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Title: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: malamikigo on June 25, 2014, 01:11:01 PM
Hey guys, considering an engine swap on my 696.  My current engine is due for some big service, has some oil leaks, and all in all is lookin to cost some decent coin.  I've got a line on low mile 796 engine that's a good deal (less than the maintenance costs of the 696) and just wondering how plug and play the swap would be? Is there anything on the 696 layout that would not be compatible?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 25, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
do you get the ECU with the engine?
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: malamikigo on June 25, 2014, 06:01:20 PM
No ECU, so I'll have to find one of those.
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 25, 2014, 06:03:46 PM
year of your bike?
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: malamikigo on June 25, 2014, 09:19:46 PM
2009. Engine is 2013.
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: DarkMonster620 on June 26, 2014, 03:43:49 AM
might need an ECU with NO ABS . . . if you dont have ABS on your bike, if you have an early 2010 with ABS you will need either an ECU with ABS or continuously turn ABS OFF from what I've seen in a "grey import" . . .

Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: Yogi on July 05, 2014, 07:03:34 AM
Couldn't you just get a rexxer reflash on your ecu, buy the 796 map.
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: Curmudgeon on July 05, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
Errr... Aren't there a few differences between the 796 and 696 exhausts?  ???
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: brad black on July 05, 2014, 10:55:39 PM
can't see why, it's the same motor externally.
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: ungeheuer on July 06, 2014, 01:35:58 AM
Quote from: Yogi on July 05, 2014, 07:03:34 AM
Couldn't you just get a rexxer reflash on your ecu, buy the 796 map.
Yes.  OP could have his 696 ECU reflashed as 796.

All seems like a somewhat weirdly complex way to avoid (costly) maintenance.  What when the 796 motor needs work? 
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: brad black on July 06, 2014, 01:59:52 AM
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 06, 2014, 01:35:58 AM
  What when the 796 motor needs work? 

1100 baby!
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: malamikigo on July 18, 2014, 07:07:20 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on July 06, 2014, 01:35:58 AM
Yes.  OP could have his 696 ECU reflashed as 796.

All seems like a somewhat weirdly complex way to avoid (costly) maintenance.  What when the 796 motor needs work? 

It wasn't so much to avoid the maintenance.  It just seemed like an interesting task, with little downside.  Gain myself a few horsepower, end up with an engine with much lower mileage, spend less money doing it?  I enjoy modding my bike...I've done a lot to it, I'm fine with spending money on it.  An engine swap just sounded like a fun project while also resolving my need to do that maintenance and gaining me horsepower. 

Alas, the project is not going ahead, as ebay communications with the seller of the engine proved that he sounded like a complete asshat and I wasn't comfortable buying it from him.  So, ahead I go with the maintenance to my own engine. 
Title: Re: 796 engine in 696?
Post by: brad black on July 19, 2014, 05:19:45 AM
a crank and a set of pistons and it will be a 796.