Title: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: Cher on November 06, 2013, 04:42:54 AM Not sure what to make of the new Monster. I'll probably warm up to it once I see it in person; just like every other Ducati to come down the pike recently [roll] http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2014-ducati-monster-1200-and-1200-s/full/#photo-1291485/ (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2014-ducati-monster-1200-and-1200-s/full/#photo-1291485/) And here's the story of its launch at EICMA: http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/ducati-monster-1200-official-pricing/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/ducati-monster-1200-official-pricing/) And then there's this: a liquid cooled Harley Davidson "cafe" bike. It is powered by a smaller version of the "Revolution X" motor co-deisgned with Porsche: http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/harley-davidson-street-500-750-videos/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/harley-davidson-street-500-750-videos/) Believe it :o Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: muskrat on November 06, 2013, 07:08:44 AM The Multi starts at nearly the same price as the "loaded" Monster........pass on both price and looks. I still think it should have a full frame, after all it's part of the beauty IMO.
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: Johnny5 on November 06, 2013, 08:02:42 AM I actually love the new 1200. It looks like my EVO with some cool changes. Not all are great but in general I like the frame equal to my EVO, the sub-frame is MUCH better IMO on the 1200. Also it's adjustable ride height and you can get it MUCH lower stock than the EVO (I'm short so subjective). I think it looks like a great bike... and I'd love the power I bet. I want to ride one.
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: pesto on November 06, 2013, 11:34:02 AM I love it, but then again, I seem to love all motorcycles since I started riding last year, maybe discretion will come with experience [laugh].
I really couldn't justify the price of the 1100 with only 20 or so more hp than the 696, even with the add-ons such as traction control. I think the higher price of the 1200 is justified. Would love to ride one, but I don't see me rolling out of the showroom on top of one. Maybe a good upgrade path in a couple of years. Secretly I long for a dry clutch air cooled 1k+cc Monster with DSP :D. If anyone is wondering there's only one 1100 left at AMS, and it's the 20th anniversary edition :). Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: beetlejude on November 06, 2013, 12:52:28 PM I still think it should have a full frame, after all it's part of the beauty IMO. THIS. Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: muskrat on November 06, 2013, 04:13:01 PM I love it, but then again, I seem to love all motorcycles since I started riding last year, maybe discretion will come with experience [laugh]. first time someone's "justified" spending more for a hobby.....I like your styleI really couldn't justify the price of the 1100 with only 20 or so more hp than the 696, even with the add-ons such as traction control. I think the higher price of the 1200 is justified. Would love to ride one, but I don't see me rolling out of the showroom on top of one. Maybe a good upgrade path in a couple of years. Secretly I long for a dry clutch air cooled 1k+cc Monster with DSP :D. If anyone is wondering there's only one 1100 left at AMS, and it's the 20th anniversary edition :). And the anniversary edition is FUGLY, nothing special IMO Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: Cher on November 07, 2013, 04:26:22 AM No love for the Harley then?
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: muskrat on November 07, 2013, 07:01:23 AM already have one ;)
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: Johnny5 on November 07, 2013, 10:22:29 AM No love for the Harley then? It's OK, I find it meh. The Harleys I want (badly, VERY BADLY... LOL) are the Softail SLim and the Harley 48. Subjective though obviously.Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: system error on November 07, 2013, 01:54:22 PM Agree with the full frame comment. This new monster is worse than the old one. Looks like a Diavel had an illegitimate child with a Streetfighter. [thumbsdown]
Zero love for the HD too. There are some very nice looking HDs on the market... this is not one of them. And this coming from a guy who owns one of the worst looking things around. [laugh] Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: nickshelby500kr on November 08, 2013, 06:59:15 AM It's more of a miniature diavel than a monster really. I'm sure it won't be too long before the 796 is dropped too and and the 821 moved into its place.
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: LYD on November 08, 2013, 01:50:43 PM Dont really like either
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: muskrat on November 08, 2013, 05:17:59 PM shit, showed it to the Wife and now she wants to go see them when they come out......... [bang]
Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: caperix on November 11, 2013, 11:08:59 AM It's more of a miniature diavel than a monster really. I'm sure it won't be too long before the 796 is dropped too and and the 821 moved into its place. I was expecting that too, though when I checked the ducati website they also list a 795 monster now, looks like its just a 796 with the 696 swingarm. Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: pesto on November 11, 2013, 12:19:25 PM I was expecting that too, though when I checked the ducati website they also list a 795 monster now, looks like its just a 796 with the 696 swingarm. I believe they sell that one in India? It's a 796 engine wedged into the 696 AFAIK. Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer Post by: nickshelby500kr on November 11, 2013, 03:47:29 PM I give the 796 one more year before it's dropped.
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