Ducati Monster Forum

Anyone else seen the new 2014 Monster 1200S?
It's without question, the first monster since the S4RS to make me sit up and take note. What a sexy design & the 1198 testastretta motor to top it off.

Whilst asked regularly when I'm going to update my bike & always responding with some witty quip to the effect of 'when something better comes out', that time may be near.....

Any other thoughts or opinions out there?

http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/monster_1200_s/index.do (http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/monster_1200_s/index.do)

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I have been trying to have a look at it but the Ducati site is sooooooo slow.

It does look pretty good but I am playing the long game and waiting until the S4Rs is a classic and starts reaching the sort of coin a GT is currently fetching.  ;D [laugh] [cheeky]

http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/index.do (http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/index.do)   [thumbsup]

I'm on the fence. It has too many similarities with the Diavel from many angles. It may grow on me but I don't see me parting with my cash for one any time soon.

Love your optimisim Matt!!
Let me know if you see any signs of that occuring.......

Refer to this post in 30 years Dan and I'll let you know.  [cheeky]

I agree with Dan, this is the first Monster since the early 2000's (the S2r/S4rs) that stirs me...

I like the fact that the headlight/tank are very iconic and the safety (ABS/riding modes) has been brought up to modern specifications.

I give it 2 thumbs up - would love a ride on one!  [thumbsup]

^^  The Spider, he lives   :o

Yeah I agree - the rear wheel looks a little too far set back, like a drag bike.  Upfront a bit too much technology - where is the "nakedness"?

I love my S2R... [Dolph]

Not my cup o' tea that's for sure. It has too many Diavel design features. It's like a Diavel went to Jenny Craig.

Interesting feedback. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own take on it, I guess that's why Ducati's entire range of bikes is so broad.

As for the thoughts around the similarities to the Diavel, I kind of think of it in a similar way to the design trend at Land Rover.
First they bring out the Evoque, followed by the Range Rover & now the Range Rover Sport - all with family traits with very similar looking headlight design arrangements. You know they're from the same family of vehicles, but they all have a very specific individuality.

If this is the direction that Ducati is taking with this bike and the Diavel, I'm ok with it.

^^ This.

MMM...... does look busy

    Give me air cooled old skool anyday

        And I'm with Matty, waiting till my monster surpasses its original purchase price.





                                    Mmick

Reviving this to see if its growing on anyone else.  ;D

I would like to get a look at one in real life as I know things can look different in photos. I've only just picked up on the rear wheel being so far back. Its more prominent in some angles. Makes me think of all those stretched drag bikes with extended swing arms.

meh it's a poor man's Diavel - may as well call it the 1200B - for Belmont...

Don't you mean the Diavel Superlight ... apparently the Monster is about 30kg lighter ... that normally means it would be more expensive!

Betty, once again gold.  :)  They could paint it yellow and put a big number 1 on the tank with a limited edition plate...  ;D

I guess at the end of the day there really is nowhere Ducati can go for the Monster.  They have gone through all the evolutions they possibly have without deviating far from the original concept.  I still love Ducati, but in my opinion the S2R/S4R was the pinnacle of the design.  If I am in a position to purchase another Ducati, it will be of that S2R/S4R vintage, or a Diavel.

Be I bold as to say the chapter should be closed on the Monster?

Long live the Monster!

saw one at the QLD expo today, and in real life its quite nice, the rear wheel is bland with approval wording cast into it which looks cheap, the small headlight which i wasn't a fan of looks good, the seat looks nice, plenty of pillion room which is important to me and It's dimensions look appropriate.

the lower power output compared to the diavel is due to the smaller headers, i'd put the full termi system on it, along with a fly screen and a carbon hugger to get rid of the stupid huge rear guard!

Got to sit on it and have a feel. Very different to the 1100. For a 5'6 rider it is more upright with wider bars. The seat and tank shape will keep the 'boys' happy.


Yeah not quite sure why they fitted that rear hugger, haven't seen it in any pictures! The Ducati representative didn't have a clue either. But the particular representative I was talking to was at the launch in Spain and his opinion was the lower HP was to bring up the low down torque which he claims is phenomenal right from the get go!

Overall I loved it, looks great in person!

Considering I haven't been able to see what you guys saw ... would I be correct in assuming it may be some sort of ADR compliance 'solution'?

Do you have any pics to share?

Sorry Betty all the pics are on my brothers camera but yes it looks to be an ADR afterthought over kill not unlike this

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truck fender (https://www.flickr.com/photos/119072382@N04/13367836925/) by scoober11031 (https://www.flickr.com/people/119072382@N04/), on Flickr

from swing arm pivot to behind the mud cutter!

