Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 16, 2015, 09:18:25 AM Build is an homage to the 1973/1974 Ducati 750 Sport, using a 2006 DS1000SS as the starting point. Not meant to be an exact REPLICA of the 750 Sport, but to pay tribute to it with a lighter, more powerful, model, while using as many oem Ducati components as possible, with the bike being very light, very comfortable (thus, no clip-on handlebars) and very street friendly. No lightweight flywheel, no high compression pistons, no straight pipes, but tractable and flickable; not a track bike. So it will have lights, turn signals, a horn, etc. Target wet weight is 360 pounds. I think.
Rough mockup; featuring a "Sprint" model ETI Fuel Cel, a Monster front fender, a Ducati 916 monoposto tail, BUB Enterprises slip-on exhaust, a "razor cut" rear rotor, and a early model (first generation; 1991-1998) 900SS/SP alloy sidestand with alloy mounting boss. (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/16289484028_30c6a95df5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qPrS5U)Ducati 1000SS project homage to Ducati 750 Sport (https://flic.kr/p/qPrS5U) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7332/16451173856_a8898a2dff_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r4JyQy)Ducati 1000SS - homage to the 1973/1974 Ducati 750 Sport (https://flic.kr/p/r4JyQy) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr At this point the bike already has had the rear part of the oem steel one-piece frame cut off, and tabs have been welded on to accept an oem Ducati 916 monoposto aluminum rear subframe: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/15741099084_b4b8bdb7e8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pYZfm5)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/pYZfm5) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8663/16361807811_0666431111_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qVQxqF)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/qVQxqF) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8562/16177655587_f9fa62eb96_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qDyHok) (https://flic.kr/p/qDyHok) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7304/16287051229_ebd8f22e6d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qPeoU6)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/qPeoU6) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Black anodized stock 1000SS swingarm; with titanium rear axle: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/16271801698_2b42350d05_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qMTeK9)black_anodized_swingarm_1 (https://flic.kr/p/qMTeK9) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr The "rider's eye" view will include these European Ducati GT1000 Sport Classic gauges, a Flanders "superbike bend" chrome steel handlebar, and Ducati 999 Superbike radial master cylinders (clutch and brake) with integrated fluid reservoirs. This is a stock S2R1000 triple clamp assembly with the top triple being the S2R800 item sized for a standard 7/8" handlebar. The triple will have to be modified to work in the 1000SS steering head, as pointed out by multiple forum members: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7316/16177651077_40a1605b58_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qDyG3z) (https://flic.kr/p/qDyG3z) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/16309875037_f90721ff58_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qRfnC2)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/qRfnC2) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr This is just a bunch of carbon fiber parts sourced off of eBay; trying to make the bike as light as it possibly can be and still be street legal and look somewhat "stock." (Albeit stock Ducati stuff from multiple Ducati models!) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7332/16190267857_27bea7e45a_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qEFmzg) (https://flic.kr/p/qEFmzg) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7447/16273254489_0ee17bf78f_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qN1FBg)carbon_fiber_monoposto_tail (https://flic.kr/p/qN1FBg) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7577/16296458532_1c39d5fc2a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qQ4BmY)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/qQ4BmY) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7517/15644664753_dc32ccec61_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pQsZMc)CF_Cam_Belt_Covers (https://flic.kr/p/pQsZMc) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8628/16078444199_b5b8b09c8f_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/quNeia)CF_916_Rear_Fender (https://flic.kr/p/quNeia) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: rufus1138 on January 16, 2015, 09:23:17 AM [popcorn] looking forward to this, sounds super cool
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Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on January 16, 2015, 10:43:20 AM Great project Tim. Ill be watching this one.
Cheers. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: brad black on January 16, 2015, 05:07:40 PM the ss uses different steering head bearings to the monster, so the monster lower triple won't fit the ss frame. i think the offset is different also.
Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 16, 2015, 06:29:43 PM I did this with a 1992 Ducati 750SS a million years ago, using Monster 900 triples. Will have to investigate the different bearings available.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on January 16, 2015, 11:13:16 PM Along the lines of what Brad said:
DS1000 - 0691.91.010 Bearing S2R - 702.4.004.1A Bearing Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: brad black on January 17, 2015, 02:07:57 AM I have new steering head bearings. The offset is different , but as I mentioned; I have an S2R top triple. are they special ones to mate an ss frame with a monster stem? ss stem is 26mm, frame 52mm, monster stem is 35, frame 55. i don't know of a 26 x 55 bearing, but all balls may list one. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Rudemouthsky on January 17, 2015, 08:59:36 AM [popcorn]
Title: . Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 17, 2015, 03:22:43 PM .
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: brad black on January 17, 2015, 05:02:16 PM 1st gen monster is same bearing as ss, the triple you show is second gen or st frame. hence our input.
the bearing required doesn't exist afaik. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 17, 2015, 07:02:38 PM .
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 17, 2015, 07:12:12 PM If the monster stem is 35mm and the SS frame is 52mm (I haven't measured anything; both my SS's are in Winchester right now) wouldn't I need bearings with an I.D. of 35mm and an O.D. of 52mm; not a 26x55?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: brad black on January 17, 2015, 08:52:07 PM If the monster stem is 35mm and the SS frame is 52mm (I haven't measured anything; both my SS's are in Winchester right now) wouldn't I need bearings with an I.D. of 35mm and an O.D. of 52mm; not a 26x55? sounds right to me. still can't get them afaik. Title: . Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 25, 2015, 07:04:36 AM .
Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 27, 2015, 05:35:07 AM Modifications to the S2R1000 Monster triple tree assembly involved pressing the stem out of the 1000SS lower triple, then machining bushings to allow that stem to be used with the S2R1000 upper and lower triples:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8617/16104388783_8d56c1f4c4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qx6cHz)Triple clamp modifications (https://flic.kr/p/qx6cHz) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on January 29, 2015, 05:59:22 PM What is this going to weigh compared to the 750SS that you had?
Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 30, 2015, 08:14:29 AM So I've had a couple of 750's over the years; I had a 1992 750SS that I bought new, then modified into a naked roadster (much like this build) and then later turned into a CCS club racebike. I also had a 2001 750SSi.e. that I lightened with Marchesini wheels, and 1000SS alloy swingarm, and carbon fiber slip-ons.
I don't think any of them were as light as I hope to make this bike. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on February 02, 2015, 03:57:40 PM I don't know which 750 it was . I remember you telling me it had 50 hp. However it probably had the most perfect suspension setup ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok so this current bike is probably going to be bonkers, isn't there a different crank to up the displacement just a pinch more. i mean if you are going through ALL the TROUBLE of porting the heads and a big bore, perhaps a different crank will yield substantial results. Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 03, 2015, 05:18:35 AM I had not thought of extra stroke, just boring it. Will have to look into that!
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on February 03, 2015, 09:24:58 AM Very little room for extra stroke on the 1000/1100 motors.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Duck-Stew on February 03, 2015, 11:25:50 AM Very little room for extra stroke on the 1000/1100 motors. Is there any?!? The damned crank & rods won't rotate cleanly around unless the rods are aligned to their respective bores as the rod bolt bosses hang up on the timing lay shaft... Title: . Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 06, 2015, 01:55:21 PM .
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 08, 2015, 05:17:48 PM .
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 10, 2015, 05:48:24 PM Yes, looks like I'll just be able to have it bored out, not stroked.
Title: . Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 16, 2015, 11:46:43 AM Picked up a pair of new Napoleon Baren chrome bar-end mirrors:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1491/26178088893_ea8c71371f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FTgxNe)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/FTgxNe) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Funny; when I was younger I put the black version of these on just about every motorcycle I ever owned. I always thought the black was sportier than the chrome. Now I'm "regressing" to the chrome since the target look is early 1970's, before the satin black, black chrome, matte black "look" ever got any traction. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Duck-Stew on February 17, 2015, 06:18:32 AM Interesting build... I'm watching this unfold. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Rudemouthsky on February 17, 2015, 06:28:09 PM Picked up a pair of new Napoleon Baren chrome bar-end mirrors like this one: (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f134/80gs750/1977%20XS650D/mirror3.jpg) (http://s46.photobucket.com/user/80gs750/media/1977%20XS650D/mirror3.jpg.html) Funny; when I was younger I put the black version of these on ejust about every motorcycle I ever owned. I always thought the black was sporitier than the chrome. Now I'm "regressing" to the chrome since the target look is early 1970's, before the satin black, clack chrome, matte black "look" ever got any tractin. You should find a NOS set of those "titty" grips while yer at it. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: MotoPsycho on February 18, 2015, 09:10:19 AM http://revivalcycles.com/collections/for-your-ride-controls-grips (http://revivalcycles.com/collections/for-your-ride-controls-grips)
I like those ones. I'd put them on an older model to keep the retro look. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Wzed on February 18, 2015, 06:08:21 PM On Tuesday, I dropped the S2R triple assembly off at Ducati of Winchester for Donnie Unger to commence with the steering stem replacement. I'm curious what your experience with them will be. If it's anything like mine, it will be months before you see that triple. Those guys are sloooow, and Donnie's pretty rude. Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 18, 2015, 06:49:56 PM Well, I'll let you know.
