Ducati Monster Forum

There's been many threads comparing the two but has anyone on here considered trading their Monster 1100 for a SF848?

I haven't ridden the SF848 but keep hearing the engine is so much smoother than the 1100 EVO. Also when initally getting my EVO I was heavily comparing the two. The seating on the SF was better for me, its a little taller and I'm 6 ft 3 but I always like the monsters and found a great deal on one so I went with the monster. I ride half city half highway and most ppl suggested the monster handles the city way better.

I've ridden it all summer and the bike is great but I find myself looking at the SF a lot and lusting over it.  Having some buyer remorse I guess.

That is a question only you can answer.  If you want to trade a good looking Monster for an ugly Street Fighter it is up to you.  Of course someone else will think the exact opposite so refer to the first sentence above.   ;D

From what people have said so far since I have no fhe.
The evo has more grunt which you might miss. Of course the SF has more top end, which you may or may not use. Too smooth can be boring and smoothness can be a matter of good tuning. The evo is the last of the air cooled big bores. Just my opinion.
In the end, its up to your taste.

ride one and see how you find it.

^ This is the only way to really know.

Having owned a couple of 4V's, I agree they are smoother. Is that worth all the servicing costs, complexity and plumbing? Your decision naturally. Was a no-brainer for me and I didn't even need the extra cc's. You have a very good chassis there already though!

BTW, if you haven't switched out the stock seat for a Sargent and fitted a 14T, you are probably missing a lot from your EVO.  8)

I have been comparing these two lately as well.  I am also throwing the monster 821 into the mix.  I have not ridden the SF or the 821 yet, but I would imagine that the 821 would be more similar to the SF than the 1100.

Cool. In meantime The 14T is going on this weekend I actually got it last week.

The 821 looks cool too but I really dig single sided swing arms

You must be a plant from Ducati Streetfighter Forum (http://www.ducatifighter.com/). Banish him with fire!  ;D

I moved from a 796 to a SFS and I'm totally happy with it.  There was nothing wrong with my 796 but I found the personality and the riding position of the SF to just agree with me more.  It also being the last duc with a full trellis and dry clutch was also nice.

If I were you, I'd take a look around for a used SFS1098 too.  You can find them for around the same price or cheaper than a SF848 new.

nice. But you still read the Monster forum?  ;)

I had a customer with an SF1098, he wanted to use it for an around-town commuter.

It drove him crazy, trolling along at 35 mph was the last thing it wanted to do.
It wanted to GO!

 I'm riding a Bimota butt I still read the Monster forum! What about it?????

that's the difference between the 1098 in either trim and the 848 . .  the 848 is a bit more rideable . . . but a 1100 is rideable everywhere in the rpm range

1098 sf are not very nice at low speed.  848 is much more docile, but it's a bit gutless at lower rpm.  plus i find i feel like i'm sitting on the front wheel.  monster is much more comfy and power is much more accessible.

The two bikes are actually very different.  I bought my Monster 1100 EVO new in 2011 as a 2012 model and the SF848 came out about 6 months later.  My dealer had a yellow one as a demo model and I rode it a few times and was smitten with it each time.  It is definitely smoother and I think it is a better city bike than the M1100 by far.  That said, the seat is not very comfortable but then the seat on the Monster isn't very comfortable either.  The riding position on the SF848 is a bit more aggressive too IMO and the SF lacks TC and ABS but it handles well and it is a rev happy puppy that I just love to play with.

I probably would have bought the SF848 if it had been available and I had ridden it before I bought my bike.  I came from a high-revving liquid-cooled V-twin to a relatively low revving air-cooled L-twin so it was a big adjustment for me.  I've had my M1100 EVO for 3 years and put over 15,000 miles on it... I think the SF848 would suit me better but I'm not rich so I'm keeping the Monster for now.

My .02.

The end may be near for the SF's. Will they climb in value like the Sport 1Ks as they become more scarce? If they stopped making Monsters tomorrow there are definitely way more out there than SF's. I like em both but why are you not considering the 1200? Thats got SSA & is more comfortable than both the 1100 & SF.

