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Kitchen Sink => No Moto Content => Topic started by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 06:55:41 AM

Title: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 06:55:41 AM
If you're going to China for the olympics, you can forget dining on Fido.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25633945/

"oh, let's not show them real Chinese culture."

Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: OwnyTony on July 11, 2008, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 11, 2008, 06:55:41 AM
If you're going to China for the olympics, you can forget dining on Fido.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25633945/

"oh, let's not show them real Chinese culture."


what do you mean by the last line?

I really dont care what people eat for food.  Who cares if you eat dog, we eat cows and pigs and chickens.  How about we kill them ourselves and then eat the meat as we bleed the life out of them and see them shake violently as they die.  Ill still eat steaks after that. 
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: spolic on July 11, 2008, 08:07:39 AM
Quote from: OwnyTony on July 11, 2008, 07:49:26 AM
what do you mean by the last line?

I really dont care what people eat for food.  Who cares if you eat dog, we eat cows and pigs and chickens.  How about we kill them ourselves and then eat the meat as we bleed the life out of them and see them shake violently as they die.  Ill still eat steaks after that. 


I'll bring the grill!  [beer]
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Bick on July 11, 2008, 08:32:16 AM
It's summer.  More cat season.

Dog always seemed to be more winter fare.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: OwnyTony on July 11, 2008, 07:49:26 AM
what do you mean by the last line?

I really dont care what people eat for food.  Who cares if you eat dog, we eat cows and pigs and chickens.  How about we kill them ourselves and then eat the meat as we bleed the life out of them and see them shake violently as they die.  Ill still eat steaks after that. 

i think it's pretty obvious what i meant.

they don't want foreigners to see dogs being eaten, which is an element of their culture.  period.

same think that Korea did during the olympics.

i could care less if they eat dogs.  eat people for all i care.

point is, they want to hide it from foreigners instead of just going along as usual.

it is not like the driving ban (to reduce air pollution) or ads reminding Chinese to be polite to the foreigners.  it is no different than them deciding to hide the fact they eat with kui zi (chopsticks) or that women occasionally wear a qi pao.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Bick on July 11, 2008, 08:57:59 AM
The City of Denver (even though they are @ $40 million short of what they need to host the convention) has rented a several hundred hotel rooms far outside Denver city limits to house the homeless during the Democratic Convention in August.

During Super Bowls, World Series, etc., hosting citys will do the same.

Homeless problem?  What homeless problem?  We have no homeless problem!  [roll]


So glad to see tax dollars spent so well!

Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: OwnyTony on July 11, 2008, 09:05:15 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 11, 2008, 08:42:27 AM
i think it's pretty obvious what i meant.

Sorry, i didnt know if you were being sarcastic or not.  I was pointing out that all animals pretty much die in the same manner then whey are slaughtered.  Violent shaking as they hold on to dear life and you see and know that they are trying.  Sorry tasty animal, you just taste so good.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Bick on July 11, 2008, 09:18:32 AM
Question...

Is this really the Chinese government pushing this issue or is the IOC pressuring restaurants to do this because they are being pressured by other oganizations, i.e. PETA?
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: ducatiz on July 11, 2008, 09:20:10 AM
Quote from: Bick on July 11, 2008, 09:18:32 AM
Question...

Is this really the Chinese government pushing this issue or is the IOC pressuring restaurants to do this because they are being pressured by other oganizations, i.e. PETA?

good question, and it would explain south korea's decision to do the same thing.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: spolic on July 11, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
Quote from: Bick on July 11, 2008, 08:57:59 AM
The City of Denver (even though they are @ $40 million short of what they need to host the convention) has rented a several hundred hotel rooms far outside Denver city limits to house the homeless during the Democratic Convention in August.

During Super Bowls, World Series, etc., hosting citys will do the same.

Homeless problem?  What homeless problem?  We have no homeless problem!  [roll]


So glad to see tax dollars spent so well!


Why do you have to tick me off on a Friday with news like that?   geez!   
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Bick on July 11, 2008, 10:35:50 AM
Quote from: spolic on July 11, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
Why do you have to tick me off on a Friday with news like that?   geez!   

Because I want to share all my pissedoffness with everyone.  [evil]
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: He Man on July 11, 2008, 08:39:13 PM
In certain parts of china food is still hard to come by because everything that you produce needs to be sold to the government so other people can eat. So if your dog is dying or your dog has bitten someone, its going to be eaten. Same is true for ox's. THe only animals actually bred for food are pigs chicken and cute little ducks (that taste so good roasted!!!!)

Am i oppose to the chinese eating dogs, damn right, i think its totally not cool to be serving an animal like that in a restaurant. Though i have to say, i would not have a problem eating a wolf. It might just be the impact society has on me about dogs and cats.