I expect that my experience will be pretty good; I've known Donnie since I first raced against him in 1998, long before he opened his Ducati franchise. He built the engine in my S4Rs, and that turned out well. He sponsored my 2008 AMA Moto-ST endurance racing team Screamin' Duc Racing and built a couple of nationally competetive Ducati 800SS racebikes for the team, traveled with us and wrenched for us at his own expense, and we had an awful lot of fun racing as real old guys. He just finished modifying the frame of this project bike to accept an alloy 916 monoposto subframe; did a nice job and turned it around quickly and at about 1/4 the price of the last frame I had similarly modified by someone else. So I'm cautiously optimistic. Also, picked up a set of late model 848 grips for the project while I was up there. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Wzed on February 19, 2015, 07:48:35 AM Well, I'll let you know. I expect that my experience will be pretty good; I've known Donnie since I first raced against him in 1998, long before he opened his Ducati franchise. He built the engine in my S4Rs, and that turned out well. He sponsored my 2008 AMA Moto-ST endurance racing team Screamin' Duc Racing and built a couple of nationally competetive Ducati 800SS racebikes for the team, traveled with us and wrenched for us at his own expense, and we had an awful lot of fun racing as real old guys. He just finished modifying the frame of this project bike to accept an alloy 916 monoposto subframe; did a nice job and turned it around quickly and at about 1/4 the price of the last frame I had similarly modified by someone else. So I'm cautiously optimistic. Also, picked up a set of late model 848 grips for the project while I was up there. I guess with that shop it helps to know the owner, or maybe you need to be a race buddy to be treated like a customer. Because when I brought Duc Pond Motorsports work that should have taken a couple of weeks, it took them a couple of months, with mistake after mistake, delay after delay, and excuse after excuse. Maybe I got the B team. When I wrote Donnie about it, he sent me a nasty email, which is a strange thing to do to someone who's paying you thousands and thousands of dollars. Then they delivered the bike with faults in the electrics that weren't there before and three blown fuses (guess they didn't bother to check if it actually ran before it left the shop). At that point, I didn't even bother to contact them again - I just took it someplace else. So yeah, hope you have better experience than I did. Sorry for thread jack. Title: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 20, 2015, 01:55:54 AM I guess with that shop it helps to know the owner, or maybe you need to be a race buddy to be treated like a customer. Because when I brought Duc Pond Motorsports work that should have taken a couple of weeks, it took them a couple of months, with mistake after mistake, delay after delay, and excuse after excuse. Maybe I got the B team. When I wrote Donnie about it, he sent me a nasty email, which is a strange thing to do to someone who's paying you thousands and thousands of dollars. Then they delivered the bike with faults in the electrics that weren't there before and three blown fuses (guess they didn't bother to check if it actually ran before it left the shop). At that point, I didn't even bother to contact them again - I just took it someplace else. So yeah, hope you have better experience than I did. Sorry for thread jack. Hey, no problem. Everyone has different experiences. Sorry your experience wasn't as positive as mine have been. And no - I know many people who do not know the owner personally, and were not "race buddies" of the owner who have also had positive experiences like I did. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Rudemouthsky on March 03, 2015, 08:43:58 AM http://www.ebay.com/itm/171510743060?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171510743060?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) Love me the "gum" grips. (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjUxWDEyODA=/z/8ygAAOSw6EhURwrz/$_57.JPG) Title: . Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 04, 2015, 05:32:01 PM http://www.ebay.com/itm/171510743060?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171510743060?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) Love me the "gum" grips. (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjUxWDEyODA=/z/8ygAAOSw6EhURwrz/$_57.JPG) Love those; had a pair on my original 1973 Ducati 750GT back in the day! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on March 09, 2015, 01:06:34 PM Are you back from
Daytona yet? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 09, 2015, 03:54:10 PM Are you back from Daytona yet? I'm back, but haven't started work on the project again - busy with the garage build!!! Title: . Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 20, 2015, 02:26:19 AM When I got back from Daytona late Sunday; the modified triple clamp was waiting for me. It's been a hectic first week back, but I found a little time to install the triple and the forks:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7587/16236650704_546d2bb4be_z.jpg) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Wzed on March 20, 2015, 03:41:14 PM When I got back from Daytona late Sunday; the modified triple clamp that Donnie Unger of Ducpond Racing (Winchester Ducati in Virginia) had completed was waiting for me. It's been a hectic first week back, but I found a little time to install the triple and the forks: (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8677/16236664354_52e35ed144_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qJM9CS)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/qJM9CS) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Hey, who made that? Was it Donnie Unger of DucPond Motorsports in Winchester? What's the address and telephone number? Do they have a website? [laugh] With as much as you plug that guy, he should be a paid sponsor. Was that the deal? You start a thread to tell everyone about Donnie Unger of Ducpond Motorsports of Winchester Virginia, and he cuts you a deal on the work he did? Btw, I'm not the only person on this board who has had problems with Donnie Unger of DucPond Motorsports / Ducati of Winchester, Virginia. Anyone reading this thinly-veiled ad for that guy should beware of him and his shop. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: ducpainter on March 20, 2015, 04:16:50 PM I'm sad to see this thread take this tact.
You need to take it to pm or this will be gone. Wzed... stop stirring the pot. You've made your point. Tim...enough about Donnie. I hear he can be a dick. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Wzed on March 20, 2015, 09:02:03 PM I'm sad to see this thread take this tact. You need to take it to pm or this will be gone. Wzed... stop stirring the pot. You've made your point. Tim...enough about Donnie. I hear he can be a dick. Understood - sorry. It just seemed like he was using the forum to promote a place that I and other members have had real problems with. At the very least, he was antagonizing. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 21, 2015, 06:07:30 AM I'm sad to see this thread take this tact. You need to take it to pm or this will be gone. Wzed... stop stirring the pot. You've made your point. Tim...enough about Donnie. I hear he can be a dick. Gotcha. Thanks for the heads-up. Sorry I started the thread, and I apologize to the many members who were offended by my comments. Title: Re: . Post by: ducpainter on March 21, 2015, 06:31:10 AM Since you deleted all your content from the thread it seems pretty useless. [roll]
Title: Re: . Post by: Lars D on March 21, 2015, 03:26:53 PM I was really enjoying watching this bike come together.
Hope you can post the finished bike. Perhaps he was just giving credit where credit was due. Title: Re: . Post by: Howie on March 21, 2015, 07:51:32 PM I was really enjoying watching this bike come together. Hope you can post the finished bike. Perhaps he was just giving credit where credit was due. Me too. Title: Re: . Post by: kopfjäger on March 21, 2015, 08:02:29 PM .
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 23, 2015, 05:17:29 AM Me too. I'll continue to post my progress. I'll be more circumspect about my comments in the future. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone at all, and I certainly regret coming across as antagonistic to fellow forum members. I sent the following private message to Wzed regarding his issues with this thread: "Hey Dave, sorry I came across as so antagonistic and offensive. I really do like Donnie and he really has been a good resource for me over several decades. I'm really sorry that you and others have had such a bad time with him and that it left such hard feelings. I'll refrain from mentioning sources and resources [except in the most general sense, i.e "had someone else do it" or "contracted it out"] in the future, since everyone has different experiences and opinions about different resource providers. Regards, Tim" He did not respond. I do notice that he has no problems posting name brands and suppliers in his own posts. Title: Re: . Post by: oldndumb on March 23, 2015, 06:22:16 AM Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 23, 2015, 07:38:33 AM I think it's going to be a lot of work to get this bike down to my target wet weight. My track bike version weighs 337 pounds with two gallons of fuel on board (on a certified race scale) and that's without headlight, turn signals, mirrors, horn, rear fender, taillight, handlebar switchgear, etc, and with a full race exhaust system with titanium mufflers.
So I ordered a bunch of the same titanium and lightweight parts that I installed on my track bike; including titanium engine mount bolts and a lightweight front axle. I'm not sure where else I can save weight on this bike; but at this point I'm content to wait until I get it together and weigh it, to see how close I am to 360 pounds. Alternatively I could lose the 20~25 pounds that I need to lose, but how much fun would that be? UPDATE May 2016: The bike weighs under 345 pounds, ready to go except for gas. Much better than I had dared to hope! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: ducpainter on March 23, 2015, 09:50:33 AM You'll be faster if you lose the load you're carrying. :P
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM You'll be faster if you lose the load you're carrying. :P Yes, but that applies more to the track bike than to this street bike; I'm already sketchy when it comes to how fast I can go on the street!!!! (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7271/7490097964_e7c6a768a0_z.jpg) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 24, 2015, 05:46:29 AM 520 chain conversion kit arrived yesterday. Decided to go with a 15/43 combination, because I'll probably never have this bike over 100mph and I want it to have the front wheel in the air at every opportunity. ;D
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: fragile_this_side_up on March 24, 2015, 07:14:36 AM Nice. I hope to see this bike in person, because, well, i'm close enough. :D
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 26, 2015, 08:57:42 AM I hope to finally get a chance to do some more work on the bike this weekend. I have to work Saturday morning, but hope to install the front wheel & brakes, the front fender, the seat/tail unit and rear fender, the chain and sprockets, and .... hope to install these goodies that arrived yesterday:
(I apologize in advance for the prominence of the brand name on the packaging; I wasn't ready to take them out of the packages yet, and the name is displayed on both sides of each bag.) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16748405209_f6d911a7fa.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rvZXn4)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rvZXn4) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Titanium engine mount bolts with nuts and washers, lightweight aluminum front axle, Ti brake caliper mounting bolts, front axle pinch bolts, clutch cover bolts, rear brake linkage, gearshift pivot bolt, sidestand pivot bolt, rear brake pivot, front axle nut, and rear sprocket nuts. The brake rotor retaining bolts are on back order. Doesn't really save all that much weight, but they make the bike seem better/nicer/cooler to me, and that's really the point of building a special, anyway, isn't it? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: MotoPsycho on March 26, 2015, 11:40:47 AM A pound is a pound is a pound. It all matters. If it turns or reciprocates then it has value.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on April 03, 2015, 07:59:29 AM Progress is being made. Not much for photos, though. The old steel front axle was a very reluctant fit within the bearings of the oem front wheel; worse when inserted through the forks. No obvious signs of damage, but I suspect that this particular axle came from one of my AMA Moto-ST endurance racing bikes, and as such, was subjected to quick-change wheel/tire swaps, and might be subtly distorted as a result. Never mid, the light alloy TPO front axle arrived, and it slipped into the bearings and the front fork with no issues. So the front wheel is back on the bike, and the bike is off the front stand. I also loosely installed the handlebar controls and the new 749/999 radial master cylinders on the bars. Sitting (carefully) on the bike, I can already tell that I won't be using the Flanders Superbike bend handlebar; additional rise and pullback is required for the seating position I want. I picked up a used GT1000 handlebar last night from a local Ducati owner, but it is almost EXACTLY the same bend as the Flanders bar, and not nearly as pretty; so that is not the answer.
