charge it first time(ads says it is ready to use after purchase). 3 month later(now) it can not start engine with 13V shown on dashboard. Have to recharge this shit. My old 4 y.o. lead-acid battery was good and never need to recharge even after 5month winter, I just wanted something modern. It was bad idea.
you probably just developed a dead cell. Running on only 7 cells would not give you enough cold cranking amps to turn the motor over.
High CCA makes it easier to turn a motor over, the more/ larger the cells the higher the amperage.
Dead cells is common regardless of lead acid or litium iron.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E3X0XDY/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E3X0XDY/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii)
I got one of these a while back, 2 years?
$45 with a small trickle charger, can't beat it. I think it's the same on your bike.
In reply to kokis.
Such batteries require 14+ volts to be fully charged. They are pretty flat at 13V. Think of them as 13V batteries. Great technology, but require correct charging for what they are.
I like the Shorai batteries. They like 14-14.8V. Some of these batteries prefer a specialzed charger.
Quoteyou probably just developed a dead cell
I did nothing. [bang]
Quote from: koko64 on September 28, 2013, 09:08:33 PM
In reply to kokis.
Such batteries require 14+ volts to be fully charged. They are pretty flat at 13V. Think of them as 13V batteries. Great technology, but require correct charging for what they are.
I like the Shorai batteries. They like 14-14.8V. Some of these batteries prefer a specialzed charger.
what he said.
on a lead acid, dead flat is something along 10v.
on a lifepo4, its closer to 12.7. YOu may see 12.7 and think thats fine, and you keep cranking it and all your doing is throwing it deeper in the hole. personally, i had a ballistic, and went back to a lead acid. I commute in the winter and all the cranking on and off and on and off really kills LIFEPO4 batteries, especially if you have to spend a good amount of time warming it up first. if you dont ride in the winter, or dont want ot shell out for an oversized battery then this may not be a problem.
Quote from: ducatiz on September 28, 2013, 08:07:49 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E3X0XDY/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E3X0XDY/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii)
I got one of these a while back, 2 years?
$45 with a small trickle charger, can't beat it. I think it's the same on your bike.
Dang, that's a great deal.
Again, I've had my Ballistic for close to a year now. Never had it on a trickle charger, I commute approximately 1 mile to work daily, I ride my bike in temps as low 30 degrees F, and I keep it in an unheated garage. Bike has never not started because of the battery and I've cranked it quite hard after multiple jet changes when I couldn't get it to start because of fuel delivery. Still fires the bike over just as fast right now as the day it arrived.
I also need to add, in regards to Kokis' comments on Ballistic and lithium batteries, that Ballistic recommends a 12 cell for any Monster larger than the 796. I don't know which model you have, but could that be the root of your bad experience?
The OP and his 2007 S2R1000 would need the 12 cell.
Looks like I was wrong about Ballistic battery and have to take my words back.
After test and attempts to start bike I have to say that battery keeps 13+V and 9A and its power is pretty solid. Probably I have not battery related problem in my bike that prevents engine start. Will update.
I bought a battery local from batteries plus just to have it immediately. Terrible idea, i have to keep it on the tender overnight, or it is dead by morning. Just ordered the Yuasa, and going to return this other one. freaking garbage.
Quote from: kokis on October 03, 2013, 02:02:45 AM
Looks like I was wrong about Ballistic battery and have to take my words back.
After test and attempts to start bike I have to say that battery keeps 13+V and 9A and its power is pretty solid. Probably I have not battery related problem in my bike that prevents engine start. Will update.
I had similar symptoms last fall and since I found the fix, I tell anyone with similar symptoms to try what I had to do. Check the three wires (mine were yellow) that run from your alternator cover to your regulator/rectifier. Mine were burnt and melted so bad that at one point all three wires were touching each other. This was a sign that the rectifier had gone bad. I fixed the wires, replaced the rectifier and I've been golden ever since.
While at my local Duck dealer I mentioned that my Bimota battery was original, and prolly 5 years old, so I was thinking of replacing it, butt it was holding a charge really well. He said that the Yuasas seemed to be good for up to 7 years if taken care of, and that has been my and my friends experience over the years. The key is taking care of them, I think.
Quote from: ducatiz on September 28, 2013, 08:07:49 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E3X0XDY/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00E3X0XDY/ref=ya_aw_oh_pii)
I got one of these a while back, 2 years?
$45 with a small trickle charger, can't beat it. I think it's the same on your bike.
Wow, super deal. Does it hold up? [coffee]
Wow! 480 CCA ... at a price though [evil]
http://antigravitybatteries.com/yt12bs-16/ (http://antigravitybatteries.com/yt12bs-16/)
Minor detail...
