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Title: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Ill_Monstruo on March 29, 2014, 01:26:53 PM
Came across this today on the internet. Kid takes out his dad's Duc for a spin. Forgets about kickstand and you can probably guess what comes next…

http://youtu.be/yffzuYIq8xA (http://youtu.be/yffzuYIq8xA)


(Html to post the video here wasn't working, so i added the direct link to youtube instead)


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: kopfjäger on March 29, 2014, 01:33:12 PM
Not the first one to do that, won't be the last.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: koko64 on March 29, 2014, 02:13:05 PM
Explain to Papa.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Ddan on March 29, 2014, 02:52:51 PM
The comments says it was an oil leak, not the sidestand, not that that makes a better story to Dad...


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: ducpainter on March 29, 2014, 03:29:33 PM
The comments says it was an oil leak, not the sidestand, not that that makes a better story to Dad...
I've had oil soaking my boots from Ducs...

I'd sooner believe the sidestand... ;)


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Grampa on March 29, 2014, 03:35:47 PM

Ferris Bueller- Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.


But remember after you start back up, check the sidestand.
 


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: SpikeC on March 29, 2014, 04:32:09 PM
 How does so much stuff fly off of the bike at such a low speed dump?? Was it not bolted together??


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Skybarney on March 29, 2014, 06:41:53 PM
And that is why children are best par boiled and slow roasted...


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: StephenC on March 29, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
And that is why children are best par boiled and slow roasted...

My wife is out for the day, leaving me in charge, so ... Amen to that!


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Monsterlover on March 30, 2014, 03:38:01 PM
Wow, that bike took itself apart for its own yard sale :o

Damn.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: tuxicle on March 30, 2014, 04:53:21 PM
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why that 996 would self-destruct like that.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: He Man on March 30, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
The bike didnt have  fairings on, im pretty sure the owner (his dad) was taking it apart for servicing, and didnt bolt the stuff back on. It had no fairings.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: grunte on March 31, 2014, 05:35:38 PM
My s2r and other monsters that I've ridden will shut off if you put it in gear while kickstand down....hmm interesting.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: kopfjäger on March 31, 2014, 06:05:00 PM
My s2r and other monsters that I've ridden will shut off if you put it in gear while kickstand down....hmm interesting.

Easily to override, mine are.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: ducpainter on April 01, 2014, 03:05:19 PM
My s2r and other monsters that I've ridden will shut off if you put it in gear while kickstand down....hmm interesting.
Easily to override, mine are.
...and early bikes had no kickstand switches other than a display notification.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Rameses on April 01, 2014, 07:27:28 PM


My old S4 had a bypass installed.

Only once did a make the mistake of not making sure I had kicked it up all the way.

Luckily when I went to turn left, it just kinda bounced me back up straight and I was going slow enough that I was able to keep everything under control long enough to figure out what had happened and flip the stand up.  Missed my turn though.




Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Rudemouthsky on April 02, 2014, 04:30:18 AM
"Didn't know the Ducatis were made of Lego"  [laugh]


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: swampduc on April 02, 2014, 08:54:36 AM

My old S4 had a bypass installed.

Only once did a make the mistake of not making sure I had kicked it up all the way.

Luckily when I went to turn left, it just kinda bounced me back up straight and I was going slow enough that I was able to keep everything under control long enough to figure out what had happened and flip the stand up.  Missed my turn though.




I did the same thing on my 996. Unfortunately, I think the impact weakened the kickstand enough that it cracked a week later and the bike fell over anyway  [laugh]


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: duccarlos on April 02, 2014, 09:19:47 AM
I personally believe that you should never override the kickstand switch unless it's malfunctioning.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Rudemouthsky on April 02, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
I personally believe that you should never override the kickstand switch unless it's malfunctioning.

Royal pain in the ass on carbed bikes that need to warm up for awhile.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Monsterlover on April 02, 2014, 03:46:27 PM
When I had my m900ie we fed the ecu a second ground generated by the neutral light.