I took my S4Rs out for one last ride in the configuration that I modified to fit me...... Most of the work, however, has been in getting the S4Rs ready to sell, and by extension, retrieving a number of special parts from it that will be installed on the project. Specifically, a Shift-Tech carbon fiber Monster headlight bucket, a pair of carbon fiber headlight support ears (duplicates of the late model monster parts; don't recall the manufacturer), and the longer clutch and brake braided stainless steel lines that I had custom made for the Monster when I originally changed out the handlebars and risers ... a million years ago; it seems. With help from a friend, I re-installed the oem Monster right handlebar switchgear (I'll be re-using the European-spec switch assembly that permits selecting headlight "on/city/off" on the project bike), headlight, headlight support brackets, bar risers, handlebar, and clutch and brake lines. Sounds like a small, easy task, but fiddly and time-consuming, really. I took the day off work to get it done, and it took almost the entire day. Still need to re-fill and bleed the brakes and clutch. Next up will be reinstalling the oem rider footpeg/controls, rear fender, beer tray, side covers, chain guard and counter shaft sprocket cover, then taking the bike to a franchised Ducati dealer for a full service, before listing it for sale. I really want to find the right handlebars for the project bike; I'm looking at everything from Flanders flat track bars to vintage British (Triumph and Norton, early 1970's) bends, to 1979-1983 Honda and Kawasaki and Suzuki oem bends. I think I'm overdosing on center width, rise, pullback, and overall width measurements! Tim Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: stopintime on April 03, 2015, 08:29:15 AM Did you study the 3 or 4 Rizoma options?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on April 03, 2015, 09:26:32 AM Did you study the 3 or 4 Rizoma options? For 7/8" bars? I thought they were all the larger diameter bars? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: stopintime on April 03, 2015, 10:14:56 AM They have one 22mm model and it's 23 degrees sweep angle (compared to stock tapered bars, at 18)
(download their catalog to see the measurements) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on April 07, 2015, 04:44:00 AM So I finally got a little time to do some work on the bike. I apologize in advance for the poor quality photos. Taken with my cell phone camera, most of them in a rather dark garage, at night, with flash, they certainly aren't the best they could be.
First, I had to clear some space to work, as the garage has been filled all winter with crap. Here, my dog Penny looks out and wonders why I'm not playing with her: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7676/17061768635_03a046789f_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rZG2oK)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rZG2oK) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr After clearing space to work, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I first had to "de-content" some parts off of my S4Rs: (Here it is shown with the carbon fiber headlight bucket and carbon fiber headlight ears removed, but still sporting aftermarket bar risers and the MV Agusta Brutale handlebar, and the custom length brake and clutch hoses that were required to make the higher bars work. Looks distressingly like a chopper or a Ducati Indiana!) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7596/16875536789_3b5016b2d2_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rHex9R)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rHex9R) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr With the stock headlight bucket, headlight ears, handlebars, risers, and brake/clutch lines reinstalled: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7695/16441607383_c390346d3d_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r3Tx4n)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/r3Tx4n) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr The S4Rs still has a carbon fiber flyscreen, custom painted by DucPainter, and matching custom paint on the oem CF front fender. So, I put the S4Rs back in the garage and got to work on the project DS1000SS. This is the back end of the bike with the 916 monoposto carbon fiber undertray and rear fender, plus oem turn signals installed: (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8750/16875527529_be9502d012_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rHeupc)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rHeupc) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr The front end of the project now has the headlight and instruments installed: (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8713/16854354867_7e8c7b969f_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rFmYvi)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rFmYvi) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8719/16874233950_6d38a5e858_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rH7RS7)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rH7RS7) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8800/16875548439_79983f76f4_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rHeABH)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rHeABH) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr The "rider's eye view: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7666/16854355557_9399472abd_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rFmYHc)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/rFmYHc) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/people/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Lots of issues to still resolve, and plenty more work to do, but making progress and it's starting to look like a motorcycle again! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on April 08, 2015, 03:50:41 PM Good to see this back on track.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on May 17, 2015, 06:32:06 AM Any progress?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 21, 2015, 10:27:31 AM Any progress? Hey Lars; thanks for inquiring. Unfortunately, there is little progress to report. I have been consumed with lawn and yard renovations this spring, and with the project crammed into our tiny existing garage with no workbench, I am loath to work very long out there. (I find it VERY frustrating; no bench, no vise, no drill press, no grinder, no proper lights, etc.) So, I discovered that my custom top triple tree assembly is actually 13mm taller than the stock S2R/S4R/S4Rs triple, and thus the oem headlight mounting hardware needs to be "stretched" 13mm to make everything fit. I have done half of that work myself, by hand .. photos to follow. I have the second half of the work at a machine shop near my son's auto shop, hoping some cutting and welding will be complete in a week or so. I also found a set of Norton Commando replica handlebars that seem to have the rise, pullback, and bend that I am looking for. They are installed on the bike now. Sitting on the bike, I think I'll have to fabricate brackets to lower the footpegs a bits, since the Superbike tail is lower than the stock Supersport saddle. In the meantime, the new garage construction - much delayed - starts on Tuesday, and I'm VERY excited about that, because when it is complete late this summer or early this fall, I'll finally have a proper workshop again! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on May 21, 2015, 10:53:59 AM Nice job. Looks like its going to be such a fun bike to ride.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 28, 2015, 09:31:39 AM Thanks, with construction now underway for a second garage, I expect that the build will not really pick up steam until the fall when the workshop is up and operational.
However, today I am picking up the lengthened instrument/air sensor bracket from a local machine shop, and that should mean that I can complete the installation of the headlight, front turn signals, instruments, handlebar switchgear, and the bar-end mirrors. After that I can work my way back to fabricating a duplicate of the bracket I made for my other 1000SS to support both the fuel cell and the seat/tail unit. Micro progress beats zero progress, I guess! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 29, 2015, 05:11:32 AM The modified brackets and associated bits:
The white nylon "spacers" at the top of the U-shaped main bracket were fabricated to bridge the 14mm gap; replaced the "top hat" nylon oem spacers that were in there: (https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7748/18205951092_73d0728904_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tJNfYu)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/tJNfYu) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr The "short and long" of it. This bracket provides support for the instruments and holds the air flow sensor; it had to be lengthened 14mm: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7753/17589012603_a3a5a8a908.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sNhhDZ)Modified on the left, stock on the right. (https://flic.kr/p/sNhhDZ) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Reinstalled headlight and instrument cluster: (https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7794/18211964261_d5ab1b7db6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/tKk5tP)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/tKk5tP) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on May 31, 2015, 06:02:15 AM Looks good. Hard to finish a project like that with all that you have going on. Is it up and running yet or is there more to do.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 03, 2015, 10:04:20 AM Looks good. Hard to finish a project like that with all that you have going on. Is it up and running yet or is there more to do. Hi Lars, no it is not up and running yet. Not sure when that will happen, between work demands and building the new garage. I can try getting it running using the old 1000SS gauges (which match the ecu and the ignition key), but ultimately I am going to need to get the new (European GT1000) instrument cluster flashed/synced/programmed (what ever; don't know the correct terminology) to the existing ECU. I also have a not insignificant amount of small part and bracket fabrication to do before I can fire it up and ride it; and that's hard to do (though not impossible) while sitting cross-legged on the floor of my existing, overcrowded garage, with one dim overhead incandescent light-bulb, and no ventilation! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on August 11, 2015, 04:23:44 PM Surely there has been progress?!?!?!!!!!??!!!!!! ??? :o ???
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on August 26, 2015, 04:49:15 AM Surely there has been progress?!?!?!!!!!??!!!!!! ??? :o ??? There has been progress. On building the second garage. In fact, we're also having the house re-sheathed and re-sided, since it looked so shabby next to the new garage. Also had a dry creek put in and all our gutter downspouts buried (under the driveway, the driveway now looks terrible) and drainage redirected to the back of the propery. I expect to be moved into the new garage by early October, and perhaps in January or February find some time to actually work on my project. :( Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 08, 2015, 04:39:05 PM Finally moved into the new garage this week. Building a workbench Saturday. If all goes well I'll be out there working on the bike in a couple of weeks!
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 12, 2015, 04:55:29 AM (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5697/22097360942_5986d872e6_b.jpg)
Finally have a place to work on the project, after more than a year and a half of being a garage gypsy. Tuesday we'll be working on my brother-in-law's MZ 660 Skorpion Sport (on the left) with the stuck choke cable, and then after that, I'll FINALLY be able to get back to the roadster project! I built the workbench on Saturday, then bought the used cabinets off Craigslist on Saturday evening. On Sunday I hung the cabinets, organized the rest of the garage, and am pretty much ready to go! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: SpikeC on October 12, 2015, 09:09:06 AM What a great place to work! Where is the beer fridge??
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 16, 2015, 03:57:26 AM What a great place to work! Where is the beer fridge?? No beer fridge, but there is an original, unrestored Vendo Model 39 Coke machine (behind me in the photo I posted) that holds 8-ounce Coca-Colas and keeps them ice cold, for when I need a refreshment. I actually inherited the machine from a close friend and fellow lifelong rider who died in 2012. I finished the work on my brother-in-law's MZ 660 Skorpion on Tuesday, and he rode it off into the sunset. So now the 1000SS project is front and center again. FINALLY. Wednesday I brought home a used rolling tool cart that my son found for me, and yesterday I hauled the project parts cache down from the new garage's attic and sorted the parts and laid them out to start work on the bike. I cleaned the bike and got it on the rear stand. No work this weekend, as I have a funeral to attend in South Carolina. Cancer sucks. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on October 29, 2015, 01:14:22 PM Damn!!!! Garage is looking good! I am still in a shed with my bikes. Hoping to change that this spring .
I wouldn't know what to do with that kind of space. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on December 26, 2015, 10:53:58 AM You have that palace to work on bikes and nothing. :D [bang] ;D
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 03, 2016, 03:16:27 AM You have that palace to work on bikes and nothing. :D [bang] ;D So.... I went for a ride on New Year's Day. I dug out from the Blizzard of 2016. And I had my 13-year-old nephew Sean over for a garage session while the schools and the government were closed last week. We worked on the project bike! Installed a new 520 chain conversion, complete with new sprockets, and showed Sean how to rivet a master link. Then we fabricated two new aluminum exhaust hangers for the BUB upswept high mount reverse cone megaphones, and installed those. (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1587/24162518874_4e4fc7990e_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1505/24162514714_03c1248468_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1502/24163824863_4f31879c91_z.jpg) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on February 06, 2016, 04:08:40 PM That exhaust looks perfect [clap].
