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Title: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 04:17:30 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25663923/


That about does it for large scale american owned breweries.


Miller owns by SAB
Coors owns by Molson
Title: Re: InBev buys Annheuser
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 14, 2008, 04:23:08 AM
heard about this for a while...

of course, I can't complain, because I'm not a fan of mass market american beers... ;)
Title: Re: InBev buys Annheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 05:03:29 AM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on July 14, 2008, 04:23:08 AM
heard about this for a while...

of course, I can't complain, because I'm not a fan of mass market american beers... ;)

Negotiations were on going, but A-B tried to fight it off by acquiring more of Modelo, however, it didn't work.


A-B already did the majority of the importing of Inbev products, so not sure what this will mean.

Hopefully, the price of Beck's and Stella will come down.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: junior varsity on July 14, 2008, 07:21:52 AM
Sweetwater is still made in Athens, in a small-ish brewery. I'm A-OK.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: desmopr on July 14, 2008, 07:22:07 AM
Maybe now we'll have a quality product from AB, who knows?   :-\
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 07:26:48 AM
Quote from: desmopr on July 14, 2008, 07:22:07 AM
Maybe now we'll have a quality product from AB, who knows?   :-\

Oh come on.

Bud Light with lime is the greatest thing since sliced bread
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: desmopr on July 14, 2008, 07:36:10 AM
baaaawaaaabaaawaaaaa!!!!!   :-X
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: Magnus on July 14, 2008, 08:12:21 AM
makes sense, stella is the bud of europe
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: lauramonster on July 14, 2008, 09:24:49 AM
Not a bud fan.  Hopefully, they will improve the product.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: OwnyTony on July 14, 2008, 10:00:05 AM
NOOOO, AB or another American firm is suppose to go around buying other breweries. 
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: ducpenguin on July 14, 2008, 10:10:26 AM
Sad to see an American icon changing hands...Think of all the AB comercials...many of them are very patriotic.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: bryant8 on July 14, 2008, 10:22:18 AM
FYI, it's MillerCoors now

A few of my local DMFs work over at the Ft Worth plant.  The merge went down a week or two ago
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: ducpenguin on July 14, 2008, 10:10:26 AM
Sad to see an American icon changing hands...Think of all the AB comercials...many of them are very patriotic.

I don't think that will change
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: x136 on July 14, 2008, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: lauramonster on July 14, 2008, 09:24:49 AM
Not a bud fan.  Hopefully, they will improve the product.

Then it wouldn't be Budweiser.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: junior varsity on July 14, 2008, 12:38:51 PM
Apparently, it used to be far better, pre WWII.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cmorgan47 on July 14, 2008, 01:51:06 PM
meh, local's where it's at when it comes to beer
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 14, 2008, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: OwnyTony on July 14, 2008, 10:00:05 AM
NOOOO, AB or another American firm is suppose to go around buying other breweries. 

I thought harley-davidson was buying them? :D
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: slowpoke13 on July 14, 2008, 02:39:42 PM
Hmm.. you mean a larger company came in and bought then. Said "we won't change it" and now.. only time will tell.

Sounds like what A/B has done to numerous microbreweries (Old Dominion being the last one I knew of - Ohh, and they said they wouldn't change it... yeah.. ok... )
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: MotoCreations on July 14, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Yet another reason why one needs to support their small local independent breweries.  At least the money you pay for the beer stays local. 

Buy a "Bud" now and your money goes to Europe.  Add it to the "ixnay beer list" along with Coors / Miller, etc.

What gets sold next in the USA to foreign interests -- the Grand Canyon?  The Alamo?  California?  McDonald's?  The New York Yankee's?  It's really sad to be honest that we will sell anything for the right price to turn a buck.  What happened to being proud of what you do (and make) and making an honest living from it?
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: OwnyTony on July 14, 2008, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: MotoCreations on July 14, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Yet another reason why one needs to support their small local independent breweries.  At least the money you pay for the beer stays local. 

Buy a "Bud" now and your money goes to Europe.  Add it to the "ixnay beer list" along with Coors / Miller, etc.

What gets sold next in the USA to foreign interests -- the Grand Canyon?  The Alamo?  California?  McDonald's?  The New York Yankee's?  It's really sad to be honest that we will sell anything for the right price to turn a buck.  What happened to being proud of what you do (and make) and making an honest living from it?

That was kind of what i was saying with my original post as to American breweries should be buying others foreign ones (though they have been doing that).  Bud was the last BIG American brewer. 
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 14, 2008, 06:49:31 PM
Quote from: MotoCreations on July 14, 2008, 02:41:27 PM

Buy a "Bud" now and your money goes to Europe.  Add it to the "ixnay beer list" along with Coors / Miller, etc.


Perhaps you would prefer we stopped buying Italian bikes and therefore, the mods for them?
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
Quote from: someguy on July 14, 2008, 06:49:31 PM
Perhaps you would prefer we stopped buying Italian bikes and therefore, the mods for them?

Exactly.

that logic makes no sense.


Hate to break it to you guys, but most American companies all hold their debt in foreign countries (i.e. Luxembourg is a HUGE tax haven).

Sure, it hits our GDP, but the money is eventually transfered out of this country.