HOWEVER, i dont like cats, i will eat you if you scratch me kitty. [wine]
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: OwnyTony on July 11, 2008, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: He Man on July 11, 2008, 08:39:13 PM
In certain parts of china food is still hard to come by because everything that you produce needs to be sold to the government so other people can eat. So if your dog is dying or your dog has bitten someone, its going to be eaten. Same is true for ox's. THe only animals actually bred for food are pigs chicken and cute little ducks (that taste so good roasted!!!!)

Am i oppose to the chinese eating dogs, damn right, i think its totally not cool to be serving an animal like that in a restaurant. Though i have to say, i would not have a problem eating a wolf. It might just be the impact society has on me about dogs and cats.


HOWEVER, i dont like cats, i will eat you if you scratch me kitty. [wine]

Sure, i dont like the idea of eating dogs myself but what you write is some what "America" centric isnt it?  What if India was the wold power right now?  They hold the cow sacred.  Does that mean their opposition as to what we eat should have any bearing as to rather or not we can eat delicious steak?  I sure hope not. 

Im not really dumping on you.  There is a reason why my initial post on this topic said that all things die in the same manner (shake violently as they hold on to dear life).  Just because one culture holds a particular animal in a high regard due to it being a pet/part of the family and another culture holds a particular animal sacred, does not mean that one is better than the other.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: He Man on July 11, 2008, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: OwnyTony on July 11, 2008, 08:49:59 PM
Sure, i dont like the idea of eating dogs myself but what you write is some what "America" centric isnt it?  What if India was the wold power right now?  They hold the cow sacred.  Does that mean their opposition as to what we eat should have any bearing as to rather or not we can eat delicious steak?  I sure hope not. 

Im not really dumping on you.  There is a reason why my initial post on this topic said that all things die in the same manner (shake violently as they hold on to dear life).  Just because one culture holds a particular animal in a high regard due to it being a pet/part of the family and another culture holds a particular animal sacred, does not mean that one is better than the other.

thats exactly my point. I think i only feel that way because i live in America. And youre right everything dies in the end, which is why people over there eat whatever they can get their hands on. "My dad told me once, god made all living beings and everythign deserves an equal chance to be eaten by anyone, so get the make the beast with two backs out of my way. " And i agree, everything dies in the end becasue everything is food for another animal. I just dont feel like eating a dog, but dont get me wrong, ill eat anything if you cook it right. Hell I've already eaten some stuff that most people would probably shun me for. And it all sucked (except for rattle snake and shark fin, and the exotic animal spirits ive drank)

And comeon, yall didnt click that link, saw those noodles in soup and god "damn i could go for some chinese food?"??? YOUR ALL SICK!!!! im hungry.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Bick on July 12, 2008, 05:44:07 AM
 http://www.youtube.com/v/NmXxrMC5Pv4&hl=en&fs=1
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on July 12, 2008, 06:42:57 AM
I lived in Korea for 5 years.

You know those machines used to pluck chickens - looks like a washing machine filled with cheese graters? Well, that is how dogs are killed in restaurants in korea - tossed in there  & flayed alive: it takes them a long time to die.

I would definitely stop eating beef if cows were tortured to death.  :-[
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: DY on July 14, 2008, 12:38:28 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on July 12, 2008, 06:42:57 AM
I would definitely stop eating beef if cows were tortured to death.  :-[

but they are!

http://www.broadcaster.com/clip/6361

I'll still eat em though....and I cant really complain, until the day comes when I start killing my own cows and gutting/skinning/chopping them in my kitchen.

edit:  I just watched the whole video and its pretty GRAPHIC.  so dont click the link if you've got a weak stomache!
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Bick on July 14, 2008, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on July 12, 2008, 06:42:57 AM
I would definitely stop eating beef if cows were tortured to death.  :-[

Are you going to limit your consumption to Kobe Beef?
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on July 12, 2008, 06:42:57 AM
I would definitely stop eating beef if cows were tortured to death.  :-[

Ever been in a slaughter house in the US?


I am guessing that is a negative.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: Magnus on July 14, 2008, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 12:49:04 PM
Ever been in a slaughter house in the US?


I am guessing that is a negative.

do they give tours?
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 01:25:06 PM
Quote from: Magnus on July 14, 2008, 01:19:49 PM
do they give tours?

Probably not.

I have a cousin who worked at a slaughterhouse for a summer.


It ain't pretty or really humane.
Title: Re: bu che xiang rou!
Post by: NuTTs on July 14, 2008, 05:49:39 PM
(http://www.c-ref.de/gallery/albums/chinalife/food/DSC00888.jpg)

[puke] [puke] [puke]

delicacy my ass  >:(