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on February 06, 2016, 05:41:20 PM Something looks wacky on that front sprocket, too much shaft out past the nut.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 07, 2016, 05:17:12 AM Something looks wacky on that front sprocket, too much shaft out past the nut. I'm bringing my track bike back home soon, so I'll have a look at it for comparison. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 07, 2016, 05:53:34 AM A little more progress yesterday. Removed the airbox and surgically separated it from the battery box, then reinstalled the battery box and electrics. I also installed the custom clutch line, filled and bled the clutch. The coils will be relocated on a bracket that will be installed where the airbox used to be. I have a set of velocity stacks to install after I get that set up.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1651/24779409471_41460d1954_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1620/24754918782_7db482166d_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1571/24505217509_93669fd607_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1566/24754915452_af6949a93f_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1589/24577347230_c32f543e6a_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1540/24245957423_fedc95e81f_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1520/24779413361_820044e88a_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1526/24846548506_a8be3f2701_z.jpg) (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1496/24245960863_68dd49f532_z.jpg) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Duck-Stew on February 07, 2016, 09:31:03 AM Having made that same airbox into battery-holder-only mod, you will need to build a brace between it and somewhere on the frame up front. The 2 bolts which hold it to the frame allow it to flop back and forth a good bit. I made mine from aluminum strap and painted it black with the box mount made up high for better support.
All else looks great! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 08, 2016, 07:33:50 AM Having made that same airbox into battery-holder-only mod, you will need to build a brace between it and somewhere on the frame up front. The 2 bolts which hold it to the frame allow it to flop back and forth a good bit. I made mine from aluminum strap and painted it black with the box mount made up high for better support. All else looks great! Might be able to tie it in to the bracket I'll be fabricating for the coils. Dropped by the storage unit yesterday and looked at the track bike (I built in 2012/2013) which I'm using as a model, and I don't have a reinforcing bracket on it. Will check for signs of movement there when I get it back home, as well. Oh, and there is definitely a lot less countershaft peeking out past the sprocket and nut on the track bike; so I will have to investigate that as well. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: monsta on February 08, 2016, 03:12:00 PM Stu is right...
I made a battery box out of ali and because its more rigid than what yours would be, it fatigued the tabs on the frame that I had it bolted to. I had to re-weld the tabs and make a brace to the front... solid as a rock now... Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on February 08, 2016, 03:44:43 PM Never had an issue with a Shorai battery (minus 4-5kg).
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 09, 2016, 05:37:17 AM Yes, I've used the Li-Ion batteries with great success. I've run about 10-12 track days on my other DS1000SS (the track bike) with this airbox mod, with a regular size battery installed, but never thought to brace the battery box. I am interested to check out the track bike - when I get it back home from storage - and inspect it closely for any signs of fatigue or movement. I'll post what I find when that happens - probably afte I get back from Florida in early March.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 12, 2016, 10:15:09 AM Something looks wacky on that front sprocket, too much shaft out past the nut. Perusing the factory parts fiches; it appears that I am missing a spacer that goes behind the sprocket on the countershaft (P/N 713.1.201.1A). It's on its way along with a couple of other minor parts I need. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: muskrat on February 13, 2016, 06:33:58 PM that exhaust looks killer
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on February 13, 2016, 07:52:28 PM After looking at the airbox, I got thinkin'. 8)
Have that cut rear battery ignition section and get another airbox sans battery section and bolt or Dzu fasten them together. Then you remove the airbox baffle panels, put a K&N filter on top of the lid, gut the stock filter and use the filter seal between the lid and airbox. I cut out the filter supports and expoxied them up under the new filter location. Some filters are rigid enough depending on which one you choose. The lid becomes the filter for cleaning. This will maximise the airbox cavity volume by putting the filter as far away from the stacks as possible and make all the airbox volume available to each cylinder on each intake stroke. I got 5 more hp doing this on the too small/shallow carbed airbox. I think the ie airbox is a better starting point. I had a thread on this somewhere.. I have been looking at K&N filters just a little smaller than stock to go on top of the lid, so you have an open airbox lid at the very top. Still plenty big enough. I have used the stock size K&N filter but it's a squeeze. Silicone sealant and the Dremel are your friend. By having it two piece, you can reroute the harness to a more sane location and have easy servicing access while still having a good airbox. Next would be incorporating the billet stacks into your open, extended airbox. The best of both worlds. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on February 15, 2016, 08:01:02 AM After looking at the airbox, I got thinkin'. 8) Have that cut rear battery ignition section and get another airbox sans battery section and bolt or Dzu fasten them together. Then you remove the airbox baffle panels, put a K&N filter on top of the lid, gut the stock filter and use the filter seal between the lid and airbox. I cut out the filter supports and expoxied them up under the new filter location. Some filters are rigid enough depending on which one you choose. The lid becomes the filter for cleaning. This will maximise the airbox cavity volume by putting the filter as far away from the stacks as possible and make all the airbox volume available to each cylinder on each intake stroke. I got 5 more hp doing this on the too small/shallow carbed airbox. I think the ie airbox is a better starting point. I had a thread on this somewhere.. I have been looking at K&N filters just a little smaller than stock to go on top of the lid, so you have an open airbox lid at the very top. Still plenty big enough. I have used the stock size K&N filter but it's a squeeze. Silicone sealant and the Dremel are your friend. By having it two piece, you can reroute the harness to a more sane location and have easy servicing access while still having a good airbox. Next would be incorporating the billet stacks into your open, extended airbox. The best of both worlds. Hi; looked at your thread; great work there! Really detailed dyno tuning to quantify the results - I like that! In my case, I won't have room for any airbox at all as I am going to relocate the oem coils that were originally mounted on the outer left side of the frame (previously hidden by the oem fairing) under the fuel tank, as I did on my track bike: (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1539/24514687289_c1245045b7_c.jpg) I'm hosting the 13-year-old son of a late motorcycling buddy of mine this coming Saturday (and possibly my nephew, again) and we'll fabricate a duplicate of that aluminum bracket, and relocate the coils. If we have time, we'll also install the spare TPO "Beast" velocity stacks that I have left over from the track bike project. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 06, 2016, 07:01:28 AM A little more progress to report;
Completed the prep of the S4Rs for sale and listed it here and on eBay. ............. Fabricated and installed the bracket that holds the back of the fuel tank and the front of the tail unit. Bought and installed a set of BST carbon fiber wheels Installed a titanium rear axle that came with my black anodized swingarm (not installed yet; will be used in the final build) Bought and installed a bunch of titanium fasteners from TPO. (Just to keep the juices flowing) Mounted the Napolean Baren bar end mirrors Drilled and clamped the throttle assembly Replaced the oem handlebar grips with latemodel stock 848 Superbike grips (with "Ducati" logos) Finished the wiring extension for the Euro headlight/starter/kill switch assembly, drilled the bars and mounted the switch Drilled the bars and mounted the turn signal switch Bought a used Sargent monoposto saddle, installed it in the carbon fiber tail unit, wired, and mounted the tail (the carbon tail is HUGELY lighter than the oem ABS plastic Ducati 916 monoposto tail.) Found a source for a carbon fiber rear hugger, bought it, and mounted it. Ordered a Shorai Li Ion battery; it's on its way. Oh, and I removed the heavy steel license plate bracket off the carbon fiber rear fender; I'm going to find a clean, oem-looking way to attach the Virginia license plate directly to the rear fender without an intervening steel plate! (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1481/26757221376_34369a8461.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GLrKH3)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/GLrKH3) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1497/26757865786_8d82849536.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GLv4gy)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/GLv4gy) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8811/26757317286_db0a32279e.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GLsfdE)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/GLsfdE) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1501/26782035945_ac5428e658.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GNCWdr)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/GNCWdr) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1501/26178194913_aa50b8704f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FTh6ja)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/FTh6ja) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1460/26757213046_75fc119f88.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GLrHeq)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/GLrHeq) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1498/26176623414_31244a6ca1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FT93am)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/FT93am) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1471/26178100483_24c5a33c0c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FTgBf4)DS1000SS Roadster Project continued (https://flic.kr/p/FTgBf4) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Left to do for the "dry build" : Install the velocity stacks Connect the front wiring sub-harness and all connectors and secure them Install the battery Install a fuel pump in the fuel tank Fill and bleed the front brakes Temporarily re-install the stock 1000SS instrument gauges (until I can get the Euro GT1000 gauges mapped to the oem SS1000 ECU) Install the Power Commander III Oil & filter change Gas Test start Take it to my local race shop for dyno tuning and Power Commander set up. Take it to my local Ducati dealer for mapping the Euro GT1000 gauges to the oem SS1000 ECU. Anyone know what this entails? Ride it. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 06, 2016, 07:17:59 AM I love Ti; but the Shorai battery at 1.88 pounds will save more weight over the stock battery (at 7.6 pounds) than all the Ti weight savings.
Still; the Ti fasteners (already in hand; most but not all installed - some are awaiting the final, cosmetic reassembly) look nice and do save some weight; the bag of steel parts that have been replaced is pretty darn heavy to heft: all disk rotor bolts front fork and triple tree pinch bolts front axle nut all brake caliper mounting bolts and caliper half clamp bolts rear shock upper and lower bolts handlebar clamp bolts brake and clutch master cylinder perch clamp bolts rear brake linkage (plunger rod) rear brake pivot bolt gearshift pivot bolt rear sprocket nuts exhaust hangar bracket bolts and nuts headlamp bucket mounting bolts headlight support bracket mounting bolts countershaft sprocket nut rear axle and nut engine mount through bolts and nuts footpeg hangar bolts rear subframe mounting bolts I have removed and measured (and temporarily replaced) the following fasteners that will soon be ordered in Ti: All engine side cover bolts cam cover bolts coil mounting nuts and bolts coil mounting bracket nuts and bolts horn mounting bolt footpeg heel plate mounting bolts rear brake master cylinder mounting bolts rear brake master cylinder remote reservoir mounting bolt rear brake hose routing bracket mounting bolt underseat taillight and rear seat latch mounting bolts seat/fuel tank mounting bracket bolts shift linkage nuts and bolts sidestand mounting bracket bolts front fender mount bolts frame rail fuel tank mounting rubber mounting bolts (I had a couple of Ti bolts that fit the threads, but are WAYYYY too long) oil cooler mount bolts rocker cover bolts ...a few more. Should save a few more ounces! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 06, 2016, 07:41:08 AM Perusing the factory parts fiches; it appears that I am missing a spacer that goes behind the sprocket on the countershaft (P/N 713.1.201.1A). It's on its way along with a couple of other minor parts I need. Got the spacer, removed the chain, removed the front sprocket.... the spacer is already there. So, I think maybe the countershaft is just LONGER on this bike. Sighted, lined up, rotated the chain/sprockets with both the oem rear wheel and now with the new BST rear wheel, and there's no mis-alignment and no visible wear or interference, no strange sounds, no excessive drag. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on May 06, 2016, 11:15:16 AM Hmmm, perhaps there's different shafts. Odd. Brad Black mentioned something related a while ago, can't remember now.
