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Title: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on May 23, 2015, 01:26:21 PM
Just bought this from bellissimoto for my 796.

Anybody installed this? Thx

http://www.bellissimoto.com/DucaBikeWetClutch.html (http://www.bellissimoto.com/DucaBikeWetClutch.html)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: StephenC on May 23, 2015, 02:31:26 PM
A friend has it for his sports classic.  He didn't do the instal though.  My comment would be that you should think about changing your pressure plate at the same time as the OEM on is still ugly, through the glass.  I don't know if all the bling aluminium ones would work on a wet clutch though.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: Nibor on May 23, 2015, 03:39:19 PM
I hate that this is advertised as "fits all ducatis", yet it won't fit my 97 m750 [thumbsdown]


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on May 23, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
Easy peasy to install. Even a golfer can do it.  ;D

Use a torque wrench to avoid overtightening the fasteners. No need for any sealant.

Just be careful when fitting the ring and clear plastic cover to not not let it slip or you might scuff it.
A few pieces of masking tape placed around the circumference to hold the plate in alignment with the ring might be good insurance.
 
Once installed I suggest a soapy water mix to clean it. If you can source it, Novus No. 1 is also safe to use, plus it is anti-static.

 


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on May 24, 2015, 10:40:49 AM
I do plan to install it myself. My buddy bought one for his 620 also - plan to do his first to learn how  [thumbsup]

I bought a red (looks like a revolver's cylinder) pressure plate and some black spring endcaps.

You need sealant to install the right side case but it is not neded on the clear window piece (it has a rubber seal) I was told.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on May 24, 2015, 11:36:14 AM

You need sealant to install the right side case but it is not neded on the clear window piece (it has a rubber seal) I was told.

Correct.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on June 01, 2015, 03:05:16 PM
Still waiting for it to arrive  [coffee]. Will post some pics after I get it on.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on June 15, 2015, 02:43:12 PM
Parts came today  [beer]

(http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/monster900ie/Ducabike%20aquarium_zpsuu3uxyfg.jpg) (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/monster900ie/media/Ducabike%20aquarium_zpsuu3uxyfg.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on June 16, 2015, 05:16:59 AM
Otter,

The clear plastic disc comes covered with a protective layer which you peel off just before installation, a standard practice for most plastics and some metals. The manufacturers usually have their logo/trade-name printed on it (Kaiser/PPG,DuPont/etc.) I want to know which company made the plastic or their trade name for it. Right now, not knowing with certainty what the material is, I am limiting cleaning it to only with soap and water (Dawn dish washing liquid). I did do a very light application of Novus no. 1 to kill the static electricity. I would use Joy, but it is not readily available in my market.

On mine, the logo was not readable due to the way the cut for the disc was made on the plastic panel. Is it legible on yours?

Thanks,
OnD


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: 2WheelsFTW on June 16, 2015, 08:45:33 AM
Do I see a red pressure plate!? I'm thinking I am going too need one of those now  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: memper on June 16, 2015, 11:08:02 AM
IIRC there was some dude who made his own by cutting a hole in the side cover and then getting a piece of plastic with a machined lip and some tabs fabbed to hold it in place. From what I remember it was a pretty slick mod. Lemmie see if I can dig it up.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: memper on June 16, 2015, 11:15:09 AM
Got it:

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/40085-open-wet-clutch.html (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/40085-open-wet-clutch.html)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on June 16, 2015, 12:17:53 PM
 [popcorn]


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: stopintime on June 16, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
I think there was another guy who did this too...

His window was mounted from the inside - flush with the clutch cover - no screws visble (IIRC)



Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on June 18, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
Otter,

The clear plastic disc comes covered with a protective layer which you peel off just before installation, a standard practice for most plastics and some metals. The manufacturers usually have their logo/trade-name printed on it (Kaiser/PPG,DuPont/etc.) I want to know which company made the plastic or their trade name for it. Right now, not knowing with certainty what the material is, I am limiting cleaning it to only with soap and water (Dawn dish washing liquid). I did do a very light application of Novus no. 1 to kill the static electricity. I would use Joy, but it is not readily available in my market.

