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Title: Oil changes between services?
Post by: pesto on November 07, 2013, 08:26:42 AM
So after my first 1k km service, my local dealer, AMS, told me I should come in at 3k mi. So I did without checking the manual. When I went back and looked after being charged $150- for an oil change, I noticed it said the next service was due at 12k km. I asked the dealer about this and she said to take it in between every service for an oil change o.O. Anyone else heard this from their dealer? I think I'm just going to stick with the manual's recommended maintenance but was curious about others' experiences.
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: SpikeC on November 07, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
 Sounds like a great way for the dealer to boost the bottom line!
Or should I say "stealer"?

A lot of people do change oil every 3 thousand miles, butt it is really not necessary with modern synthetic oils, and to pay a shop $150 to do it is not very cost effective. It is a pretty simple proceedure.
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: DarkMonster620 on November 07, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
NO matter what the Service Manual says, I've done my oil/filter at least twice a year, why you ask, I spend way too much time idling in traffic . . . it's my own "scheduled maintenance" . . .

Now, being a dealer tech, I must do per the service manual but at the same time, there is an "annual service" to be done that includes oil/filter change . . .or every 12 000kms, people here wont do the 12K kms so, in order for them to 'maintain' warranty, they must come in at least once a year . . .
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: pesto on November 07, 2013, 09:36:56 AM
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on November 07, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
NO matter what the Service Manual says, I've done my oil/filter at least twice a year, why you ask, I spend way too much time idling in traffic . . . it's my own "scheduled maintenance" . . .

Now, being a dealer tech, I must do per the service manual but at the same time, there is an "annual service" to be done that includes oil/filter change . . .or every 12 000kms, people here wont do the 12K kms so, in order for them to 'maintain' warranty, they must come in at least once a year . . .

That makes sense...like 1 year or 12k km. But I put 3kmi since July. Good to know though.
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: Howie on November 07, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
If the dealer recommends you change the oil every 3K that is OK.  If the dealer says or implies this is required they are wrong.  $150 for just an oil change  [bang]
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: DarkMonster620 on November 07, 2013, 10:25:34 AM
Hope this serves as a guideline for the bikes listed only . . . !!!

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Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: jerryz on November 07, 2013, 10:32:24 AM
DIY and leave it till  6k ,,,,,,,,$150 for an oil and filter change is a ripoff ....
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: nickshelby500kr on November 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
AMS charges $80 for a 4L jug of motul 300v, $20 for a filter. They go by the book for labor and IIRC book says half hour labor ($50).
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: pesto on November 07, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: nickshelby500kr on November 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
AMS charges $80 for a 4L jug of motul 300v, $20 for a filter. They go by the book for labor and IIRC book says half hour labor ($50).

Bingo :).
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: cokey on November 07, 2013, 11:47:29 AM
Do it your self or bring your own oil and filter..  I change filters every 2nd oil change..  change oil every 3-5k miles...
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: SpikeC on November 07, 2013, 12:11:04 PM
  Mobile one motorcycle oil from Amazon is 63 bucks a case of 6 quarts, a K&N oil filter 12.95, free shipping.
53 bucks for parts with some oil left over. It might take you a half hour your first time.
Just found a K&N filter there for just over 8 bucks.
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: pesto on November 07, 2013, 12:44:54 PM
Yeah I also found a helpful video on youtube :).
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: muskrat on November 08, 2013, 10:52:27 AM
I change mine every 3k miles, sooner if I've been flogging the ole huzzy. 
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: Blackout on November 08, 2013, 12:09:16 PM
I use Shell Rotella T6 full synthetic. Usually costs about $20-25 for a gallon and widely available, even WalMart has it.
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: HotIce on November 09, 2013, 07:36:58 AM
Mobil1 10W-40 Racing, ~3qt, ~$30 at Autozone.
K&N 153, 1, ~$12
Minutes on bonding with your bike, 20, priceless  ;D
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: d3vi@nt on November 09, 2013, 11:21:06 AM
Quote from: nickshelby500kr on November 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
AMS charges $80 for a 4L jug of motul 300v, $20 for a filter. They go by the book for labor and IIRC book says half hour labor ($50).
Same with the dealer here; $75 for Motul, $20ish for filter and crush washer, $45 for half-hour labor. Plus taxes and disposal fees.

I use Castrol full-synth at $10/qt which works just fine. Get my filters online @ $14 each.
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: cokey on November 09, 2013, 04:29:21 PM
Can always get that forever filter posted here a while ago..  expensive but all it needs is a clean and reuse...
Title: Re: Oil changes between services?
Post by: SpikeC on November 09, 2013, 05:24:35 PM
 I want more than a tea strainer for an oil filter...........