That OEM speedo trigger on the rear caliper bracket cannot see those Ti rotor bolts. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on May 06, 2016, 01:51:05 PM More fine work and attention to detail. The vicarious pleasure was worth waiting for. [laugh]
Gotta love a maniacal committment to light weight. ;D Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 12, 2016, 04:44:08 AM More fine work and attention to detail. The vicarious pleasure was worth waiting for. [laugh] Gotta love a maniacal committment to light weight. ;D Thanks! So, another part of this process seems to have come to closure; sold my Monster S4Rs last night, new owner to pick it up on Saturday. Got the front brakes filled and bled. The Monster intake boots I ordered off of eBay did NOT arrive, seller refunded and said that the auction was posted in error. Bought another pair that are now marked as "in transit" to arrive next week sometime. Received the Shorai Lithium Ion battery (actually got two; one for the track bike). it's amazing how light 1.88 pounds is compared to 7.6 pounds! Placed the following (final?) order with my Ti dealer: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Description Quantity My Usage (OEM = OEM Ducati DS1000SS unless otherwise noted) M8 x 25mm (any thread pitch) bolt 2 Custom muffler bracket to rear subframe M8 nut (Matching above thread pitch) 2 Custom muffler bracket to rear subframe M6 x 10mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 4 Secure heel guards to footpeg hangars (OEM) M6 x 15mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 Rear brake master cylinder mounting to alloy carrier (OEM) M6 x 17.5mm (3mm shoulder) 1.0 thread pitch 16 Rocker cover to cylinder head mounting (OEM) M8 x 60mm (30mm shoulder) (any thread pitch) bolt 2 Bar end mirror retention (aftermarket) M8 nut (Matching above thread pitch) 2 Bar end mirror retention (aftermarket) M6 x 10mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 Oil cooler mount (OEM) M6 x 20mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 3 heim joint shift linkage (2), shift linkage to shift shaft(1) (OEM) M6 1.0 thread pitch nut 2 heim joint shift linkage (OEM) M6 x 20mm (5mm shoulder) 1.0 thread pitch bolt 4 front fender mounts (OEM) M6 x 10mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 license plate mounting (custom) M5 x 15 0.8 thread pitch bolt 1 rear brake line securing bracket (to swaged-in swingarm brass insert) (OEM) M5 x 15 0.8 thread pitch bolt 1 secure air temp sensor to bracket behind headlamp (custom) M5 0.8 thread pitch nut 1 secure air temp sensor to bracket behind headlamp (custom) M6 x 10mm 1,.0 thread pitch bolt 1 rear brake m/c fluid reservoir mount to frame (utilizes weld nut) (OEM) M6 x 15mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 1 Speedometer sensor mount to rear brake carrier (OEM) M8 x 15mm 1.25 thread pitch bolt 1 Mounting horn to frame (OEM) M8 x 30mm (any thread pitch) bolt 2 Mounting custom coil bracket to frame M8 nut (matching above thread pitch) 2 Mounting custom coil bracket to frame M6 x 25mm (7mm shoulder) (any thread pitch) bolt 4 Mounting coils to custom coil bracket M6 (Matching above thread pitch) 4 Mounting coils to custom coil bracket M6 x 10mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 Mounting rubber fuel tank pads to frame (OEM) M6 x 20mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 throttle assembly housing pinch bolts (OEM) M6 x 20mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 custom seat/tank mounting bracket to frame M6 x 10mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 tail light to monoposto seat unit (OEM Ducati 748/916/996/998 monoposto) M6 x 25mm 1.0 thread pitch bolt 2 monoposto seat unit latch bracket(OEM Ducati 748/916/996/998 monoposto) M5 x 6mm 0.8 thread pitch bolt 2 intake manifold vacuum bung fillers (OEM) FOLLOWING ARE ALL M6 ENGINE COVER BOLTS: (ALL OEM) M6 x 65mm (40mm shoulder) 1 Clutch cover M6 x 70mm (45mm shoulder) 1 Clutch cover M6 x 30mm 2 cam belt covers M6 x 15mm 5 cam belt covers M6 x 25mm 5 clutch side engine cover M6 x 35mm (10mm shoulder) 1 clutch side engine cover M6 x 30mm 1 starter motor on clutch side of engine M6 x 15mm 2 countershaft sprocket cover M6 x 15mm 3 clutch slave cylinder M6 x 25mm 8 engine cover proper (drive side) M6 x 30mm 3 engine cover proper (drive side) --------------------------------------------------------------------- No more excuses, now. The S4Rs is out of the way, the garage is complete and the workshop set-up, and (assuming the sale goes smoothly on Saturday) I will have the cash from the sale of the S4Rs on hand to pay for the initial work to get the project running! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 12, 2016, 05:15:08 AM Hmmm, perhaps there's different shafts. Odd. Brad Black mentioned something related a while ago, can't remember now. That OEM speedo trigger on the rear caliper bracket cannot see those Ti rotor bolts. Grrrr. Street bike. Need the speedo. But also need the Ti rotor bolts. Thinking about solutions now. Any ideas???? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on May 12, 2016, 05:24:13 AM GPS driven speedo?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Duck-Stew on May 12, 2016, 05:31:36 AM Grrrr. Street bike. Need the speedo. But also need the Ti rotor bolts. Thinking about solutions now. Any ideas???? Nothing comes to mind that would weigh less than using 6x steel bolts. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: kopfjäger on May 12, 2016, 06:56:21 AM Grrrr. Street bike. Need the speedo. But also need the Ti rotor bolts. Thinking about solutions now. Any ideas???? Magnet fitted into top of Ti bolt. (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/61C91CCB-CFD7-4A30-9D6C-36832A216662.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/61C91CCB-CFD7-4A30-9D6C-36832A216662.jpg.html) (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/DEC467B7-9AF1-4745-AAD9-0EC3EF891F7F_1.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/DEC467B7-9AF1-4745-AAD9-0EC3EF891F7F_1.jpg.html) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 12, 2016, 07:19:48 AM Magnet fitted into top of Ti bolt. (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/61C91CCB-CFD7-4A30-9D6C-36832A216662.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/61C91CCB-CFD7-4A30-9D6C-36832A216662.jpg.html) (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/DEC467B7-9AF1-4745-AAD9-0EC3EF891F7F_1.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/DEC467B7-9AF1-4745-AAD9-0EC3EF891F7F_1.jpg.html) [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] Now *THIS* I like!!!! Thank you!!!!!! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on May 12, 2016, 08:02:54 AM That's cool, but the sensor is looking for ferrous material.
You could do the same with steel though. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 12, 2016, 09:46:41 AM That's cool, but the sensor is looking for ferrous material. You could do the same with steel though. Tiny little Torx-shaped steel inserts for the Ti bolts......... I'll machine some of those up tonight! [shot] Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: kopfjäger on May 12, 2016, 12:14:20 PM That's cool, but the sensor is looking for ferrous material. You could do the same with steel though. I'm running an M-unit sensor. ;) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 13, 2016, 05:07:12 AM I'm running an M-unit sensor. ;) I found them and read up on them a bit and watched a video, but it is not clear to me that I could do anything with *just* the speedo sensor on this bike? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: kopfjäger on May 13, 2016, 09:33:59 AM I found them and read up on them a bit and watched a video, but it is not clear to me that I could do anything with *just* the speedo sensor on this bike? The pick up should work just fine. Shoot motogadget an email to confirm. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 15, 2016, 04:59:30 PM The pick up should work just fine. Shoot motogadget an email to confirm. Thanks! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 15, 2016, 05:04:05 PM Some progress to report this weekend, although no new pictures. I was able to acquire a Ducati 620 Monster rubber inlet manifold, and using that (and another one that I already had on hand), I was able to mount the velocity stacks. I also made screens for the velocity stacks, not enough to keep out sand and dust – but enough to prevent small children and animals from being sucked into the engine!
I also drilled new holes in the license plate for the bike and mounted it directly to the carbon fiber rear fender, using the stock rubber bumpers to prevent it from rubbing up against the fender – and of course bolted on using two titanium bolts! Mostly this weekend, though, was fun hosting two grandkids and squeezing yard work in between the massive rainy spells we have been having. Oh – and the new owner of my S4rs came and trailered it away - one day short of the 10 year anniversary on which I bought the motorcycle. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 17, 2016, 04:45:39 PM A little more progress; hooked up the electrics, installed the battery, and tried turning things on:
The gravel and small child screens on the velocity stacks: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/26478614073_f62b31a8b6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GkPPsR) Overview: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7275/26476877954_28109b051b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GkEVnL) "Boot-up": (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7757/26987882052_00d1fd306d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H7PX6f) At rest: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7759/26476876104_5a72b0526b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GkEUPS) Of course, I still have to figure out where the ignition switch will be mounted, and why the starter button doesn't turn the engine over (maybe because the fuel tank and fuel pump aren't hooked up) and a few other minor items, but progress is being made. I'll try some more stuff tomorrow evening - maybe install a fuel pump in the gas tank, hook up the tail light, brake light, and headlight.... 12,967 miles on the bike; about 300 of them track miles when I used this bike (in a completely different guise) as a track day bike while my other engine was being built (by a builder who shall remain completely anonymous, of course!) It ran well before I parked it..... I even bought a Ducati performance enclosed carbon fiber clutch cover because, well..... just because. (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7611/27049496666_a2c83fd7d1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HdgJYb) Tim Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 19, 2016, 02:43:56 AM Yesterday evening I pulled the fuel pump and filter out of the stock fuel tank, reinstalled it in the ETI FuelCel Sprint tank, and hooked it it up. It cycled properly when the key was turned on, so that looks good.
