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Title: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Rudemouthsky on March 08, 2015, 07:51:03 PM
 [laugh] [laugh]

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-CNC-Brembo-19-RCS-Radial-Brake-Master-Cylinder-18-20mm-Adjustable-Folding-Lever/32293407294.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-CNC-Brembo-19-RCS-Radial-Brake-Master-Cylinder-18-20mm-Adjustable-Folding-Lever/32293407294.html)

Click the pic...I'm still LOL'ing...

Uhhh $35??? somebody test these :P

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/247prophet/brombolol_zpsmowjguan.jpg~original) (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/247prophet/media/brombolol_zpsmowjguan.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Nibor on March 09, 2015, 02:51:51 AM
Sh!t like this just reminds me of skerples!! [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: oldndumb on March 09, 2015, 10:36:05 AM
Remember the Pazomas?  ;D


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Rudemouthsky on March 09, 2015, 11:54:50 AM
Remember the Pazomas?  ;D

Funny you ask because there just so happen to be Pazoma levers for the BROMBO RCS master cylinder!

http://m.aliexpress.com/item/659159356.html?tracelog=storedetail2mobilesitedetail (http://m.aliexpress.com/item/659159356.html?tracelog=storedetail2mobilesitedetail)


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: NAKID on March 09, 2015, 12:18:51 PM
How about these? They're actually listed as RIZOMA:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-RIZOMA-motorcycle-front-brake-pump-fluid-tank-For-honda-yamaha-ducati/32256110584.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-RIZOMA-motorcycle-front-brake-pump-fluid-tank-For-honda-yamaha-ducati/32256110584.html)


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Howie on March 09, 2015, 01:36:03 PM
Anybody want to buy a Bolivia watch?


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: DarkMonster620 on March 09, 2015, 02:07:11 PM
How bout Dacati Office Supplies?

http://dctdacati.com/cms/ (http://dctdacati.com/cms/)


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: EEL on March 09, 2015, 02:50:07 PM
Maybe we can get Brombo Racing to sponsor some trackdays.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: monsta on March 10, 2015, 03:12:37 AM
Remember the Pazomas?  ;D

hahaha  yeah, thats the first thing I thought of!!


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: MotoPsycho on March 10, 2015, 10:44:21 AM
You guys are going about it all wrong! I want the whole bike, not just parts.

http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/why-is-suzuki-helping-fund-this-chinese-ducati-knockof-1687556766/+damon (http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/why-is-suzuki-helping-fund-this-chinese-ducati-knockof-1687556766/+damon)


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: ajw85 on March 10, 2015, 11:39:26 AM
How do these knockoffs happen? Does someone reverse engineer the original part and then make it at a factory or does the Brembo Chinese factory stay open for an extra shift and run off some more product which then leaves through the secret back door?

For $45; it would be interesting to get and disassemble and see where the differences lie...


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: MotoPsycho on March 10, 2015, 11:54:28 AM
It's a fair assumption that there are VERY slack tolerances. A small sacrifice for large production numbers. I'd bet fit and finish on the outside might be nice, but inside looks like a bomb went off.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: duccarlos on March 10, 2015, 12:53:50 PM
I presume that they can probably reverse engineer these part pretty easily. Most likely they save on materials.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Triple J on March 10, 2015, 01:28:26 PM
They may not have to reverse engineer them at all. They might be the ones that build the Brembo pieces!

Loosen the tolerances a bit, use cheaper machinists (effective training program), fire the QAQC guy altogether, and sell direct to the public!


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: NAKID on March 10, 2015, 01:33:34 PM
They may not have to reverse engineer them at all. They might be the ones that build the Brembo pieces!

Loosen the tolerances a bit, use cheaper machinists (effective training program), fire the QAQC guy altogether, and sell direct to the public!

They may not even have to do that? They could sell directly to the public for slightly more than they sell to Brembo themselves and make even more profit for the EXACT same cost...


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: MV on March 10, 2015, 06:17:08 PM
I bought one of these: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Left-Radial-Master-Cylinder-Stunt-Bike-Brake-Clutch-FZR-YZF-CBR-ZX-13mm-/221502961643?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33929af7eb (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Left-Radial-Master-Cylinder-Stunt-Bike-Brake-Clutch-FZR-YZF-CBR-ZX-13mm-/221502961643?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33929af7eb)

But I got it direct from China for about $30. It looked pretty decent in the pics, but didn't hold up to scrutiny in the flesh. Dodgy action, bad tolerances & the brake fluid hose was not compatible with brake fluid, sweated like a pregnant dog! Anodizing was also sub par. Still in my shed, I'll pull it apart one day & see how bad it is inside.

Never used it, it was just fitted to my trackbike for a bit, replaced it with a late model Gixxer unit. That one in the phopo actually looks pretty decent, might be worth a shot for the price!


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: koko64 on March 10, 2015, 06:20:56 PM
Not me. :o


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Rudemouthsky on March 10, 2015, 07:24:22 PM
There doesn't look to be any way the ones I posted are "made in the same factory" as genuine Brembo MC's. Even in the pics they look like cheap pot metal poorly seamed together. I'm no stranger to CN merchandise...their quality is all over the spectrum + -, they can build good products for a low price, but not a direct to public $39 MC. They can't even make a half decent $39 tattoo machine which is a very simple device unless I bought at least several hundred of em.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: MotoPsycho on March 24, 2015, 12:03:38 PM
I got to looking at that motoo outfit and even if some of their stuff is knockoff, it cheap enough not to matter.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-Universal-motorcycle-front-brake-pump-fluid-tank-bracket/32304184389.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-Universal-motorcycle-front-brake-pump-fluid-tank-bracket/32304184389.html)

I like these little guys. I could do all sort of things. And they're cheap. I can make them suit my needs. Sometimes chinese knockoffs can be of some use after all.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: oldndumb on March 24, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
I got to looking at that motoo outfit and even if some of their stuff is knockoff, it cheap enough not to matter.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-Universal-motorcycle-front-brake-pump-fluid-tank-bracket/32304184389.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Motoo-Universal-motorcycle-front-brake-pump-fluid-tank-bracket/32304184389.html)

I like these little guys. I could do all sort of things. And they're cheap. I can make them suit my needs. Sometimes chinese knockoffs can be of some use after all.

Damn! The wonders of CNC and cheap labor. Now, if they would just realize that their anodizing color palette sucks and use dyes like the rest of the world.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: MotoPsycho on March 24, 2015, 01:38:04 PM
I'd spray paint them black anyways. Just like most of my parts.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: memper on March 25, 2015, 05:35:13 AM
Eli, years ago for a build I bought a set of the Brombo radials from a seller on ebay. They leaked so I got a couple of the rebuild kits from Yoyodyne and they worked well enough but got rid of them because while they worked I still felt a lack of confidence. Waited a while and found a used radial set from, I think a multistrada.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: Rudemouthsky on March 25, 2015, 07:39:04 AM
Thanks for the feedback I actually was curious. But I already purchased authentic RCS masters last year and they've been patiently waiting. I would never put them on my M944SS anyway, but at this price I still might pick up a set for the RAT750 if it ever gets built.


Title: Re: Funniest knock off I've seen
Post by: memper on March 25, 2015, 07:54:31 AM
Try it. But I dont think I need to remind you how difficult returns are to China.


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