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Title: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: trontastic on December 19, 2014, 03:52:31 AM

Hello everyone.
This my first post. And 1st ever Ducati / V-twin bike.
I come from owning a few jap 4's over the last 30 years.

What are the usual failure parts on this particular Model ( S2R 800. 2005 ) 12,000 miles on the Odo.
Call me paranoid but i have been worried about being let down too much by such great looking motorbikes, and want to keep and cherish it !! ;D

Oh yeh already got the place i bought it from to fix the left hand LCD ( a freebie ).
I look forward to the replies. And hope i've stuck it in the right forum area . Cheers. [beer]


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: jduke on December 19, 2014, 06:08:43 AM
Can you get the complete service history? This is the most important info to get.
Without it, you're looking at belts, valve check, filters, etc. Easily $800 - $1000 at a dealer.
Unless you want to set up payment plans at the dealer, you need to plan on working on the bike yourself.
Get the LT Repair manual - www.desmotimes.com (http://)
Get to know http://ca-cycleworks.com/ (http://ca-cycleworks.com/) great source for belts and parts and home of the BEST video's on how to do the valves and belts yourself.
Go through both sides and make notes of all the tools and parts you'll need and start accumulating them.
Find a fellow Ducati rider in your area and ask him/her to come over one Saturday and give you some pointers.
Start with the easy stuff, change the fuel filter and check out the hoses in the tank, change the oil / filter, change or clean the air filter, change the spark plugs. While you're there pull the cam belt covers and take a look at the belt system.
Learn to do as much as you can yourself. That way you know it was done right.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: trontastic on December 19, 2014, 07:11:32 AM
Thanks jduke.
I'm UK based and i'm on the uk monster forum as well.
So i will have a world wide help base if need be.
Yeh the guy who sold it me has done the belts / oil / plugs Etc.. plus he
give it a 12 month MOT ( uk test ) so i got a good deal.
He was a great help and is a v. good mechanic, he even got in touch with the previous owner and made him look
for a spare black key  :) which he found  [thumbsup]
Cant wait to have a good ride out !!
I will be able to tackle nearly all jobs myself as i used to work in the car industry for 12 years ( TVR Cars ) ( google it  :) ).


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: stopintime on December 19, 2014, 07:38:27 AM
My first 50,000km resulted in a warranty replaced oil pressure sensor, two clutch packs + of course the regular services.

If you race the bike, expect to deal with known problems with the APTC (~slipper) clutch. Other than that, pretty much bullet proof.

I strongly recommend lots of care - they seem to love lots of care and respond by working so much better. Grease what should be greased, adjust and lubricate the chain, tire pressure, fork oil, brake fluid.... much like what you're probably used to.

After a while you might find a thing or two that you want to modify and then the fun begins  [thumbsup] (brakes, suspension, geometry + + +)

Welcome and have fun [Dolph]


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: xsephirot on December 19, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
Don't forget about needing to tighten and red loctite down that clutch nut in case it undos and causes massive engine failure.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: SpikeC on December 19, 2014, 06:44:22 PM
 OOOh, TVR!! Very cool!


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: Howie on December 19, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
If you can deal with a TVR you can definitely deal with a Ducati!


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: Ducatamount on December 20, 2014, 05:22:01 AM
My brother's S2R rear hub combusted after either having the rear brake adjusted so it was slightly dragging or it ignited from him, inadvertently, having his foot on the brake lever (jury's still out).
Anyways I've heard it's kind of touchy to get it adjusted properly.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: trontastic on December 20, 2014, 12:06:01 PM
Thank you to everyone who has replied .
It has got rid of the thought of buying the wrong bike for me.
The Reg/Rec and battery are the first spares i'm going for ( piece of mind ).

Glad to say i had the chance to go for a decent ride on it today while the weather was quite good. What a difference to my 1200 Bandit. Took about 10 miles to get used to it. First thing i did was miss the rear brake pedal completely, it's well tooked in !!
Only did 50 miles on it but i just know it'll be great for a blast up the back roads to the Lake district / Devils Bridge Etc.. Put a great big smile on my face like the Suzy, but for completely different reasons, excellent
Thank you all for the info, plus all the info on and around this forum.
Cheers.
Dave.
P.S. Yeh Spike TVR was a great place to work ( well the first 7 years were  8) ), and Howie i was helping in making them bad, even from new they were made on the cheap.   [roll]


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: Howie on December 21, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
My bad,trontastic.  Great car, just a wee bit more inconvenient to own than a Toyota, particularly on this side of the pond. 