Still no action from the starter button, so I swapped the right hand handlebar switch assembly for the stock one from my track bike, just to make sure I hadn't messed anything up when I lengthened the wires on the Euro switch, and got the same results. So I swapped the switches back. Not sure what the next debug step is right now, but still trying to slog forward and get this "dry build" completed so I can start riding the bike in "shakedown" mode. Now that I think about it; I might swap the sidestand switch eliminator from the track bike. The street bike has the connection "jumpered" [with a "U" of safety wire and a nylon tie holding it in place] and that worked the last time I actually was using this bike, but probably not a bad idea to try tjhe known good solution. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Howie on May 19, 2016, 03:32:02 AM Are you getting voltage to one of the small terminals at the solenoid? The computer is from a Monster? What year? The harness is from what bike? Immobilizer light flash a code?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 19, 2016, 04:47:24 AM Are you getting voltage to one of the small terminals at the solenoid? The computer is from a Monster? What year? The harness is from what bike? Immobilizer light flash a code? Thanks for the reply! It's a 2003 Ducati DS1000SS with stock harness and stock ECU. No codes being flashed; everything so far appears nominal except the starter button not triggering the starter motor. I haven't actually done any analysis, since I just finished hooking things back up the other night. All I've done is walk back and forth between this project and my DS1000SS track bike (also stock harness, but of course much street equipment missing) and compared connections. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Duck-Stew on May 19, 2016, 05:50:38 AM Side stand switch?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 19, 2016, 06:13:17 AM Side stand switch? Now that I think about it; I might swap the sidestand switch eliminator from the track bike. The street bike has the connection "jumpered" [with a "U" of safety wire and a nylon tie holding it in place] and that worked the last time I actually was using this bike, but probably not a bad idea to try the known good solution. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 19, 2016, 06:18:07 AM From my May 6 post detailing what is left to do:
Install a fuel pump in the fuel tank Fill and bleed the front brakes Temporarily re-install the stock 1000SS instrument gauges Install the Power Commander III I'm going to leave this to my race shop - he's done a million of them, including on my track bike. Oil & filter change Ordered oil and filters for both it and the track bike today; they'll be here on Saturday. Gas Test start Take it to my local race shop for dyno tuning and Power Commander set up. Take it to my local Ducati dealer for mapping the Euro GT1000 gauges to the oem SS1000 ECU. Anyone know what this entails? Ride it. Starting to finally get excited about this. I think I'll WEIGH the bike this weekend! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on May 19, 2016, 06:20:20 AM [thumbsup] [popcorn]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: SpikeC on May 19, 2016, 09:17:25 AM Ok, this may not be applicable to your bike, mine is a Bimota with a Pegaso ecu, I have no side stand switch, but if I press the starter button with the bike in gear it does nothing but shut off the headlight. The neutral light must be on for it to start.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 19, 2016, 09:54:26 AM Ok, this may not be applicable to your bike, mine is a Bimota with a Pegaso ecu, I have no side stand switch, but if I press the starter button with the bike in gear it does nothing but shut off the headlight. The neutral light must be on for it to start. Thanks, the bike is in neutral, and the neutral indicator is lit up on the dash. (see photos above) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 22, 2016, 02:19:32 PM Some quality time in the garage today, after church. My wife is working all day (she's a nurse) and it's raining all weekend; so I can't do the work I need to do in the yard.
Started out checking backwards from the starter motor to the solenoid, main grounds, main power, relay switch power and ground, etc., using my older Radio Shack volt/ohmmeter and the factory shop manual. Switched the sidestand switch eliminator: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7281/26574642293_0caf8a1046_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GuiZiP)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/GuiZiP) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr from the track bike over to the project bike; no change. Swapped the old sidestand safety wire jumper: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7773/26574642073_fc4d2c8b77_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GuiZf2)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/GuiZf2) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr from the project over to the track bike; track bike still started fine. Kept reading the shop manual, discovered a pin-out for the handlebar switch assembly, complete with continuity readings. Checked them all; and the starter button connection stayed open, even when the button was pressed. Which was weird, because I tried the known good working switch from the track bike a week or two ago, and it didn't start with that switch, either. So, I checked the pin-out on the track bike, and sure enough, I got continuity when pressing the starter button. While extracting the switch plug on the track bike, I noticed ANOTHER jumper neatly ny-tied to the front fairing stay underneath the connector: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7542/27146016336_0254217013_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HmNqUq)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/HmNqUq) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Checked it; sure enough, it was NOT jumpered on the project bike. (Of course, the project bike started out with stock brake and clutch master cylinders and now has oem 999 Superbike radial master cylinders) ... It's the clutch sensor switch connection. I jumpered that on the project bike as well: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7550/26904649170_4620bc26d6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZtmRy)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/GZtmRy) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Then connected the switch from the track bike to the project bike: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7721/26573235744_dc2d928acd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GubMbY)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/GubMbY) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Siamese Ducatis!!!!! (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7345/26574653773_2f2a1fcdf1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Guj3HK)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/Guj3HK) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr .... and VOILA!!! Starter motor works! So it was back to the bench, to disassemble the malfunctioning switch to see what I did wrong when I lengthened the wires... Here's the switch when opened and the wire stress relief clamp taken off: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7633/26573239074_b1f40530c8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GubNbo)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/GubNbo) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr After removing the headlight off/city/on switch's actuating thumb shaft (this is the Euro switch): (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/27110558771_8597a768fe_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HiEGB6)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/HiEGB6) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr After removing the bracket that holds the starter button and other components in place below the headlight switch actuating shaft: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/26574654693_d2e8db8299_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Guj3ZB)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/Guj3ZB) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr And this is where I immediately saw my error. The copper contact plate with the two contact buttons should be installed with the contacts on the LEFT; sliding against the contacts that the wires are soldered to, not on TOP, connecting to .... nothing. Turned the starter button over 90 degrees: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7316/26904642310_6e31befb24_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GZtjPh)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/GZtjPh) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Continuity when pressed: (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7607/27179140585_eae55b1910_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HpJcAa)Wired (https://flic.kr/p/HpJcAa) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Reassembled everything and buttoned it back up. Spliced the Monster headlight wiring pigtail into the SS wiring harness and tested the lights.... I have off/low beam/high beam, but the "city" light is not working. Didn't test it; that's a task for another day. Thinking that I'm getting very close now.... Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 24, 2016, 03:50:01 AM Steel clutch cover:
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7793/26930287340_8965d82a21_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H2JLbY) Replaced by carbon clutch cover: (https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7672/26600191683_711eb121d4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GwyWfx) I do like a quiet clutch, so it was nice to find a solid clutch cover that it beautiful, well-made, and perfectly fitting using the stock rubber gasket. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on May 24, 2016, 08:46:53 PM Carbon and Ti [drool]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 25, 2016, 06:12:36 AM Hit the $55 "Buy it Now" trigger on a used Pit Bull DSS rear stand from a local seller on eBay yesterday, picking it up today.
Now I'll be able to have both the tracker and the project up on stands at the same time. Saves room in the tight workshop area of the garage! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 27, 2016, 04:36:59 AM Yesterday evening I got the headlight harness modifications done, and the headlight re-installed, and got the European "city light" working. Got the turn signals hooked up and working (for now, oem Monster signals in front and oem 916 signals in back!), got the horn working, got the handlebar switches remounted and the wires properly routed.
Made a custom "null modem" style male-to-male connector to connect the 1000SS tail/brake light female harness connector to the oem 916 tail/brake light female pigtail; tested that, then soldered and heat-shrink wrapped it. (Used two oem 1000SS tail/brake light male pigtails to build it). Verified that the license plate light is working, and that both the foot brake and the hand brake light switches are actuating the rear brake light. Won't be working on the bike Saturday or Sunday (family activities) but my wife is working on Monday, Memorial day, so I'll be out there in the garage trying to properly and safely route and tie up the wiring harness, creating temporary mounting brackets for both the oem 1000SS instruments and the the oem ignition switch, hooking up the fuel lines, installing the tail section and the tank, doing the oil and filter change, and - hopefully - first firing of the bike. I don't expect it to run properly with the open velocity stacks and the BUB exhaust, but if it starts and runs at all, it will then be off to the race shop which will not be named and/or my Ducati dealer which will not be named for new cam belts, the Power Commander III install, and dynotuning. Then ... test riding! Note: with all the turmoil surrounding my normal go-to oil filters (K&N) I bought two oem filters off of Amazon "cosmetically challenged merchandise" ( the boxes were scuffed!) for about 50% of retail. Note2: Awaiting delivery of the final order of Ti fasteners from my Ti dealer who will not be named. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 30, 2016, 05:12:27 PM The bike is up and running at 343.8 pounds before adding gas.
Special thanks to my old friend Tom, and to DMF's own Lars D. for coming over and helping with final fabrication, fueling, and post shake-down oil change! The temporary mounting for the ignition key and the old Super Sport instrument panel: (https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7401/27361568585_d8bd65847d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HFRc5v)Ducati DS1000SS roadster conversion first ride (https://flic.kr/p/HFRc5v) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7416/26755020263_7a57f6fe50_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GLftoP)Ducati DS1000SS roadster conversion first ride (https://flic.kr/p/GLftoP) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr The rear view of the bike, after the first start-up, just before the first ride: (https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7677/27361575285_a66d625382.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HFRe52)Ducati DS1000SS roadster conversion first ride (https://flic.kr/p/HFRe52) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr YouTube video of the first ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NrwTFRPWs&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NrwTFRPWs&feature=share) YouTube video of a ride by in front of my house: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=DQi2-53cr24 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=DQi2-53cr24) After a six mile shakedown ride that included a couple of highway speed sections, came back and changed the oil and filter. I'm surprised the bike runs as well as it does with open velocity stacks and open pipes; but it is having issues dealing with light load and small throttle openingss. So next up will be scheduling the install of the Power Commander III, and dynotuning the bike. Then after that, it will be on to my local (well, no so local, it's 50 miles away) Ducati dealer to have the European GT1000 instrument panel mated to the ECU, so I can remove the original SS instruments, and fabricate a permanent mount for the ignition switch. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 31, 2016, 02:21:42 AM I actually rode the bike to work this morning. 355 pounds (with gas) and 85 rwhp (approximately, that's what it dyno'ed at the last time I had it run) is a lot of fun!
