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Title: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Triple J on November 08, 2013, 10:03:09 AM
Nothing yet?  :P

FP2 results...looks like MM doesn't realize he only needs to get 4th this weekend.  [bow_down]

1 Marc Marquez Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:31.220
2 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Team Honda 1:31.286
3 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 1:31.378
4 Cal Crutchlow Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1:31.502
5 Valentino Rossi Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 1:31.639
6 Stefan Bradl LCR Honda Honda 1:31.858
7 Alvaro Bautista Go&Fun Honda Gresini Honda 1:31.873
8 Bradley Smith Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1:31.984
9 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati Team Ducati 1:32.363
10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Team Ducati 1:32.395
11 Andrea Iannone Energy T.I. Pramac Racing Ducati 1:32.596
12 Michele Pirro Ignite Pramac Racing Ducati 1:32.756
13 Aleix Espargaro Power Electronics Aspar ART 1:32.809
14 Claudio Corti NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 1:33.172
15 Colin Edwards NGM Mobile Forward Racing FTR Kawasaki 1:33.252


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on November 08, 2013, 06:55:18 PM
Given how close The Three Enemigos™ are so far, I wish that the championship was already decided.
See them duke it out without all the drama.

But there's sheep stations to play for, so we'll see how it all shakes out.

Love seeing MM hang it out around T13.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Spidey on November 08, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Any bets on whether MM tosses it away in Sat practice and hurts himself?  Maybe not a big hurt, but he seems to looooooove those FP crashes.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on November 08, 2013, 07:09:56 PM
I think he's got *just* enough self control to keep it shiny side up.

But he is 20, and seems to bounce quite nicely.

Lorenzo's using everything in his bag of trix.
'Cause it's the last year it'll do him any good.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Spidey on November 09, 2013, 08:27:13 AM
My god, MM's qualifying lap looked like he was riding really loose.  That bike was all over the place. 


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Triple J on November 09, 2013, 09:46:02 AM
How does someone (besides JLo and Pedrobot) not like MM. He only needs 4th, but puts it on pole!  [bow_down]


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: MadDuck on November 09, 2013, 01:08:33 PM
How does someone (besides JLo and Pedrobot) not like MM. He only needs 4th, but puts it on pole!  [bow_down]



Wheeee!


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Spidey on November 09, 2013, 01:39:29 PM
Am I the only one that has the feeling that MM has a 50/50 chance of tossin' it into the kitty litter?


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: mdgore on November 09, 2013, 02:29:58 PM
There really is no drama on the track.  Unless he bins it (doubtful), MM is the 2013 MotoGP champion, and in the history books.  The only thing of interest at Valencia is Rossi and Burgess (interesting how Val can steal so much thunder with a simple press release), and further down the road, Stoner and Burgess with a couple of factory Honda RC213V in the garage. Bye Bye Pedobot (at the end of your contract), the promise was never fulfilled.  
















I'll admit there is a part of me that want Crutchlow to T-bone MM into the kitty litter, but that's because I'm playing Motostorm right now.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 09, 2013, 02:59:09 PM
sooo.. MM's lap was the fastest ever around valencia.



and let's not forget what he did here last year.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Jester on November 09, 2013, 03:39:50 PM
Aside from the GP race, I can not wait for the Moto3 race.  That could be the best race of the year.  Also with regards to MM only needing fourth...  I would never expect him to take it easy or any other racer just because they don't need to win.  Racers go for it and only settle if its clear they don't have the package on race day.  Nobody wants to celebrate a championship off the podium.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Triple J on November 09, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
I think MM will take it easy in the sense that he won't make too risky of a move to grab the lead (he already showed that in the last race). But if he thinks he can win relatively safely, then I see him going for it.

No one wants to celebrate off the podium, but no one wants to cry over losing a championship in the kitty litter either.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 09, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
http://motomatters.com/results/2013/11/09/2013_valencia_motogp_fp4_result_lorenzo_.html (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/11/09/2013_valencia_motogp_fp4_result_lorenzo_.html)


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: ducpainter on November 09, 2013, 04:37:31 PM
http://motomatters.com/results/2013/11/09/2013_valencia_motogp_fp4_result_lorenzo_.html (http://motomatters.com/results/2013/11/09/2013_valencia_motogp_fp4_result_lorenzo_.html)
Jorge can claim all he wants, but the fact is, while he may be capable of winning the race tomorrow...

the championship is not his to win...

only Marquez' to lose.

And that's what they've been doing all season.

Fighting race by race for the championship. ;D


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Rameses on November 10, 2013, 05:32:13 AM


I keep waiting for Pedrosa to pull the ole "Repsol Teammate Torpedo" move again.


Been a while since we've seen that one, little guy.



Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: duccarlos on November 10, 2013, 05:49:27 AM
Officially the best rookie season ever!


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: derby on November 10, 2013, 05:53:27 AM
i wish all races were like this first half of this one...


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 08:12:11 AM
i wish all races were like this first half of this one...

then we'd have to listen to jorge complain in every press conference.

my feelings about him aside, masterful race from george.  slow then fast, nothing else he could have done.  and nice job pedro.

congrats MM!  this season was over in austin.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Triple J on November 10, 2013, 09:46:57 AM
1st half of that race was epic!  [bow_down] MM did very well in riding smart & JLo did a great job keeping them bunched...

