Whoa the other forum is a ghost town!
Anyway, looking for recommendations for a local (DC area) to install and tune a power commander for my S4. That is reasonably priced.
Thanks
Rumor has it that Donnie just got a dyno. www.ducpond.com
Thanks, wow that's far!
Quote from: Beantye on July 15, 2008, 04:09:27 PM
Thanks, wow that's far!
Yep 60-70 miles from No. VA area, cheap labor rates too. But I'm close, Reston, I have no idea what I'm doing and your bike may never run again, but I'm close, bring it on by. [bang] ???- Gene
Yep, they got the dyno in, but its not set up yet.. Now as far as the original question goes, you can take it to other places, but ya might as well take it to gene then. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
What have you done to your bike?
Probably the easiest thing to do would be to buy the PCIII from Fast By Feracci and tell them the mods you've made to your S4. They'll load a map on it based on the mods you've made. They've been making maps for those things for a long time and will probably be 95% right out of the box.
I don't know about the S4 specifically, but the directions for installing one on a 900 are very simple. It's just a plug an play operation. You just have to spend a little time moving things around a bit. I helped with a 620 install which was more complex, but nothing once can't do at home with hand tools. Either way, you can probably save yourself some $ by installing the unit yourself.
Installing the PCIII w/o a modified map (all 0s in the table) won't change the fueling from your stock config.. so adding it won't hurt anything, it just won't help until you have an adjusted map.
As suggested - if you get it from FBF they can laod a 'canned' map for you.
Also, dyno jet does have other maps one can download.. but they aren't always so great. I tired one of their maps and it was really lean in the 4-5k range and made the bike jerky. So there is that option... but it might not be the best.
Ideally, you'd have it on a Dyno and get a map for your particular set up. There's going to be time and expense for that.. but you'll get the *best* fueling for your set up and bike.
And yes winchester is far... But they have a lot of experience and specialize in Ducs
When it comes to bike service in general, I'd rather take one afternoon to take my bike to Donnie, knowing it will be done right, than spend weeks or months battling with a closer shop because something got messed up.
Donnie has decades of experience in Ducatis. He had an entire customer base before he even bought the franchise. You won't find anyone better in the region.
Chris Sanders at Battley is Ducati and DynoJet certified and can build a map and set up a PC for you also...
I'd like to chime in and add Richmond Superbike. Joey and his crew are top notch.
Its about 90miles or so from the DC metro.
I'll add one more vote for Donnie.. Coming from Baltimore a trip to winchester is an all day thing, and it's still worth the trip every time.
To add to what Yuu said...
Even if you already have the PCIII, and you do have to download a map from the website, you can still crapshoot it to get it better. In Yuu's case, you can go in and up the mixture at those RPM's. Yes it's a crapshoot, and yes it takes time to do the trial and error, but it will suffice until you get it dyno'd if the downloaded map was bad in a certain range.
The installation is a piece of cake though. I did it on my 750, and if I can do it, I'd say 95% of the population can do it. I had a bad mixture in the mid range as well and a bit of trial and error got rid of the popping. I just adjusted up the mixture a very small bit, went to ride it and repeat until it ran correctly.
Did I have the optimal fuel to air mix? I highly doubt it, but the popping was gone and I wasn't running rich or lean. I'm sure I could have gotten a few more HP out of it getting it professionally done, but the thing ran well and was I really going to notice the difference between 64 and 67 HP?