 [puke]

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Miscellaneous/th1/Ducati-Monster-1200-S-2.jpg (http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Miscellaneous/th1/Ducati-Monster-1200-S-2.jpg)
http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/index.do (http://www.ducati.com.au/bikes/monster/index.do)

The 1200s on display at the moto expo in Brisbane had an extra guard not pictured in either of those links that looked pretty much the same as the picture I posted running from front to back over the top of the tyre. The whole top section of tyre.

Easily removed and replaced with a normal size and shaped hugger though as pictured above.

it would be to meet adrs

rear wheel must be covered draw a 45 degree angle from the rear axle with 30kg on the seat

to stop stones flying out i guess

The rear hugger definantly looks like that picture of that truck guard  [thumbsdown]
a quick add on to meet the Australian adrs is all can say [thumbsdown]

Did see the bikes on the production line last month for the US market,and one in the factory show room.
I think their on a winner with this one, depending on the price  20,000 euro in Italy :P

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Ducati factory show room no crappy hugger only the stupid little mud flap thingy.
the mirrors look ok and the new clear plastic reserviors arn't bad either :)


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I saw it at the expo too and thought it was porn on wheels, except for that rear guard, which would be easily removable.  The guard kind of felt flimsy too, but that is probably because it is an add on for ADR as said above.

Better get that Tri colour on bike sales Rob
That thing is made for you  [thumbsup]

I see they finally got around to putting in a rear shock with a reservoir.

Only on the S by the looks of it!

yeah, the rear guard looks stupid, as it's only applied to bikes with the number plate mounted to the swing arm i reckon it has more to do with pillions maybe getting a limb caught between the tyre and the number plate causing the huge cover, dunno, but it only seems to be fitted on bikes with that style of number plate holder.

The rear shock is a bit of a let down to me, the previous bikes all had a rising rate linkage, now it's just a cantilever, like the belt SS of years ago, bit disappointing, hope the ohlins does a good job....

For $26k ride away, it had better...

I think I'd be holding out for an 821cc version. Either that, or the 899 Pani is only 21k. Seems a bit steep for a Monster to me.

http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/march/ducati-821-monster-spied/#.UzIA-fldU75 (http://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2012/2014/march/ducati-821-monster-spied/#.UzIA-fldU75)

Doesn't look right from those angles.......Bulky upfront with very little rearward, could just be the photos. So will this be the end of the 796?

yeah, nah, wouldn't hold out for a smaller one, and i have a sports bike, the pani isn't my cup of tea anyway, but 26,300 ride away is pricey for a monster

No more SSSA either  :P

ummm......... SSSA = Single Sided SwingArm?
if so, look closer



should have gone to specsavers......... [beer]

they have priced them selves out and especially since most of there bikes are built in malaysier they should be cheaper 

From the article

"The new 821 has many similarities between it and its 1200cc older brother with an identical frame, chassis, tank, seat and twin exhausts. However, we can see from the images that an all-new double-sided swing arm and tail tidy mark the significant differences."

My comment was about the new 821, not the 1200.

ohhh, the baby panigale! yeah, looks cheap with the std type swingarm, but i'm not a fan of the 1199 either

Sundog & the article to which he refers are talking about the 821 ... baby, liquid cooled Monster. Spy pics showing a nearly complete, ready to release bike.

Interesting ... that swingarm is rather ... umm, substantial looking.

My take on it (similar to the baby Pani) is that the baby version is more than capable for most peoples. But they have purposely compromised the design aesthetic to encourage the typical Wankeristi snob to stump-up the cash for the big boys toy. The only thing stopping me from saying this may be a successful strategy is how the last 'S' version proved far too expensive.

New Monster naked group test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUt4ur4ixc&list=UUB_cdRhIDhlavY2I5URSC7g

 not on my next bike list !

The supposed not as good as the xpensive 1199 baby Pani group test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQza_TWj8JM&list=PLzNfXgKU0drnNVCaE5PNqjKaOFPIyi0BW

On my next bike list...........at the top next to the Aprillia RSV4

As always it depends on what you are after ... and that was not really much of a comparison to be fair. They admit that the Monster doesn't really fit that category and that some of the bikes can't even be considered naked. They didn't even use the 'S' which has more power and better suspension.

From what I saw and heard the Monster would be the winner for me, but for real world riding ... they would all be 'too much' I reckon.

too much is never enough!
the power is addictive and once you've stepped up it's hard to go back, at least for me it is, i don't see the point in spending more cash for less power in a newer bike.

sure there's guys that say "you can only go 100 you know" and that we can't ride what we have well enough to justify the cost. yeah yeah, if we're talking about upgrading the minivan justification might come into it but come on! these are toys, and i like my toys faster and flashier than what i had before, so no baby pain for me, no mini monster either, it's the big one or i'll stick with what i've got.





which is in fact what i'm doing, my diavel is faster, and looks heaps better, even if some insist on calling it a "cruiser", it scares plenty of sports bikes (eh mick?) and my 1098R is still the top dog super bike as far as i'm concerned. except for the superleggera, which i can't afford anyway......