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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 11:07:28 AM

Title: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 11:07:28 AM
Hi again folks

I have a NOS oil cooler from what appears to be a 996 or another bike that utilizes the extra line to the cylinder heads. Aside from this extra hole the dimensions and rows are identical to my OE cooler. My questions are:

How do I safely plug this hole? It is a typical banjo bolt size and pitch. When I insert a banjo bolt it somewhat impedes oil flow as shown:

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20140615_134111_zpsios64c3n.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20140615_134111_zpsios64c3n.jpg.html)

Would anyone foresee this as a problem, and if so what would you recommend? Is this even a viable way to seal it up?

Thanks
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 15, 2014, 11:44:31 AM
I'd say, get a screw with same thread/pitch, put some pvc tape on it's thread get a washer, tighten, done . . . I've done it a few times on autos when owners "knowing more than me and saving a few bucks" have purchased a generic radiator that doesn't have either auto tran cooler or engine cooler
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 12:40:16 PM
M10 super fine thread bolts are very hard to come by so I'd like to just use this banjo. Any reason I should be concerned about the impedance shown in the photo?

Thanks Carlos
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: SpikeC on June 15, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
 You could always cut it down, no?
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: SpikeC on June 15, 2014, 12:56:35 PM
You could always cut it down, no?

I suppose so but there's just so little thread after the hole in the bolt. I don't think the banjo is going to work either way.
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 15, 2014, 01:39:35 PM
Sorry for delay I'm a bit happy . . . can you have a  ustom lenght plug made and/or then weld it?
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Ddan on June 15, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
Can you stack up 2-3 crush washers to get more thread and then cut off the extra?
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
This looks promising...maybe dab some JB weld around the thread first.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-M10-1-0-Hexagon-Socket-Pipe-Plugs-Steel-DIN-906-/120910875821?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c26d98cad&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-M10-1-0-Hexagon-Socket-Pipe-Plugs-Steel-DIN-906-/120910875821?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c26d98cad&vxp=mtr)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzIwWDUwMA==/z/JH8AAOxy3NBSks9O/$_12.JPG)

Or maybe this stainless steel M10X1.0 "blanking plug"

(http://www.titaninst.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/1/21328224_2.jpg)
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Orrrr I wonder if there's enough pressure at this spot to run my oil pressure sender up from here?? Then I could just plug the normal spot where the pressure sender sits, I've always hated the look of that thing. Or stick an analog mini sensor there.
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 15, 2014, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: Buck Naked on June 15, 2014, 04:27:32 PM
This looks promising...maybe dab some JB weld around the thread first.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-M10-1-0-Hexagon-Socket-Pipe-Plugs-Steel-DIN-906-/120910875821?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c26d98cad&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-M10-1-0-Hexagon-Socket-Pipe-Plugs-Steel-DIN-906-/120910875821?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c26d98cad&vxp=mtr)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzIwWDUwMA==/z/JH8AAOxy3NBSks9O/$_12.JPG)

Or maybe this stainless steel M10X1.0 "blanking plug"

(http://www.titaninst.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/1/21328224_2.jpg)
This was for what I was going . . . either solution, NO JB Weld . . .

Quote from: Buck Naked on June 15, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Orrrr I wonder if there's enough pressure at this spot to run my oil pressure sender up from here?? Then I could just plug the normal spot where the pressure sender sits, I've always hated the look of that thing. Or stick an analog mini sensor there.
Is that the inlet side? You could try running a gauge to see if there's a difference that could be "too" large and then the OIL light wouldn't go off . . .
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Howie on June 15, 2014, 07:08:04 PM
Use the one in the second photo if it is the correct pitch.  The one in the first photo is a pipe thread.  You would be reading a lower pressure.   
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: Rudemouthsky on June 15, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
As long as it's not so low I have a constant idiot light I think this would be a cool mod. I could use a 10mm male to 1/8th female adapter and run an analog gauge where the pressure sensor currently resides. I've planned on doing that for my build anyway.
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: xcaptainxbloodx on June 17, 2014, 09:29:32 AM
Quote from: Buck Naked on June 15, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Orrrr I wonder if there's enough pressure at this spot to run my oil pressure sender up from here?? Then I could just plug the normal spot where the pressure sender sits, I've always hated the look of that thing. Or stick an analog mini sensor there.

I dont know if it has enough pressure there, but if you get part#  87721561A it will be a pressure switch with a bit of braided line and a banjo on the end.
Title: Re: sealing extra hole in oil cooler
Post by: memper on June 17, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Maybe get a T and make it part of the routing. Or take it to a tig welder and have it buttoned up.