On mine, the logo was not readable due to the way the cut for the disc was made on the plastic panel. Is it legible on yours?

Thanks,
OnD

OnD

Don't see any manufacturers name on the side of the plexiglass piece. If its under the protective liner Ill let you know later after it is installed.

I decided to have my dealer do it for me...I have some wrench skills but not time as I recently moved and my honey do list for the new (to us) home needs some attention. They quoted me 2 hrs of labor + tax. I asked that they catch my oil and replace it as it was changed by me recently (mobil 1 full synthetic) so doesnt need to be dumped and replaced. Ill post picks later this weekend once its done.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on June 18, 2015, 03:33:58 PM
Got it:

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/40085-open-wet-clutch.html (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/40085-open-wet-clutch.html)

Looks great! Done in 2008 too - wow. Never saw the post back them but somebody else must have because but it looks very similar to the ducabike product.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on June 19, 2015, 04:28:59 AM
Looks great! Done in 2008 too - wow. Never saw the post back them but somebody else must have because but it looks very similar to the ducabike product.

Yes, similar, but I would not go as far as to qualify it as "very.

For example, it would be extremely difficult to modify the newer cover. That is why the DucaBike product is a new cover and $$$. Their website has pics of one being machined. It starts with a very large chunk of AL and, to me, it seems that 90 % of it ends up as swarf.

My machining abilities are rudimentary but I do have the equipment to do most tasks, and can conceptualize how to do most operations. I was quite familiar with the DIY clear covers for Ducati and several other brands. My 1100evo cover design had several features which would have made it extremely difficult to mod in the same manner as those earlier examples. An easier, and more similar example would be the Panigale cover.

SV riders are probably familiar with the clear covers Vans made. While doing quite a few for the 650, he never did one for the 1000. Very similar constraints as those of some of the early Ducati wet covers and the latest designs.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on June 20, 2015, 02:26:03 PM
Here is mine installed

(http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/monster900ie/20150620_161505_zpsxgm9mxu5.jpg) (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/monster900ie/media/20150620_161505_zpsxgm9mxu5.jpg.html)

(http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj530/monster900ie/20150620_161511_zpstvntxtju.jpg) (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/monster900ie/media/20150620_161511_zpstvntxtju.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: StephenC on June 20, 2015, 03:07:27 PM
That looks fantastic.  Great work.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: Willthedub on June 21, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
I recently purchased this one at a lower price from Mark Riley on the duccutters site, check him out here.......http://www.duccutters.com/MarkRiley-OpenWetClutch.tpl#.VYc_WWK9KSM (http://www.duccutters.com/MarkRiley-OpenWetClutch.tpl#.VYc_WWK9KSM)

(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/3F2FD74A-89FA-4770-93EC-5EF6E70EE75A_zpsxd5xpoon.jpg)


(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/C64D2B5E-64F7-45F9-A334-E2750D8A4E3C_zpsmpnzn9ez.jpg)


I have to say he makes these to a very high standard and offers a great service too with brilliant communication

I can't say a bad word about it

He does them in all different finishes for probably all wet clutch covers and from what he told me he has loads pre made

And at a fraction of the cost!

You can even send him your old cover to be converted or just send it to him for a discount on a new one

Can't wait to fit it after I have it sprayed in crinkle black (glass is removable for painting/finishing)

Will post pics......


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: otter1 on June 22, 2015, 02:52:39 AM
That's a nice product ^^^

Did not see the price listed on the site but if you can send him your cover to convert in a timely manner that would be a nice mod.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: ute on June 22, 2015, 03:08:20 PM
Ditto what is price range on this ?


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on June 23, 2015, 04:46:45 AM
I recently purchased this one at a lower price from Mark Riley on the duccutters site, .....

Since it has not already been mentioned, the price differential is due to the engine cover design differences.