...that said, F JLo. A proponent of clean racing, unless it doesn't suit him.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 09:50:01 AM
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/Pedrosa+2013+Valencia+race+review (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/Pedrosa+2013+Valencia+race+review)

"Obviously, I didn’t want to touch Dani or do anything to him, but I had my strategy and I had to try until the end. The first time he braked earlier than I expected and the second time he tried to stay in the same position on the outside and we found ourselves in the same place. I say sorry to him because I never want to touch any rider."

but yeah, f that guy.  =)


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on November 10, 2013, 01:04:48 PM
Played out like I expected.

Dani didn't have enough pace to make a pass on Jorge stick.
That was odd.

Jorge's going to have a tough time in the future crying foul over rough riding.
Well, he undoubtedly will, but IMO his credibility is lost.

Marquez played it cool, impressive!

Can't wait for testing, that'll be a treat.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 01:14:25 PM
Dani didn't have enough pace to make a pass on Jorge stick.
That was odd.

he (everyone) was being held up by jorge so he was having to force passes a bit, which made him go a little wide.  then george wicked it up to a more normal pace for a second.  bigger problem was the track; it's a hard place to pass (unless you're MM on a moto2 bike).

his credibility on that topic was lost before he ever opened his mouth, since he was so damn aggressive on the 250.
 
smartest thing MM did today was wave dani by.  well, one of the smartest things anyway.

just watched the awards ceremony.  he handled it very well.  no jorge-esque jackassery.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: The Don on November 10, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
Seems like Yamaha didn't have any problems with there engine allocation as people were suggesting earlier in the season.
There are only two aliens, JL and MM


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: koko64 on November 10, 2013, 03:58:30 PM
Race direction's findings will be interesting.

Poor Pedrosa! I think that's sucked the last bit of Ki out of him. What a beating!

Cant help but think that JL could have won the championship if instead of complaining, he beat up MM each race by riding like that. A bit of Rossiesque head games off track would have helped too.

The Kid kept cool nerve for a 20 year old. Impressive.
It was great to witness history being made.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 04:03:31 PM
Poor Pedrosa! I think that's sucked the last bit of Ki out of him. What a beating!

huh?


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 04:06:10 PM
pretty extensive MM bio: http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Nov/131110marcbio.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2013/Nov/131110marcbio.htm)


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Speeddog on November 10, 2013, 04:11:23 PM
Seems like Yamaha didn't have any problems with there engine allocation as people were suggesting earlier in the season.
There are only two aliens, JL and MM

Lorenzo and Crutchlow both blew up motors in practice prior to this race


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: ducpainter on November 10, 2013, 04:25:00 PM
Guess he's the real deal.  ;D


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Jester on November 10, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Seems like Yamaha didn't have any problems with there engine allocation as people were suggesting earlier in the season.
There are only two aliens, JL and MM

Have to disagree.  Pedro, with injury, cracked 300 points.  That may well be the story of his career, but he's still a championship contender.  A couple of MM 15+ practice crashes go the other way and he misses 2-4 races.  You never know how each season will go. 

Dani needs to remember how aggressive he was today in Valencia, and Jorge needs to stop apologizing for it.  Ride tough every week.  Bashing a few fairings is part of the deal.  Bring on 14'.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Grampa on November 10, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Stoner who?


 [laugh]


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: koko64 on November 10, 2013, 05:42:00 PM
huh?

I cant see him winning a Moto GP championship ever, unless JL and MM crash and are out for about four races. He must know its so remote now. That would be devastating.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 06:02:43 PM
Dani needs to remember how aggressive he was today in Valencia, and Jorge needs to stop apologizing for it.  Ride tough every week.  Bashing a few fairings is part of the deal.  Bring on 14'.

 [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Triple J on November 10, 2013, 06:03:07 PM

Dani needs to remember how aggressive he was today in Valencia, and Jorge needs to stop apologizing for it.  Ride tough every week.  Bashing a few fairings is part of the deal.  Bring on 14'.

+1

...because that's what MM is going to do.


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 06:10:52 PM
I cant see him winning a Moto GP championship ever, unless JL and MM crash and are out for about four races. He must know its so remote now. That would be devastating.

ohh.

yeah, he'll never win.  that's actually nothing new.  rossi/jlo/stoner have always been in his way.

but there's something very useful and valuable to repsol to just about always being #2 or #3.  he gets as much coverage as JL and MM.

frankly i'm still pulling for him, tho i don't think he can beat MM in a straight up season.  but i'd still *really* like to see a completely injury-free season from him, with the kind of intensity we saw from him today and in most of 2012.  problem is i think he has the mental toughness for the equivalent of only about half a season, which is how he keeps getting hurt.
 
 


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: Spidey on November 10, 2013, 06:30:33 PM
Dani needs to remember how aggressive he was today in Valencia

Dani wasn't aggressive today.  He got his ass handed to him by Mr. "We-Should-All-Be-Nice-On-The-Track-But-If-I-Need-To-I'll-Kill-And-Eat-Your-Sister."  If he'd been aggressive, some of those passed would have stuck.  Or he would have crashed George the make the beast with two backs off the track.

I'm glad MM won it.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: gm2 on November 10, 2013, 09:05:35 PM
pretty good shirt =)

(http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/710/PA1446929.jpg)


Title: Re: 2013 MotoGP Round 18 - Valencia (Spoilers)
Post by: ZLTFUL on November 12, 2013, 12:34:42 PM
20 years old...with a fresh world title under his belt and a brand new matte black BMW M6...yeah...Marcy Marc is gettin' him some.  [clap]


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