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Whose list will Marco be on?

I suspect he's already got a contract, seeing as he didn't go along with the shenanigans.

Red Devil WSBK squad...on an Ape. I actually agree with what he did, although I'm still not a fan.

I was suprised that he did it in race#1.

I was even more suprised that Baz did it as well.


Bummed for Rea :(

I should clarify...I agree with what he did in race 2. If his teammate can't beat him, then tough.

Maybe this thread should have a spoiler tag?

I wonder what the arrangement is on prize money and finishing position bonuses, points total bonuses, etc?

Because if that's not arranged prior, that a rider will be compensated for his loss, then the teams haven't much of a leg to stand on demanding a rider relinquish a position.

And it does damage a rider's credibility with his personal sponsors.
If I were a personal sponsor of a rider, I'd be furious with the team.
It'd be no better than if I walked onto the grid and punched my rider's teammate in the neck.

Race your teammate fair, and don't do something stupid and take him out.

Aprilia's done it before, and will likely do it again...if they get a rider close enough to a championship ever again.

As much suck as team orders are, I'm kinda glad Kawasaki played the same game to cut Aprilia's new advantage down a bit so it will hopefully come down to a more skillful matchup next race.

Haven't seen the races yet but now I want to more than ever. Just have to sit down with a beer & hit playback.   [Dolph]

Checca wins both...and Darth is Luke's dad.

http://www.motomatters.com/results/2014/10/05/2014_magny_cours_world_superbike_sunday_.html (http://www.motomatters.com/results/2014/10/05/2014_magny_cours_world_superbike_sunday_.html)

I think.... Two things


1. Boobies


2. Depending on where or when in the season team orders come into play, how the rider reacts changes. If this were early in the season and Aprilla wants him to slow down... Sucks to be them if he doesn't. But last week with manufacturers title points at stake... I think he should have conceded to the request. Its not like everybody who saw the race thinks he didn't have it in him to win it, even his sponsors.

Sponsor want to see their rider on the top step.

How were manufacturer points at stake? Aprilia still got a 1-2 finish.

I'm trying to find a picture of the pit board.

dipshit pushing to pass takes out both (it has happened) or dipshit pushing crashes himself out (very likely in those conditions)

Aprilla butters his bread and I think that if you want to race for a mfg that has multiple riders, the TEAM and what the TEAM wants is paramount. I look at that race and say.... Marco won, even if he gives up his spot in race two, same as in race one. Everybody knows who really won, so why not take one for the team? I'd rather have "team player" on my resume than "fast selfish midgit".

We'll have to just disagree then. Riding smart like you describe is one thing...the fastest rider backing off so a teammate can win is BS IMO (unless one rider personally owes the other one...ala Pedro owing Hayden back in 2006). This is racing...I think the fastest guy should always win the race.  :)

Racing isn't really a team sport...at least not between the riders (the team is the rider and his crew). The first guy a racer should always beat is his teammate. This isn't baseball.

I agree that it's not a team based sport, but if you sign up to ride for a team in a non-team enviroment, then you do what your employer wants.

I've always thought that any team that has multiple riders in a single event is a bit daft in the noggin.

If Marco complies and Sylvain wins the championship.... Marco gets to say " you're welcome"...  If Marco does not comply and Tom wins the championship... Marco gets to say "you're welcome."  Marco has no chance in winning the champaionship, but he does have an opportunity to be a team player who is owed a big thank you from somebody. I'd rather be the guy knowing I was the best, and knowing the other guy only won because I was a good teamplayer, not because he was better than me. I also think that plays into future race psychology. It'll always be in the back of Sylvain and Sykes heads.

 [thumbsup]    [laugh]

FWIW...I want Tom to win the championship.

He's going to have to work a bit for it now!

Wowzer!



Great Qatar races [thumbsup]