Certain earlier models can be modified by cutting a window in them. Later models can not be modified in that manner. They require an entirely new cover which is designed to accommodate a window. The Al stock required to machine this type is quite large, and therefore requires more machine time which translates to price. For comparison, the DucaBike clear window for the Panigale does not require a new cover and is therefore cheaper......comparatively.  ;D

Note the size of the raw stock, and consider that it is 7075 T6 or similar.
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/oldndumb/F89310602.jpg) (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/oldndumb/media/F89310602.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: 2WheelsFTW on June 23, 2015, 08:29:32 AM
Are those black spring keepers a DucaBike product?


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on June 23, 2015, 10:01:45 AM
Are those black spring keepers a DucaBike product?

Look at their website for specific model info.

http://www.ducabike.com/?___store=english&___from_store=italian (http://www.ducabike.com/?___store=english&___from_store=italian)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: Willthedub on June 23, 2015, 04:27:24 PM
I paid $580 delivered to the U.K and I didn't send my cover to him for a discount

Here is a pic of the inside





(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/1BBFDC94-AF91-4672-9C87-2C410250F13F_zpskkiscoay.jpg)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on July 17, 2015, 02:32:45 PM
On my M1100evo.

I replaced the supplied black fasteners with Titanium ones around the ring. I also removed about 1/2 inch of the dark grey finish around the pressure plate.

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/oldndumb/OnD%20M1100evo%20Clear%20Clutch.jpg) (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/oldndumb/media/OnD%20M1100evo%20Clear%20Clutch.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: SpikeC on July 17, 2015, 02:51:15 PM
That looks really sharp!


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: koko64 on July 17, 2015, 03:03:56 PM
External bolts= ease of servicing. [thumbsup] I bet you mightn't even have to drain the oil to change plates if it's on the sidestand.
Looks cool too.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: The ModFather on July 21, 2015, 05:23:03 AM
On my M1100evo.

I replaced the supplied black fasteners with Titanium ones around the ring. I also removed about 1/2 inch of the dark grey finish around the pressure plate.

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/oldndumb/OnD%20M1100evo%20Clear%20Clutch.jpg) (http://s165.photobucket.com/user/oldndumb/media/OnD%20M1100evo%20Clear%20Clutch.jpg.html)

About to do this. Which Titanium Fastners did you get and where? Thanks!


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on July 21, 2015, 05:35:15 AM
Look for MetTec on ebay.

M5-.8X18Mm

I've used Ti from several vendors in the past and found MetTec to be high quality. Other than ProTi, they are the only vendor who provides detailed information about their product. I did not use ProTi because their on line ordering process is clunky IMO.



Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: Willthedub on August 06, 2015, 12:16:40 PM
Clutch cover fitted

(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah72/willthedub/22BA1EE4-AFAE-4056-B063-26F385DE549F_zps7ah75g9b.jpg)


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: The ModFather on August 06, 2015, 02:30:57 PM
For those who have installed the Ducabike Clear Wet Clutch Cover have you noticed any issues with the oil level reading? On the Diavel forum there were some folks saying that where the sight glass is position is different and it was reading low when it actually wasnt. The Ducabike Clear Clutch cover for the Diavel is of course different than the one for the Monster so I wasnt sure if the issue was also encountered on Monsters.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: oldndumb on August 06, 2015, 06:03:57 PM
I think I measured the sight glasses before I installed mine but I could be mistaken, so I'll measure them tomorrow to be safe.

Update: Both sight glasses measured the same using the dimension from an adjacent bolt hole to the Min mark.


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: Lions Grip on August 25, 2015, 11:00:14 PM
Just got this installed on my bike. Almost done the mods. Just need clip ons, vinyl wrap forks, and finish getting the black panels painted.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5829/20865322686_21dcb7354d_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xMNeuS)IMG_0272 (https://flic.kr/p/xMNeuS) by Lion's Grip (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131298033@N06/), on Flickr


Title: Re: Ducabike oil aquarium
Post by: The ModFather on August 26, 2015, 05:15:24 PM
I took a pic of the oil level with the old clutch cover on then put the new clear ducabike clutch cover on with the bike on the kickstand (no oil was lost) then took a pic again and the oil level was the same for both old and new covers so the question I raised about incorrect oil level readings with the ducabike clutch cover is a non-issue.


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