In the cool morning air, it ran a bit better than it did in yesterday's afternoon heat and humidity; though it definitely still needs the PC-III and the dyno-tuning. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on May 31, 2016, 02:28:28 AM [thumbsup] [popcorn]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Howie on May 31, 2016, 03:53:21 AM Great job [drool] Are you staying with open velocity stacks?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 31, 2016, 04:56:40 AM Great job [drool] Are you staying with open velocity stacks? I put small child and animal strainers on them. If I can find some super low profile filters that will fit in the space, I might put them on sometime, and I also might install some lightweight sheet "privacy screen" behind the frame rails and under the coils (over the horizontal cylinder) to "tidy up" the look and to further discourage road debris from entering the air/fuel system. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on May 31, 2016, 07:08:46 AM There are small individual filters made to go over the velocity stacks on 748/916 SBK's, those may fit what you've got there.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: NAKID on May 31, 2016, 10:12:22 AM Looks great, if a bit odd with the cluster/ignition temporary mounting.
Are you going to leave the tail section as is or do something else with the plate mount to streamline things? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 31, 2016, 10:55:25 AM Looks great, if a bit odd with the cluster/ignition temporary mounting. Thanks; yeah - the carbuncle on the side of the bike is pretty hideous. However, it should be gone in a week or two, and I think for a dry build, I can live with the rest of the icky cosmetics. Are you going to leave the tail section as is or do something else with the plate mount to streamline things? Funny you should ask, because I was just looking at it and wondering the same thing myself. I'm not a fan of tail chops in any way, shape, or form, and this bike is ultimately supposed to be an homage bike, not a radical custom, so for me, it needs to be a bike that Ducati *might* have built. That said, the rear fender with the cut-outs for the 916/748/996/998 high mounted undertail cans looks a bit spidery and dangly to me. I'm not going to run the bike without a rear fender or plate, but I probably will be looking at other ways to achieve what I'm looking for. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: NAKID on May 31, 2016, 12:38:53 PM Thanks; yeah - the carbuncle on the side of the bike is pretty hideous. However, it should be gone in a week or two, and I think for a dry build, I can live with the rest of the icky cosmetics. Funny you should ask, because I was just looking at it and wondering the same thing myself. I'm not a fan of tail chops in any way, shape, or form, and this bike is ultimately supposed to be an homage bike, not a radical custom, so for me, it needs to be a bike that Ducati *might* have built. That said, the rear fender with the cut-outs for the 916/748/996/998 high mounted undertail cans looks a bit spidery and dangly to me. I'm not going to run the bike without a rear fender or plate, but I probably will be looking at other ways to achieve what I'm looking for. I see where you're going with that. You may be able to modify that rear fender to eliminate the art with the reflector. I think that would clean it up, keep the fender/plate mount, and achieve the "might have been" look... Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on May 31, 2016, 05:58:50 PM Thanks; I'm adding that to the cosmetics list.
I got an appointment for the PC-III install and dynotuning next Tuesday. After that, the mystical Union of the Euro instrument panel to the ECU. Oh, and yeah - as predicted, the speedo is not working with the Ti bolts holding the resrvrotor on! Tim P.S. Ran out of gas as I arrived at work today (yeah, I rode it to work!) and had to bum a ride to get a gallon of premium to get me back home! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 01, 2016, 07:59:43 AM So, my first Ducati was a 1973 750GT that I bought (for $1,500) in 1986. I sold it in 1999 (back to the guy I bought it from!) to fund my racing team.
This build was originally to be an homage to the same era 750 Sport, but upon long reflection, I've decided I really want it to be my own interpretation of what the GT would be like today if the "old" Ducati were still in business. (I never liked the cosmetics of the GT1000, nor the weight, even though I appreciated the attempt.) So, with that in mind, and with the bike up and running now, I'm starting to think about the cosmetic final build next winter. So, I'm thinking powder-coated black frame. Use the anodized black alloy swing-arm I acquired last year. Black foot control hangars. Polished, clear-coated, engine cases, sliver barrels, polished and clear coated upper and lower triple clamps. Polished (or chrome plated) header pipes. Paint.... DucPainter, have you really, completely, totally retired? I hope not, because I was counting on you painting this bike! I'm thinking of the classic burgundy and black scheme that my original 750GT was, but with the black part being clear-coated carbon fiber. (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3sl9P34pmSs/U6yAy7RwXpI/AAAAAAAAFww/xp5f1m9htNc/s1600/Ducati-750GT-the-motart-journal-1.jpg) Now, my bike doesn't have the side covers, and the tank is styled such that I don't think I can put the "Ducati" logo on it, but I'm not trying to build a REPLICA, anyway. Plus my bike *does* have the 916 solo tail, so there's plenty of extra room there for paint. I do want the black set off from the burgundy with ivory/cream (almost but not quite white) pin-striping. So I am thinking *maybe* burgundy for the fuel tank, with a center black stripe (and will have to duplicate the carbon fiber pattern in that stripe somehow), and burgundy for the tail section, but with black highlighting. Maybe even something reminiscent of the Sport, but not in orange: (http://www.bevelheaven.com/bikes4sale/1972-sport/72-sport.jpg) Lots of things to ponder. Maybe I'll need to find someone adept at photoshopping, and work up some mock-ups on photos of my bike, after the goiter is amputated from its side! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 02, 2016, 04:05:50 AM Nothing comes to mind that would weigh less than using 6x steel bolts. [clap] I just saw this, must've missed it the first time around! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 04, 2016, 05:42:46 PM Bike went to my former race sponsor's independent shop today for the PC-III install and dynotuning. And it went there under its own power.
VERY much looking forward to getting it back, test riding it, then getting up to my Ducati dealer for the instrument cluster fettling. June 20 is the first outing for the track bike (my other DS1000SS) this year; riding it at my local track. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on June 04, 2016, 05:45:54 PM [popcorn] [thumbsup]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 06, 2016, 05:12:39 AM Talk about putting lipstick on a pig. I guess this "bling" will not stand out like such a sore thumb after the full cosmetic rebuild next winter!
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7452/27346825442_470920b29f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HExCso) (https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7222/27346822912_4fd43387f3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HExBGL) (https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7571/27411861226_77568fbbdf.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HLhXk1) (https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7215/27169488910_d9ed986407.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HoSJtY) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on June 06, 2016, 05:14:41 AM Dripping with Ti and billet alloy. [drool]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 09, 2016, 01:51:42 PM So, there have been a few complications with the dyno tuning. First problem was that my Power Commander III was for a Ducati 998 Superbike; not a Ducati SuperSport 1000. However, upon a comparison inspection, the PCIII on the track bike was also originally for a Ducati 998.
So that should not be the problem. I took the PCIII from the track bike over to my tuner's shop for him to try it on the project bike. It worked; at least well enough for him to see that the other PCIII should work on the project bike. Of course, we did not want to change the tune on the track bike's PCIII; so tonight he is going to reinstall the original PCIII on the project, and try to dial it in properly. Fingers crossed! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 11, 2016, 05:42:44 PM Unfortunately, more problems turned up than my independent shop could deal with, so I trailered the bike up to a Ducati dealer today.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on June 12, 2016, 11:33:46 AM [popcorn]
Awaiting the outcome. Good luck. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 12, 2016, 03:49:24 PM [popcorn] Thanks; I'm hoping it is nothing major and that I'll be able to spend the rest of the summer doing "shake-down" rides. Fingers crossed.Awaiting the outcome. Good luck. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Lars D on June 30, 2016, 02:57:00 PM So ,how goes it?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on June 30, 2016, 06:36:54 PM Got a call from the Ducati Dealer Who May Not Be Named today. The bike is back up and running without the PC-III. The GT1000 instrument cluster has been integrated. Bike will be test ridden tomorrow and we'll discuss the possible (probable) need for the ECU to be flashed with a different/custom tune; afraid the stock parameters are not adjustable enough for the open intake/exhaust.
Meanwhile; ordered 30mm lowering footpegs; they'll be 4-6 weeks (on a slow boat from Germany, apparently). But I should be riding the bike within a week! Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on July 05, 2016, 10:19:27 AM No news on the project bike, but two weeks ago I took the track bike out to Summit Point, West Virgina. The guy who bought my old Ducati 800SS Moto_ST AMA race bike was there, too:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7338/27884243981_2daeb8f34c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ju33gg) I had a better day than he did, as he ended his day with a crash in Turn 1 when he caught the inside curbing and highsided. Luckily no major injury, just banged and bruised. The bike will require more repairs than it did during its AMA roadracing days, though. I finished up early on a hot day: (https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7138/27682154370_93cfd8cf73.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jbbh4C) I guess I do have some news to report on the project bike; it's at least five pounds lighter now, since I just got fed up with carrying around my own extra weight and got serious about dropping 20 pounds before my next track day. Oh, and also, I ordered a pair of these for more comfort while riding the project bike: (http://www.whaccessories.com/images/GSGFootPegLowerKit.jpg) And I bought this to replace the stock plastic crankcase breather tank on the project: (https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7453/27495113224_726f23a45f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HTDDfh) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Speeddog on July 05, 2016, 10:42:25 AM Where did you find that CF breather tank?
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on July 11, 2016, 10:06:37 AM Where did you find that CF breather tank? EBay. Source of all weird, light stuff (if you wait long enough!) Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on July 11, 2016, 10:24:43 AM Unfortunately, it appears that there is an issue with the ECU; once the bike was taken out for a test ride, the sporadic cut-outs and recycling of the instruments that showed up on the dyno have resurfaced.