Why do you think about 90% of US companies are registered in Delaware?
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: Le Pirate on July 14, 2008, 07:50:10 PM
Eh...


thats all I have to say about this sale. I don't like their beer. My favorite is made at a little brewery in backwoods Louisiana. Abita Springs. Purple haze is awesome.



As far as American companies, Euro Companies, Mid-East companies....I'm over it. It's a global market now and we're all going to have to learn to deal with that.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 07:58:28 PM
It is actually a good deal for A-B and their stockholders.

The stockholders got a substantial premium for their shares.

It is also good for A-B because InBev already has distribution in emerging markets, so why not get Budweiser involved?

Believe it or not, Budweiser is a popular beer.

Regardless of what people on here drink (seems to be all micro brews), A-B isn't a huge brewery because people don't buy their beer.......
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: krolik on July 14, 2008, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 07:58:28 PM
It is actually a good deal for A-B and their stockholders.

The stockholders got a substantial premium for their shares.

It is also good for A-B because InBev already has distribution in emerging markets, so why not get Budweiser involved?

Believe it or not, Budweiser is a popular beer.

Regardless of what people on here drink (seems to be all micro brews), A-B isn't a huge brewery because people don't buy their beer.......

A-B has 48% of the US market, and the beer market is pretty flat.   [laugh]

I read about it today, and part of the deal was that A-B gets 2 seats on the InBev Board. 
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: factorPlayer on July 14, 2008, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 14, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
Why do you think about 90% of US companies are registered in Delaware?

Don't overstate it.  It's about half of all public US companies.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: Kaveh on July 15, 2008, 12:00:33 AM
I like Budweiser, it has it's place. 

i remember reading somewhere that the word 'Budweiser' is actually Hebrew, and it means beer?  Anyways...I don't really care., I'll still drink beer (if it's Budweiser or anything else)
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: TiNi on July 15, 2008, 04:15:44 AM
i never liked butweiper beer  :P yucky
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 15, 2008, 04:38:04 AM
Quote from: factorPlayer on July 14, 2008, 11:17:08 PM
Don't overstate it.  It's about half of all public US companies.

You said public companies.


I did not.


Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: OwnyTony on July 15, 2008, 06:12:19 AM
semi jack but what about Delaware makes corporations set up there?  I would imagine it has something to do with state tax breaks or something but could you guys in the know go a little further in detail into it?
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 15, 2008, 06:25:04 AM
Quote from: OwnyTony on July 15, 2008, 06:12:19 AM
semi jack but what about Delaware makes corporations set up there?  I would imagine it has something to do with state tax breaks or something but could you guys in the know go a little further in detail into it?


http://www.corpomax.com/edelaware.html


I could type it out, but am kind of busy.


I guess as a quick overview, the state has favorable laws.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: madmax178 on July 15, 2008, 06:25:32 AM
If none of you guys drink budweiser, then I guess that for sure throws beers like keystone  off the list.  I like bud light, to me it's a premium beer compared to others like keystone.  Although all this talk about microbreweries could make for a good road trip to discover them.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: junior varsity on July 15, 2008, 07:53:34 AM
good god. BL is not a premium anything, other than liquid for beer pong or flip cup (and related barbeque/tailgate drinking games)

www.ratebeer.com  try it out.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 15, 2008, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: ato memphis on July 15, 2008, 07:53:34 AM
good god. BL is not a premium anything, other than liquid for beer pong or flip cup (and related barbeque/tailgate drinking games)

www.ratebeer.com  try it out.

Beer is all about personal taste.


Where do you buy the top 50 beers on that list? Also, what is the average price per six pack?
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: junior varsity on July 15, 2008, 08:44:04 AM
You can order them from many online liquor and wine stores (If you have a fancy liquor store in your area, you might be in luck). I used to keep up with it, and try a different one of the fancy ones about once per month.

I had never had a dopplebock before i found that site. I think they are pretty good now, but not something you sit down and enjoy a six pack of.  Optimator, Celebrator, etc. Pretty good.

Most of the fancy beers are above 6% alcohol, and in Tennessee, that means it HAS to be in the liquor store (stupid law).
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 15, 2008, 08:50:21 AM
Nothing on that list really is appetizing to me, way too many stouts.

that's pretty cool it is out there and you can actually find them for sampling.


Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: IdZer0 on July 15, 2008, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 15, 2008, 08:41:27 AM
Where do you buy the top 50 beers on that list? Also, what is the average price per six pack?

Pretty much in any café around here. Granted 'here' is Belgium :P

And I wouldn't worry too much; InBev has a reputation of leaving the original beers/breweries relatively unchanged. That's why it has so many different beers.
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 15, 2008, 12:05:03 PM
Quote from: IdZer0 on July 15, 2008, 11:42:44 AM
Pretty much in any café around here. Granted 'here' is Belgium :P

And I wouldn't worry too much; InBev has a reputation of leaving the original beers/breweries relatively unchanged. That's why it has so many different beers.


I like me some Westmall
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: derby on July 15, 2008, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: Kaveh on July 15, 2008, 12:00:33 AM

i remember reading somewhere that the word 'Budweiser' is actually Hebrew, and it means beer? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser
Title: Re: InBev buys Anheuser
Post by: Kaveh on July 15, 2008, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: derby on July 15, 2008, 07:45:59 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budweiser

What took you so long!  [cheeky]