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: trontastic on December 21, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
Hey Howie not your bad, it's close to the truth. TVR's are terrible cars to own and look after. Even over here you just dont see them on the road's anymore.
Now they are a totally unreliable car !!
Anyway the factory does not exsist any more and they are going to build an Ice Rink on the site  [roll]

Going to use the Duke as much as i can during the Christmas hols.
 [Dolph]


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: djomlas on December 22, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
clusters LOL, thy get wet and don't work, or make your whole bike non-rideable hahahah


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: Howie on December 23, 2014, 06:07:59 AM
clusters LOL, thy get wet and don't work, or make your whole bike non-rideable hahahah


Yep.  Not much you can do about the cluster itself, but if you have the computer flashed to get rid of the immobilizer the bike will start if the dash fails.  You can then also run an after market cluster.

Some bikes have been through multiple clusters, some never.

Back in my youth it was predicted I would own one of these:
http://www.tvrblog.com/tvr-griffith-400-a-stunning-car/ (http://www.tvrblog.com/tvr-griffith-400-a-stunning-car/)
Never happened.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: trontastic on December 23, 2014, 07:22:09 AM
Wow thats a mint example !!
A guy in Blackpool still has the original moulds for them. And chassis jigs as well i think  :)
Does a lot of spare's and keeps them on the road.  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: MostroS2R on January 14, 2015, 07:49:04 AM
Hey stopintime, how did you know your clutch packs were on the way out? Mine isn't slipping or anything but I noticed my clutch oil a little low.

My first 50,000km resulted in a warranty replaced oil pressure sensor, two clutch packs + of course the regular services.

If you race the bike, expect to deal with known problems with the APTC (~slipper) clutch. Other than that, pretty much bullet proof.

I strongly recommend lots of care - they seem to love lots of care and respond by working so much better. Grease what should be greased, adjust and lubricate the chain, tire pressure, fork oil, brake fluid.... much like what you're probably used to.

After a while you might find a thing or two that you want to modify and then the fun begins  [thumbsup] (brakes, suspension, geometry + + +)

Welcome and have fun [Dolph]


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: stopintime on January 14, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
Hey stopintime, how did you know your clutch packs were on the way out? Mine isn't slipping or anything but I noticed my clutch oil a little low.


It started slipping at peak torque - around 6-7,000 revs.

You won't be in doubt when it happens, but it wasn't dramatic.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: MostroS2R on January 15, 2015, 06:31:32 AM
No slip on mine.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: Heath on January 19, 2015, 10:10:35 AM
I bought my 06 S2R800 new, sold it last fall and only put 18K on it or so. Very bullet proof bike for the most part. I did experience the expanding tank problem though twice. The second time the dealer drug their feet on the repair then denied me due to law suit deadline. I was pretty upset, voiced my opinion but no one cared. That's fine they don't need my money anymore.

I broke the oil temp sensor once. My fault though I either kicked the wire or took off the clip wrong. Easy fix and only $60 or so.

My plastic crankcase breather developed a leak. Once it did I just bought an aluminum one and replaced it. I like the Nichols crankcase breather myself.

Other than that everything was upgrades, maintenance, and upgrades.  ;)

Manuals
Right click>Save Link As..
Workshop Manual S2R800 (http://www.mikemo.org/bikes/manuals/Workshop_Manual_S2R_06.pdf)
Owner's Manual S2R800 (http://www.mikemo.org/bikes/manuals/MS2R_S2RDARK_2006_it_en_fr_de.pdf)
Spare Parts Catalog S2R800  (http://www.mikemo.org/bikes/manuals/MS2R800_Usa_07_Parts.pdf)


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: Jonathan on January 19, 2015, 11:47:57 AM
Earlier this year I found a 2005 s2r with 480 miles. Just to be safe I replaced the belts and all fluids. I'm about to do the valves and replace both tires. The oil pressure sensor started leaking oil so I replaced that with a unit from Napa that works quite well. I love the bike. It's my first Duc after riding a Buell. I figured all twins make power down low but this this bike seems to like to really rev. So far I've been happy and the matenence since I do it myself hasn't been very expensive.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: techno on January 21, 2015, 07:02:24 PM
I bought my S2R800 with 9000km on it and sold it recently with 46000km. It never missed a beat and never let me down. [thumbsup]

My only advice is to look after it. Regular oil changes, service it according to the schedule and keep it clean and it will serve you well.


Title: Re: S2R 800 General failures.
Post by: eric on February 10, 2015, 12:12:26 PM
I bought mine at 9k miles, now it has around 42k miles. Other than the expanding fuel tank (replaced free of charge thanks to the only useful class action lawsuit in known history), the wiring in the fuel pump assembly corroded, leading to the fuel pump getting no power (quick diy fix, about $100 in parts). Nothing else too unexpected that I can remember.

On the whole though I've been fairly satisfied with its reliability.


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