Investigation continues. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 27, 2016, 05:10:51 PM Got the bike back from the Ducati Dealer Who Will Not Be Named.
GT1000 instrument panel works. ECU sent out and immobilizer circuitry nullified. Then, on 9/19, at what had (up until then) been a fun track day, I crashed hard into the tire wall outside turn eight at Summit Point Main, messed up the ultra light track bike pretty good, myself even better; shattered my left humerus into four pieces (elbow to shoulder stainless steel plate & 12 screws surgically inserted 9/20) and broke my right leg just below the hip socket. $37,000 helicopter evac to Winchester Memorial; four days there, then two weeks @ acute rehab hospital in Aldie. Now back to work, outpatient rehab twice a week. Here's the arm right after surgery: (https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5445/30308574500_cc28e69ff3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nbgngj)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Nbgngj) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr I was somewhat stunned: (https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5810/30491592182_538485f1c3_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nsro3A)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Nsro3A) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr While I was still in the rehab hospital learning to walk again, I was even more stunned to receive this: (https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5457/29974696783_a57d0c8d53_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MELa3X)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/MELa3X) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Anyway, a little more than five weeks have passed, and I'm doing much better. I went back to work 1/2 time on October 12, and today was my first full time day back at work. I've been doing a little fiddling on the street bike project too attend to my mental rehab, as well. I installed a toggle switch to replace the factory ignition switch and key. (This was the first, test switch, and it was the wrong type, but worked well enough to let me know that all would be well with the correct switch): (https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5636/29974696243_1c1e3fa41d_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MEL9TD)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/MEL9TD) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr I installed the lowering footpegs: (https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5333/30572155516_724fcd590a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NzyhHA)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/NzyhHA) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr I replaced the titanium bolts securing the rear brake rotor with the oem steel bolts, so the speedo works. Hurt though, adding weight back to the bike! (A hurt that is somewhat tempered by the fact that I have lost 15 pounds since the accident.) Next up is fabricating a bracket for the Ohlins steering damper, and replacing the non-sealed DPST ignition switch with a new triple-sealed switch, and fabricating a mount for that in some super secret hidden location. Oh, yeah, and I had a friend take the bike out for a ride and he came back with an idiotic grin on his face. I'll probably just bore out the track bike motor to 1,123 (?) cc over the winter, lower the compression a half point or so, and install it in the street bike, because after 28 fun-filled years at the track, I've decided to leave that to the next generation! Oh, and .... I went by my storage unit today after my first full eight hour day at work, (and an hour of physical therapy after that), and took my first look at the track bike since the accident: (https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5742/30491594252_dcc8b392d7.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NsroEh)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/NsroEh) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5600/30520306801_46bb00c3f4.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NuYxUe)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/NuYxUe) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (You can't see it, but the front BST carbon fiber wheel is nicely shattered, and the carbon-Kevlar ETI FuelCel "Sprint" fuel tank ruptured.) I should probably continue to concentrate on the street project! Tim in Herndon, Va. Happy to be alive. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: kopfjäger on October 27, 2016, 05:45:19 PM Ouch!!
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: NAKID on October 27, 2016, 05:53:48 PM Damn man! Heal up quick.
What caused the crash? Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on October 27, 2016, 07:45:32 PM Yikes!
Heal up man. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Howie on October 27, 2016, 09:42:55 PM Ouch indeed!
To a quick and complete recovery [beer] Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: ducpainter on October 28, 2016, 02:33:24 AM What howie said!
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 28, 2016, 02:48:31 AM Damn man! Heal up quick. What caused the crash? Throttle stuck wide open exiting turn seven. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 28, 2016, 01:16:00 PM A few low quality pics of the project as it looks now, kind of "dry build" complete - about where I wanted to be at the beginning of the summer. Not that I am complaining, mind you!
Rider's eye view. Ducati 749/999 radial master cylinders. OEM Ducati 1000SS left handlebar switch assembly; I need to have a custom, longer choke cable made before I can actually hook up the choke (really, fast idle) lever. OEM European Ducati right handlebar switch assembly with headlight off/city/on switch instead of the U.S. blank-off plate. OEM Ducati 848 grips. OEM NOS Ducati GT1000 instrument cluster. Modified triple clamp with Ducati Monster S2R1000 top triple, replica Norton 850 Commando Roadster (U.S. or "western") handlebars, aftermarket carbon fiber replicas of Ducati Monster headlamp bucket, headlamp support ears. OEM Ducati Monster headlamp & trim ring, and turn signals. Napoleon Baren bar-end mirrors. (https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5462/30537851741_2696d33b2b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Nwwtpc)Project Street Light (https://flic.kr/p/Nwwtpc) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Left side view. Carbon fiber Monster replica front fender. BST carbon fiber wheels. ETI Fuelcel carbon-kevlar "Sprint" model fuel tank. Carbon fiber replica Ducati 916 monoposto tail with Sargeant saddle. Modified frame with OEM Ducati 916 monoposto alloy subframe. BUB Enterprises upswept reverse cone megaphone slip-ons on oem Ducati 1000SS headers. Custom hangars. 1991-1998 generation Ducati 900SS lightweight alloy sidestand and sidestand mount. Side mounted dual ignition coils relocated under the fuel tank. (https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5681/30326086630_ef6dcfa7fd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NcP81A)Project Street Light (https://flic.kr/p/NcP81A) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Rear view. Carbon fiber undertray and rear fender, carbon fiber hugger. OEM Ducati 916 taillight and turn signals. (https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5625/30537853261_775cca4aab.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NwwtRp)Project Street Light (https://flic.kr/p/NwwtRp) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Overhead view: (https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5541/30589970956_0c53d7a8dd.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NB8ACm)Project Street Light (https://flic.kr/p/NB8ACm) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Right/front 3/4 view: Ducati Performance 1098 carbon fiber clutch cover, Ducati Performance carbon fiber cam drive belt covers (https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5682/30537852461_4a1fd8eb77.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NwwtBB)Project Street Light (https://flic.kr/p/NwwtBB) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Right/rear 3/4 view: "razor cut" rear brake rotor, titanium rear axle. (https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5792/30589970786_62eac790ed.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NB8Azq)Project Street Light (https://flic.kr/p/NB8Azq) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Pinion on November 01, 2016, 01:30:38 PM sorry to hear about the crash, good to hear you will be well [thumbsup]
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on November 04, 2016, 12:17:28 PM sorry to hear about the crash, good to hear you will be well [thumbsup] Thanks, I'm sure I'll feel better when I can ride again! Surgeon on Wednesday said Thanksgiving; so about three-four weeks. Hope we have one of our customary warm-ups about that time, so I can take the project bike out for a short ride. Meanwhile, I'm working on figuring out how I'll rebuild the track bike for sale, and which bits off it (besides the motor and the front brake rotors at this point) will eventually go on the street project. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on November 04, 2016, 12:23:31 PM Part of rehab is project work [thumbsup].
Looking good. Intrrested in the dry weight when your done. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on November 26, 2016, 01:23:37 PM Part of rehab is project work [thumbsup]. Looking good. Intrrested in the dry weight when your done. Rode for the first time yesterday since the crash on 9/19/2-016. 66 days off motorcycles, longest since I started riding in the summer of 1978. Feel alive again. (https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5747/30451191163_6ac399953f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NoSjei)Recent (https://flic.kr/p/NoSjei) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr I rode the bike to my local independent motorcycle dealer (Who Shall Not Be Named, in case someone once had a bad time with that particular establishment) and siphoned most of the fuel out of the tank. Up it went on the calibrated race scale. 339 pounds. Pretty happy with that. Put the gas back in it and rode home. (https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5338/31144409511_1c5ca58979.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ps8eTM)Recent (https://flic.kr/p/Ps8eTM) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Special thanks to by former MSF instructing partner, former LD riding partner, former race partner, and one of my best friends, George Vensko, for driving 80 miles to my house to go riding with me, and to his girl Melodie for snapping the photos of me riding. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on November 27, 2016, 05:19:27 AM [thumbsup]
Very cool on a number of levels. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: Nekkid Tim on December 08, 2016, 01:03:17 PM So some dry build "shakedown" notes. All four of the brass ferrules for the bolts that secure the rear taillight and seat bracket hardware pulled out of the aftermarket carbon fiber monoposto 916 tail section on my way to work earlier this week:
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5491/31457693045_e0180806b9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PVNUb2)Snaps (https://flic.kr/p/PVNUb2) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5492/30661258943_ed2c46b7c2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NHqY4z)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/NHqY4z) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr It was an interesting ride home, with the seat/tail/taillight secured only by the front seat latch and my body weight! So, I figured, back on with the heavy (but sturdy!) ABS plastic OEM Ducati 916 monoposto tail section, and while I was at it, an OEM Monster front fender: (https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5593/31457691275_c70d78c483.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PVNTDv)Snaps (https://flic.kr/p/PVNTDv) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr (https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5672/31420602436_49d19651f3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PSwNqL)Snaps (https://flic.kr/p/PSwNqL) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr I have also decided that - even though I used to *LOVE* bar end mirrors on *all* my vintage bikes, and even though this bike in 2016 pretty much *IS* a vintage bike; I don't like them after all. So I spent several hours combing through both used OEM Ducati mirrors as well as aftermarket offerings both new and used, on eBay and elsewhere. Ended up buying these lightly used "take-off" Ducati Diavel mirrors: (https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/647/31476117916_7950f9daaa.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PXrkfd)diavel_mirrors (https://flic.kr/p/PXrkfd) by s4rsrider (https://www.flickr.com/photos/30673776@N04/), on Flickr Tim Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on December 08, 2016, 02:30:56 PM I agree, the bar end mirrors don't suit that bike. The yellow front guard and tail section tie in quite well too.
Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: MendoDave on December 11, 2016, 11:12:01 AM Some micro balloons and perhaps a few more layers of composite should fix those nut inserts. It's nice if you can vacuum bag it but if you cant just put a heat lamp on it.
Sorry to hear about the crash, injuries, and unscheduled expense. Title: Re: DS1000SS Nekkid Roadster Build Post by: koko64 on December 11, 2016, 06:27:19 PM Having the tank and guard painted to match the yellow of the tail section would be icing on the cake. The yellow works. [thumbsup]
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