Best ducati forum there is imo... the sheer amount of knowledge in the tech/mods section is ridiculous as well as one of the best moderated boards out there.  Haha, asshats tend not to last long here ;)

And I'd agree that the sf1098 isnt the best at low speeds, I'm sure my clutch is going to die faster from all the NYC traffic... but I tend to choose my bikes on how much I love them vs how practical they are.  I'm willing to deal with minor issues for the SF and chalk it up to character but a perfectly practical bike tends just become boring to me.

Ride them all and choose the one that reminds you why you started riding in the first place ;)

All true...but if you are a full blooded hooligan with some skills and have a die hard Ducati heart then the SF1098 is the only way to go!  [evil]  [Dolph]

i found the 1098sf a real let down.  certainly not the animal i was expecting.

You must have a different set of standards. What were you expecting? Or was that a teasing, tongue-in-cheek kind of statement?

dunno.

i find a 1098 more aggressive, the sf just seems to not be as responsive as the sbk.  i keep waiting for them to do big wheelies, but they don't without provocation.  maybe i'm just more comfortable on the sbk .

Did you try it with the TC off?  Evidently there is a function that kills wheelies unless it's off... it never really comes up for me unless I disable it.  But with it off it comes up real fast.

dunno, i don't adjust settings like that on customer bikes.

That reminds me, I need to check the TC settings since I did my valve adjustment.  I usually leave it off.

It's such a personal question and come down to which seating position you like better and how much you care about the sound -- which is infinitely better and more ducati on the air-cooled monster. The sf 848 will be far better in the city.

I want to ride and SFS to see what it's like! I hear it's a beast that's not easy to master. I rode the 1098 sbk and i found the 1199 so much easier to ride.

P.s. this is the best ducati forum by far and the new monster, at least the 1200s I've ridden, is completely devoid of character. I find the multi and the Diavel make much better use of the same engine.

I was relly suprised how big the new 1200 looked in person, the seat also looks really low and cruiser like, it even looked heavy sitting there, wasn't feeling it.

The EVO's motor, torquey and a lot smoother after my MW reflash and custom Bazzaz tune was great, however I felt really cramped on the bike even with the DP comfort seat. Just felt too small for me.

The SF fits just right, I prefer the fit, height, and riding position just so much more. I just feel the bike is for me. The engine is smooth and powerful. Although I did really like the EVO even though I felt like I needed to shift more. All in all beloved EVO is gone and I am atop a new SF848.

"The SF fits just right, I prefer the fit, height, and riding position just so much more. I just feel the bike is for me. "

 That is all that really matters, isn't it?

Congrats! Glad to see you stayed in the family.

i want a hyper SP [drool] since you mention height and riding position.

but i'm glad you like the SF -- better engine a will be sought after like the SCs soon.

Hope you're right, I made 5k on selling my Sportclassic
 

   ^ this

  Awesome choice!

 I felt the same when I was upgrading from my m696. The SF fit better.  I found an 1100S so cheap that I could not pass it up. I only regret the better size of the SF.

I'm looking at a new bike for early next season. For me it's between 2015 Diavel, SF848, Monster 1200s, SportClassic S (with bubble fairing).

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The sportclassic was a great bike. Everyone oogled it everywhere and ran smooth as butter. Problem for me was riding position was even more extreme than a sportbike and two i found myself looking and admiring it more than riding it. I was too scared to scratch it.

LMAO

 [laugh] No kidding.  I've ridden the Diavel, the SF848 and a Sport Classic and the only one of those 3 I'd ever consider owning to ride on a daily basis is the SF.  The Sport Classic is a good bike but the wire wheels let it down as does the suspension.  They look cool as hell and they are good bikes but just not as good as they could be.  The Diavel is fast as hell and handles and brakes well but it is cartoonish in looks and the riding position just doesn't work for me at all.  I think the Monster 1200 is just a Monsterized Diavel.  The SF848 is pure hooligan.  And I love that about it.

What's interesting is the dealer told me the SF's never sold that well except recently they've had a real uptick in sales. Could be ppl like myself, sdrider and a few other monster owners who got a monster couple years ago and are deciding to change

That might be the ONLY thing they have in common with SC's.  ;D I wouldn't count on re-sale residuals..., but what do I know.  [roll]

Biggest strike against SF is the fact that it's more of an "on top" rather than "in" riding position.

On top is not necessarily a bad thing. For me the SF should have been the next evolution of the Monster. It's far more hooligan than the direction the Monster line took.