Ducati Monster Forum

So I have a chance to buy a Sport 1000S (bubble fairing) with 6k miles and Termis. Problem is to do so I'd need to sell the 2015 Diavel I just bought last year that has 1K miles on it now. Diavel is comfy and a great engine with all the latest bells and whistles but the Sport 1000s is a beautiful air cooled classic that's no longer made and they're going up in value. I should add that I do have an air cooled Monster 620 that I will never sell. So factor that in to the riding equation. Thoughts?

I highly doubt the sport classic is going up in value.

Well you can doubt it but they are. Original MSRP was $13k now they go for anywhere from $15k to 18k depending on milage, condition, color scheme etc. I know cause Ive been watching them for a few years as they sell and they do sell. Granted the S go for a bit more than the standard classic & the GTs go for a little less than both of those but compared to many Ducatis they are going up in value even with miles. Check ebay.

It sounds like your comparison points are 1) comfort, latest tech, great engine versus 2) classic, potentially valuable and/or collectible.

Value shouldn't really matter, unless you plan to hold it and sell it later. In which case, you probably don't want to put a bunch of miles on it that will decrease the value.

Are you looking at other bikes because you're not digging the Diavel?

Logically, I think you'll lose more on the Diavel than you'll gain on the Sport appreciation. They won't keep going up.

Motorcycles aren't always logical though...get whichever one you want.

My vote went to keeping the Diavel...

The Sport money is far too ridiculous... they weren't that rare.  Build a custom that hits the right notes on the baby Monster.

I just found one for $5900 (S), another for $4200(S) and four others below 8K (S). And of course some listed from 12K to 20K. Obviously the 20K bike won't sell as it's some guy that added up what he has spent and thinks that's what his bike is worth. Very few bikes increase in value, certainly not ones that were produced in the numbers these were. Since you already have a similar bike (air cooled, similar riding position), I'd keep the Diavel which is far and above a better bike. But.....if you love it, get it.

i've ridden a few diavels, and a lot of sports.  i'd be pissing the diavel off at the first opportunity.

Please tell me where you're seeing these Sport 1KS at this price point. For that kind of money I could keep the Diavel!

^^ This.

^^^^^ I agree, butt ugly bike.

I've got a sport 1000s with a bubble fairing and Termis, and I think you are going the wrong direction.  It is a very pretty bike, but. Ride it next to a superbike, monster, hypermotard or streetfighter, and it is probably going to be the least comfortable bike in the bunch.  I was (and kind of still am) considering if I could trade mine even up for the 1098s with 10k miles at the local dealership.  Because I spend another 5 or 6 k tracking down Ohlins front and back and lighter wheels, it still would be barely half the bike the superbike is, from a performance and comfort standpoint.

Find one at the right price and have three bikes. Life's short. [thumbsup]

http://motorcycles.oodle.com/ducati/for-sale/?q=sport+1000+s&oldq=ducati+sport+1000+s+&inbs=1 (http://motorcycles.oodle.com/ducati/for-sale/?q=sport+1000+s&oldq=ducati+sport+1000+s+&inbs=1)

Ahh yes Oodle. I've chased down a few bikes on Oodle that seemed to good to be true and every time they were a scam. "Bike is in storage but if you pay I can have it shipped to you." "My husband passed and I'm selling his bike. No you cant see it it's in storage." etc.  In one case on a 78 Dharma SS going for $8K I actually used google images and found the same bike for sale in New York form the real seller who was very willing to let me come see the bike. Except he wanted about 10K more for the bike than the scam artist. But you never know... I will check some of these out but typically when you see a Paul Smart going for $5K you gotta look a little more closely.

You need to make the decision for yourself.  Do take into account the opinions of folk on this board.  Your decision should take into consideration objective points like warranty on your new bike if still in effect, cost of insurance, maintenance so on and so forth.  Objectively I could never own a Sport Classic as I am inseam challenged.  Then there is the subjective part.  Aesthetics, color, cool factor etc.  IMO, a Sport Classic stacks up pretty well there, particularly with wheel, brake, suspension and exhaust upgrades tickle your fancy.

I think the new generation Ducs are great bikes, but I love the basic simplicity of the air cooled Duo Desmo Monsters (Super Sports and Sport Classics too).  Bought an '04 1000s.  Put almost what I paid into shape up and upgrades, therefore I am upside down in equity.  Yep, new this would be the case in advance.  Did I make the right decision?  I think so, maybe not, only the future will tell.

It has 17500K miles and that's what a 2006 with 17500 miles is worth. But yeah, I'm sure there are scammers there just as there are everywhere.

Kelley is a little optimistic, but:

http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/ducati/sport-1000-s/2008-ducati-sport-1000-s/suggestedretailvalue/ (http://www.kbb.com/motorcycles/ducati/sport-1000-s/2008-ducati-sport-1000-s/suggestedretailvalue/)

That would be for stock.

Go on, have three bikes. ;D As some have said, you could build your own version without the compromises over time as you can afford it. Or save up for one. All three bikes have distinctive styling which obviously captures your imagination. Go for it. [thumbsup]

I so wish there was a like button, just for Brad's post. I had someone offer $14k for my Sport1000 a year and a half ago, and I refused.  He still emails me asking if I'm ready to sell it.  Can't really imagine letting that bike go anytime soon, even though I haven't ridden either of the motos in some time.