CCA and CA are not the same.
4. CCA, CA, AH and RC. What are these all about? These are the standards that most battery companies use to rate the output and capacity of a battery.
Cold cranking amps (CCA) is a measurement of the number of amps a battery can deliver at 0 ° F for 30 seconds and not drop below 7.2 volts. So a high CCA battery rating is especially important in starting battery applications, and in cold weather.This measurement is not particularly important in Deep cycle batteries, though it is the most commonly 'known' battery measurement.
CA is cranking amps measured at 32 degrees F.
Corrected.
The battery I have now has lasted about 4 years. It still cranks but doesn't want to light the engine, so its time for a new one. The only issue Ive had with it, is its about a centimeter or so too high and causes the positive battery terminal to rub on the seat pan. How is the fit on the Shorai?
Never mind. It appears that they don't make one for a 2000 Monster.
Sure they do! They are smaller than the stock ones, and come with foam pieces to shim them into the battery box. You need to check the conversion tables, but several different models will work.
Yo MD;
You need the Shorai LFX18A1-BS12, that's the recommendation directly from the Shorai rep I worked with. The very best deal you'll find is here:
http://www.leatherup.com/p/Street-Bike-Batteries/Shorai-LFX-LFX18A1-Lithium-Standard-Battery/330917.html (http://www.leatherup.com/p/Street-Bike-Batteries/Shorai-LFX-LFX18A1-Lithium-Standard-Battery/330917.html)
Using coupon code FACEBOOK11 for an addition $17 off, $153 out the door with free shipping.
OK Thanks.
Quote from: Buck Naked on April 27, 2014, 11:17:08 AM
Yo MD;
You need the Shorai LFX18A1-BS12, that's the recommendation directly from the Shorai rep I worked with. The very best deal you'll find is here:
http://www.leatherup.com/p/Street-Bike-Batteries/Shorai-LFX-LFX18A1-Lithium-Standard-Battery/330917.html (http://www.leatherup.com/p/Street-Bike-Batteries/Shorai-LFX-LFX18A1-Lithium-Standard-Battery/330917.html)
Using coupon code FACEBOOK11 for an addition $17 off, $153 out the door with free shipping.
I recently got one of these for my 2000 750 as well and really recommend it -- although I went with the LFX18
L1-BS12 so I didn't have to swap the -/+ terminal setup the bike has. Amazing kick for such a little and light battery. Out of the package I thought it was joke... I was way wrong.
I have had an LFX 18 on my S2R 800 for 3 years now. No issues.
I am usning a LFX14 !!!
250 grams lighter again at 750gms.. Light is right.
The older 900s seem to need the bigger LFX 18 battery to help with the old starter ratio I guess. I had a 14 in my high comp M900, and it started it ok, but the 18 worked easier. Especially after a few squirts of the accelerator pump in winter.
I put the 14 in the Gixxer track bike. With no lights its topped up always at 14.8 max Volts.
Quote from: koko64 on April 30, 2014, 07:26:12 PM
250 grams lighter again at 750gms.. Light is right.
The older 900s seem to need the bigger LFX 18 battery to help with the old starter ratio I guess. I had a 14 in my high comp M900, and it started it ok, but the 18 worked easier. Especially after a few squirts of the accelerator pump in winter.
I put the 14 in the Gixxer track bike. With no lights its topped up always at 14.8 max Volts.
Remember that cold here is about 20°C/72°F . . .
I originally had the 14 in my 900-swapped M750. Worked fine until I...did something dumb and fried it. When I contacted Shorai for a warranty replacement they upgraded me to the 18 at their behest (and cost). They were fantastic to deal with. Sent me the replacement right away with a return label for the 14...I didn't actually tell them what I'd done either. So I would say the 14 is fine. Motowheels actually recommends the 14.
Quote from: Buck Naked on April 30, 2014, 07:58:57 PM
I originally had the 14 in my 900-swapped M750. Worked fine until I...did something dumb and fried it. When I contacted Shorai for a warranty replacement they upgraded me to the 18 at their behest (and cost). They were fantastic to deal with. Sent me the replacement right away with a return label for the 14...I didn't actually tell them what I'd done either. So I would say the 14 is fine. Motowheels actually recommends the 14.
the thing was that the 14 was "having" issues in 'colder' weather so they started recommending the 18 and took the 14 out of the list for Ducati . . .
I don't have any real cold temps here (started the bike from a non heated garage on a 35 degree F morning a few times and no issues. I've have the battery for over a year with not a single problem. Would recommend it over and over.
Got it from MonsterParts.