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Title: scams....
Post by: MrFryMoto on July 10, 2008, 11:15:34 AM
...make me not want to sell

i'm selling a set of car wheels locally on craigslist
i have responded to a few questions and i just got this in an email

QuoteHello and thanks for your prompt reply.I work in an Automobile workshop in NY and I actually want to buy the wheels and make payment as fast as possible but i will appreciate it if we can both deal on transparency and honesty......
My mode of payment for this item will be through US Certified Cashiers
Check because, that's the only means of payment i have access to
presently and i don't mind offering you $50 extra provided you can
reserve the item for me for just a day, while i make payment and also,
i will wait till the check clears your bank and you have your CASH
with you before i arrange for the shipping.
As for the shipping,i am shipping the wheels to our workshop in New York and it will be handled by my shipping company as soon as you verify and confirmed payment, so all i need from you is to know when you will be available at your address so that my shipping company can come and pick up the item.
If this sounds good and you are okay with my payment and shipping
arrangements, do let me have your full name and address plus your
direct phone number as it will be written on the check so that i can
forward it to my finance house to prepare it for you to receive it on
time.
Thanks and get back to me as soon as possible.
Regards...

im not leaving out their name... they didn't put one!
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: jdubbs32584 on July 10, 2008, 11:17:44 AM
You should make the beast with two backs with them somehow. Send them some wheels off of some Hot Wheels.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: MrFryMoto on July 10, 2008, 11:19:20 AM
Quote from: JBubble on July 10, 2008, 11:17:44 AM
You should make the beast with two backs with them somehow. Send them some wheels off of some Hot Wheels.
hahaha
or change the ad to say "picture of 4 wheels"
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: ducatiz on July 10, 2008, 03:04:15 PM
if you post something for sale on CL that type of email is the norm. 

if you DON'T get one, then your ad looks like a scam.

Title: Re: scams....
Post by: BWClark on July 10, 2008, 10:35:13 PM
I live in NZ, so stuff work different here, but I don't know what the problem is...   ???

The only thing I don't like is giving out my address. I'm not sure about the details of the proposed payment, but it sounds like you get to make sure you have the cash. After that, who cares where you send it? Can you tell me why you don't like that email? Edukate me...  :)
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: hbliam on July 10, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
Send them the info. Then ship them four very heavy boxes of bricks. COD of course.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: x136 on July 10, 2008, 11:03:09 PM
It actually sounds legit to me. He's allowing for the time to let the check clear, and paying you extra for your trouble.

Now, if he sends you a check for thousands of dollars more than you're asking, and asks for you to send him the excess back, then it's box-o-bricks time.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: MrFryMoto on July 11, 2008, 06:08:24 AM
the whole
Quoteit will be handled by my shipping company
part scares me a bit

and i just realized the name attached to the email address is "James Brown"
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 06:15:13 AM
it's a scam.

the check is a fraud.  usually drawn off a real account, but scammed.

this happened to my wife.  some baboon was making payments to Senegal with checks that he'd printed her checking info on. 

the checks WILL POST but when the owner figures it out, you'll get stuck when the check gets returned as fraudulent.

if you have ANY idea this is a not a scam, just google "nigerian check scam" on the web.

i've sold 3 bikes on craigslist and i've gotten the SAME email (with variations) multiple times.  if you take the original email and look at the header, you'll see it was sent from nigeria or amsterdam.

Title: Re: scams....
Post by: nkryptit on July 11, 2008, 06:16:00 AM
Ya...what happens is you cash the money orders at the bank and they give you cash.  Cash-in-hand, you feel like everything is working out.  You ship the product, then a few weeks - month later, the bank finally figures out that those were fake money orders, and they pull all that money right back out of your account.  I think when the guy said to let the M.O. 'clear' he really meant when you have your cash in hand.

But then again, if he is really willing to wait up to a month for you to ship them out, then I don't see where he can scam you, as long as you wait for the 100% from your bank.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 06:17:25 AM
Quote from: nkryptit on July 11, 2008, 06:16:00 AM
Ya...what happens is you cash the money orders at the bank and they give you cash.  Cash-in-hand, you feel like everything is working out.  You ship the product, then a few weeks - month later, the bank finally figures out that those were fake money orders, and they pull all that money right back out of your account.  I think when the guy said to let the M.O. 'clear' he really meant when you have your cash in hand.

But then again, if he is really willing to wait up to a month for you to ship them out, then I don't see where he can scam you, as long as you wait for the 100% from your bank.

or just cash it and never send the items for 6-7 months
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: BWClark on July 11, 2008, 06:33:31 AM
So you have to have a bank account to cash a US Certified Cashiers Check? This isn't a bank-cheque? 
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 06:36:25 AM
Quote from: BWClark on July 11, 2008, 06:33:31 AM
So you have to have a bank account to cash a US Certified Cashiers Check? This isn't a bank-cheque? 

bank policy in the US is to require an account to prevent fraud -- for ANY kind of check.

you can go to check cashing businesses, but they charge a percentage etc.  plus, most of them will not cash a bank check not drawn on a local bank.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: BWClark on July 11, 2008, 06:44:37 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 11, 2008, 06:36:25 AM
bank policy in the US is to require an account to prevent fraud -- for ANY kind of check.

you can go to check cashing businesses, but they charge a percentage etc.  plus, most of them will not cash a bank check not drawn on a local bank.

...and so you are in the system and they have you forever..... <sinister laughter>

...come cash your nigerian bank checks here in NZ. There is no such requirement. Just make them look like they're from the Bank of New Zealand.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: BWClark on July 11, 2008, 06:44:37 AM
...and so you are in the system and they have you forever..... <sinister laughter>

...come cash your nigerian bank checks here in NZ. There is no such requirement. Just make them look like they're from the Bank of New Zealand.

you guys have a different culture.  you have insects the size of new york city rats  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weta) and you have gnomes running about molesting garden fruits.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: Kyna on July 11, 2008, 06:59:21 AM
no link for the garden gnomes?  I was thinking about moving just for those.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: hbliam on July 11, 2008, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 11, 2008, 06:36:25 AM
bank policy in the US is to require an account to prevent fraud -- for ANY kind of check.


You do not need an account to cash a check. You just have to go to the bank the check is drawn from to cash it. It doesn't even have to be the same branch. For example: someone gives me a check for $100 drawn from their Bank of America checking account. I just go to any Bank of America and present the check and proper I.D. and they have to cash it.
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: MrFryMoto on July 11, 2008, 11:41:58 AM
my guess is this will be from an obscure bank in new york
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: KnightofNi on July 11, 2008, 01:03:01 PM
Quote from: MrFry on July 11, 2008, 11:41:58 AM
my guess is this will be from an obscure bank in new york


get the check, send it to pakhan to cash at said obscure bank.

he will then send you the money.
what could go wrong? he's a trustworthy guy...isn't he?
Title: Re: scams....
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 01:08:38 PM
Quote from: KnightofNi on July 11, 2008, 01:03:01 PM
get the check, send it to pakhan to cash at said obscure bank.

he will then send you the money.
what could go wrong? he's a trustworthy guy...isn't he?

regardless of the crusty exterior, he is.