As a Sport 1000S owner, I would recommend against it if you like your bikes to be for riding. In just about every practical usage scenario that I can imagine, the Diavel will be the better (if uglier) bike. Not that the  1000S is bad by any measure, but it is limited by its, let's say, peculiarities. And you'll almost certainly lose more money trading in the Diavel than what you'd gain by appreciation in the 1000S at this point (if any), unless you keep the miles low and hold on to it for a long time and things go the right way. As we all know, keeping the miles low = not riding, and not riding = less reason to own a bike.

And even if it does appreciate, that could be a double edged sword. I got mine used in early 2011 with Termis, side panels, Fleda taillight, and free valve adjustment thrown in for under eight grand. This was back when there were still new ones sitting unsold on the floor. I had great fun putting it through the paces and racking on the miles but now, knowing that it would cost a LOT more to replace should something happen to it, the enthusiasm for riding it just isn't the same any more.

But hey, if you've had a chance to ride it a bit and feel in your heart that you really want it, then nothing should stop you. I certainly love mine and would not sell it. Not to say I haven't been tempted before; a dealer offered a substantial markup on the offered trade-in value to offset the $14.5k he was asking for the below, with SIXTY miles on the odo:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_a7kkv4-1-I/VS6-Z_ePw4I/AAAAAAAAEow/vmmlZIzM8XM/s1600/IMAG3266.jpg)

In the end, owning a MH900e with 60 miles would probably just mean even less (and more reluctant) riding than owning a 1000S with any number of miles. So I said no.

I appreciate all the great feedback here. After having sat on a Sport 1000s & considering how limited you are in modifying the ergos due to the  bubble  fairing (raise the clipons? Nope!)  i think the right path for me is to keep the Monster & Diavel & look for a 90s era 900SS SP for $2-$3k to strip down, cafe out & mount a bubble fairing on like the Walt Seigl Leggero bikes. Thats really what I need anyways is a project bike. This way I create my own sport classic & keep the other two loves in my life.

 [thumbsup]

You can raise the clip ons a little, they have a spacer holding them down from the top yoke, it is also possible to fit the higher ones too but this involves a bit more leftfield thinking to get them to work. I've seen one guy trim his cockpit fairing but this is a step too far for me, repositioning the reservoirs may get you a bit more clearance on higher bars but its all a case of try it and see rather than a bolt on mod you can buy.
Strain on the forearms are helped greatly by installing a bigger clutch slave meaning pull is lightened on already stretched arms.

I've cafe'd my S2R and was in the middle of mods when the Sc range was released, since buying my SC new in 08(at a discount too) I've seen it almost a whisker off doubling in price, I doubt I'll see that happenning again with any other models.
I still like my cafe'd monster but it's not an SC, I'm happy with both but they are very different bike to ride.

I do like Diavels but if I buy another bike I think it'll be a proper vintage one, a Sunbeam S7 or 8, a gentlemans cruiser with none of the ridiculous image attachments of harleys or similar.

So I went with the Sport Classic 1000S and she's a beauty. At the end of the day I knew if I didnt get the Sport 1KS I'd always regret it. Right now I have all 3 bikes but it's a short lived bliss as I will sadly have to part with the Diavel. I only feel bad about it when I ride the Diavel cause she's such a great bike but at the end of the day it doesnt excite me like the Monster and the Sport 1KS. I see it as very possible that I could buy a Diavel again in the future and although I want to keep all three I cant have 3 bikes and a wife (at least not this wife) plus these 3 kids will probably be wanting to go to college and I need to prepare for that financial deluge. Oh well.. maybe I'll buy a lottery ticket today. As for the Sport 1000S ergos I had no problem on a 3.5 hour ride home with the bike so I'm not in the least bit worried. I guess the low cilp-ons on the Monster all these years did prepare me. Plus the Sport 1KS clip-ons already had the spacer removed and had been raised to right under the top triple. Super fun ride. The Termis sound great but not as great as the Boom Tubes on the Monster. I'm trying now to figure out of the baffles have or havent been removed but that's a tale for another forum. Oh and here she is ... trying to figure out what number to get. Lucky 13 or maybe number 3 is appropriate as that is what she should be in my garage if I manage to keep the Diavel.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5445/17440546861_7bab062c9a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/szamXP)My new Sport Classic (https://flic.kr/p/szamXP) by ricknieto (https://www.flickr.com/photos/65036619@N04/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8773/16899127163_4dd37eb441_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rKjrKr)3 Is a Magic Number (https://flic.kr/p/rKjrKr) by ricknieto (https://www.flickr.com/photos/65036619@N04/), on Flickr

I think three is a great number. ;D
A trinity of bikes. ;)

Gorgeous bike.

Classy!


No baffles in those pipes, the empty screw hole at the exit is the giveaway there.

Did you get the quarter fairing pieces too?, all the specific bits for these bikes are becoming hard to find and commanding high prices now.

No I still dont have the quarter fairings. The pisser is a pair sold on ebay for $250 about 3 days before I bought the bike!  [bang]

I can order them from Ducati Omaha as they are still available from Ducati but at about $250 for each side plus shipping.  >:(

If anyone has a line on a pair of these in Red let me know!

It was mentioned before....try to keep all of em. life is too short...and they look great  ;D
Having a sport classic i don´t think it is that uncomfortable, especially compared with a superbike and there is nothing like the air cooled sound with the right exhaust and for normal life the power is enough.
Enjoy. Klaus

It's a beauty and you'll be glad you followed your heart.