That way with the bike running in neutral it would run with the stand down. The instant you put it in gear with the stand down the engine cut out. A $1.49 diode on the line from the neutral light to the side stand switch kept the neutral light off while in motion in gear.

Worked perfectly.

Search TOB for $1.49 side stand switch bypass


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Ddan on April 02, 2014, 03:49:58 PM
When I had my m900ie we fed the ecu a second ground generated by the neutral light.

That way with the bike running in neutral it would run with the stand down. The instant you put it in gear with the stand down the engine cut out. A $1.49 diode on the line from the neutral light to the side stand switch kept the neutral light off while in motion in gear.

Worked perfectly.

Search TOB for $1.49 side stand switch bypass

This


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: duccarlos on April 04, 2014, 05:56:03 AM
I was able to have my S2R on the kickstand on while in neutral. I'm not sure if they installed the bypass directly at the dealer.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Triple J on April 04, 2014, 07:36:09 AM
Every bike I've ever owned allowed the stand to be down while the bike was running in neutral. Oldest one was a 2001 M900, and included multiple other Ducatis. I didn't modify any of them, it's how they came.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: duccarlos on April 04, 2014, 08:13:03 AM
That's what I thought. So back to my point, you should not override the switch unless it's acting up.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Monsterlover on April 04, 2014, 05:06:15 PM
Hmmm, I don't know about 2001 but for sure the 2000 m900ie would not run with the stand down in neutral.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: kopfjäger on April 04, 2014, 06:44:02 PM
I personally believe that you should never override the kickstand switch unless it's malfunctioning.

I personally believe I should do whatever the make the beast with two backs I want to.  :-*


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: The ModFather on April 18, 2014, 05:24:16 AM
My bike has a bypass installed and there have been a couple times where I didnt pop the kickstand up but it's springloaded so as soon as it swipes the ground in forward motion (even slightly) it pops right up. I'm having a hard time understanding how the Kickstand wouldnt just get pushed up by the forward motion instead of causing a crash like this? Maybe it's not spring loaded like my Monster 620??


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: triangleforge on April 18, 2014, 06:52:25 AM
My ST2 has the kickstand switch disabled as well, and the couple of times I've taken off with it down it touched & flipped right up on the first low-speed left, even just a minor direction change. As on your 620, it was unnerving but uneventful, though I could see that things might end differently if you managed to get up to speed before turning left.

I've long meant to look at the switch so that it'll run kickstand down in neutral but kill if I put it in gear, but it's pretty far down on the list of things to do. These days I just make a habit of raising the stand before I do anything else any time I've got a leg over the bike.


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: lawbreaker on April 19, 2014, 09:05:20 AM
I disabled the bypass as well as the "Auto-retract" for the kickstand on my SPS... a buddy of mine saw a customer at Spectrum in Irvine (when they were open) climb onto a 996 which was on consignment and when he leaned the bike up ... the side stand retracted. Customer had no idea,  and when he climbed off .... the bike fell over


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Rudemouthsky on April 19, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
I disabled the bypass as well as the "Auto-retract" for the kickstand on my SPS... a buddy of mine saw a customer at Spectrum in Irvine (when they were open) climb onto a 996 which was on consignment and when he leaned the bike up ... the side stand retracted. Customer had no idea,  and when he climbed off .... the bike fell over

Woops....nobody happy in that scenario. I won't touch another person's (dealership property excluded) unless a combination of them insisting and me reeeeealy wanting to happens...and then I act like I'm handling the lost ark from Indiana Jones....


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Barney on April 19, 2014, 04:32:08 PM
Easily to override, mine are.

What's the advantage to this?


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: Ducatamount on April 19, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
To allow your bike time to warm up while you finish your  [coffee]


Title: Re: Kid takes out Dad's Ducati 996 for spin. Forgets to put kickstand down.
Post by: duccarlos on April 21, 2014, 05:10:36 AM
What's the advantage to this?

Some switches don't allow the bike to turnover even in neutral when the kickstand is down. That's when you would need to override it if you want to warm up the bike without having to stand on it.


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