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Title: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: Cher on November 06, 2013, 04:42:54 AM


Not sure what to make of the new Monster.  I'll probably warm up to it once I see it in person; just like every other Ducati to come down the pike recently  [roll]

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2014-ducati-monster-1200-and-1200-s/full/#photo-1291485/ (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2014-ducati-monster-1200-and-1200-s/full/#photo-1291485/)

And here's the story of its launch at EICMA:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/ducati-monster-1200-official-pricing/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/ducati-monster-1200-official-pricing/)


And then there's this: a liquid cooled Harley Davidson "cafe" bike.  It is powered by a smaller version of the "Revolution X" motor co-deisgned with Porsche:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/harley-davidson-street-500-750-videos/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/harley-davidson-street-500-750-videos/)

Believe it  :o


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: muskrat on November 06, 2013, 07:08:44 AM
The Multi starts at nearly the same price as the "loaded" Monster........pass on both price and looks.  I still think it should have a full frame, after all it's part of the beauty IMO.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: Johnny5 on November 06, 2013, 08:02:42 AM
I actually love the new 1200.  It looks like my EVO with some cool changes.  Not all are great but in general I like the frame equal to my EVO, the sub-frame is MUCH better IMO on the 1200.  Also it's adjustable ride height and you can get it MUCH lower stock than the EVO (I'm short so subjective).  I think it looks like a great bike... and I'd love the power I bet.  I want to ride one.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: pesto on November 06, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
I love it, but then again, I seem to love all motorcycles since I started riding last year, maybe discretion will come with experience  [laugh].

I really couldn't justify the price of the 1100 with only 20 or so more hp than the 696, even with the add-ons such as traction control. I think the higher price of the 1200 is justified. Would love to ride one, but I don't see me rolling out of the showroom on top of one. Maybe a good upgrade path in a couple of years.

Secretly I long for a dry clutch air cooled 1k+cc Monster with DSP :D.

If anyone is wondering there's only one 1100 left at AMS, and it's the 20th anniversary edition :).


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: beetlejude on November 06, 2013, 12:52:28 PM
I still think it should have a full frame, after all it's part of the beauty IMO.

THIS.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: muskrat on November 06, 2013, 04:13:01 PM
I love it, but then again, I seem to love all motorcycles since I started riding last year, maybe discretion will come with experience  [laugh].

I really couldn't justify the price of the 1100 with only 20 or so more hp than the 696, even with the add-ons such as traction control. I think the higher price of the 1200 is justified. Would love to ride one, but I don't see me rolling out of the showroom on top of one. Maybe a good upgrade path in a couple of years.

Secretly I long for a dry clutch air cooled 1k+cc Monster with DSP :D.

If anyone is wondering there's only one 1100 left at AMS, and it's the 20th anniversary edition :).
first time someone's "justified" spending more for a hobby.....I like your style

And the anniversary edition is FUGLY, nothing special IMO


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: Cher on November 07, 2013, 04:26:22 AM
No love for the Harley then?


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: muskrat on November 07, 2013, 07:01:23 AM
already have one  ;)


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: Johnny5 on November 07, 2013, 10:22:29 AM
No love for the Harley then?

It's OK, I find it meh. The Harleys I want (badly, VERY BADLY... LOL) are the Softail SLim and the Harley 48.  Subjective though obviously.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: system error on November 07, 2013, 01:54:22 PM
Agree with the full frame comment.  This new monster is worse than the old one.  Looks like a Diavel had an illegitimate child with a Streetfighter.   [thumbsdown]  

Zero love for the HD too.  There are some very nice looking HDs on the market... this is not one of them. 

And this coming from a guy who owns one of the worst looking things around.   [laugh]


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: nickshelby500kr on November 08, 2013, 06:59:15 AM
It's more of a miniature diavel than a monster really. I'm sure it won't be too long before the 796 is dropped too and and the 821 moved into its place.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: LYD on November 08, 2013, 01:50:43 PM
Dont really like either


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: muskrat on November 08, 2013, 05:17:59 PM
shit, showed it to the Wife and now she wants to go see them when they come out......... [bang]


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: caperix on November 11, 2013, 11:08:59 AM
It's more of a miniature diavel than a monster really. I'm sure it won't be too long before the 796 is dropped too and and the 821 moved into its place.

I was expecting that too, though when I checked the ducati website they also list a 795 monster now, looks like its just a 796 with the 696 swingarm.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: pesto on November 11, 2013, 12:19:25 PM
I was expecting that too, though when I checked the ducati website they also list a 795 monster now, looks like its just a 796 with the 696 swingarm.

I believe they sell that one in India? It's a 796 engine wedged into the 696 AFAIK.


Title: Re: Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer
Post by: nickshelby500kr on November 11, 2013, 03:47:29 PM
I give the 796 one more year before it's dropped.


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