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Title: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: MajorMayhem on November 14, 2013, 09:31:39 AM
Hello all,

Just picked up an 06 s2r 800 with 5000 miles on it. Naturally, I want to change the oil as I am not sure how the previous owner pushed the bike. I get down to check the oil plug and the exhaust pipe from the top cylinder goes directly under the oil plug with about 3/4 inch clearance. Not enough to get the hex socket on. Has anyone else run into this and I suppose I will have to take the whole exhaust off to clear the plug. To my knowledge the bike has never down or wrecked.  ???

Thanks
Major
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: Speeddog on November 14, 2013, 09:36:26 AM
Not sure of the configuration of that system, but I've run into it a couple times.

If you can post a picture, that may help with possible solutions.

How to post a pic here: http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0)

Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: MajorMayhem on November 14, 2013, 04:25:21 PM
http://s1034.photobucket.com/user/MajorPelham/slideshow/ (http://s1034.photobucket.com/user/MajorPelham/slideshow/)
A few pics of the mid-pipe running under the oil plug
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: Speeddog on November 14, 2013, 04:52:47 PM
That's just stellar.  :(

You may be able to just loosen the rear part of that headpipe, and remove it from the head at the front, and swing it out of the way.
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: MajorMayhem on November 14, 2013, 06:02:16 PM
Thanks Speeddog. I will give it a try, called the two Ducati dealers in the state, neither shop had ever seen one like this....just my luck. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: stopintime on November 14, 2013, 06:06:42 PM
You're not the first to experience that with aftermarket mid-pipes - some block the drain hole and I think others block the filter. Spark midpipes don't block either.

http://motowheels.com/i-6922408-spark-monster-s2r-800-2007-midpipe.html (http://motowheels.com/i-6922408-spark-monster-s2r-800-2007-midpipe.html)
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: ducatiz on November 14, 2013, 06:10:13 PM
Remove the side plug where the temp sensor is.  Got a stand?

That is where the intake screen is.  The hole is lower than the drain plug when you lean the bike to the right.  When I drain my bikes, I open both holes.  I'm that kind of guy.
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: MajorMayhem on November 15, 2013, 04:32:33 AM
Thanks Ducatiz. I was curious if I could get all the oil out via the screen plug whole. I will give it a try as well.
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: ducatiz on November 18, 2013, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: MajorMayhem on November 15, 2013, 04:32:33 AM
Thanks Ducatiz. I was curious if I could get all the oil out via the screen plug whole. I will give it a try as well.

You CAN, but it is trickier on the newer models due to the oil sensor.

Remove the wire, and use a deep-well socket to avoid hitting it.

It is just a plug.  The oil will come out, thru the pick-up screen, which you should remove to inspect with some frequency.

The old models, the pickup screen and the plug were one unit, I think you need a 14mm key to take it out (someone correct me, that's from memory).

The older SBK toolkits had the key to remove the oil screen, which IIRC was the same as the oil plug on the bottom.

Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: Howie on November 18, 2013, 10:27:49 AM
Yes on the 14mm key, get a hex socket since it is pretty tight.  A box wrench will work on the plug too.
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: ducatiz on November 18, 2013, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: howie on November 18, 2013, 10:27:49 AM
Yes on the 14mm key, get a hex socket since it is pretty tight.  A box wrench will work on the plug too.

It's the bottom item on the left.  One end is a 14mm hex and the other end is designed to have an open end wrench turn it.

(http://www.giovannimoto.com/uploads/20478277e1a2f84970686072.jpg)
Title: Re: Termignoni exhaust pipe under the oil plug
Post by: Speeddog on November 18, 2013, 11:59:11 AM
Drain plug requires a 10mm hex driver.

AFAIK, configuration of the oil screen changed for the 2001* model year.

Prior to that was a one-piece screen, remove using a 21mm standard socket.

2001* and later used an external plug, requiring either a 21mm standard socket or 14mm hex driver.
The internal screen requires the 14mm hex driver for removal.

The 2001* and later external plug and internal screen are usually quite tight, I use a 1/2" breaker bar and a stout pull.

*As all things Ducati are, the configuration changeover is not set in stone. YMMV.