Ducati Monster Forum

Being taller I would want the bars a little high.
Any thoughts on whats better, just using risers or replacing the whole bar with an aftermarket one.
Thanks in advance

risers are less hassle IMO

I am thinking of raising the handle bars with some extenders.
Do you all think this will affect the handling character of the bike.
I can live with the stock bar but would be a little more comfortable if it was an inch higher.
I don't want to make this change if it will affect the bike a lot because the handling is so good the way it is now.
Your thoughts please.
Thanks

How tall are you ? And what problem are you trying to solve with bar riser?

In most case, fitting a bar with different bend (and usually they are a bit higher than stock) is a better solution.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=52588.msg965870#msg965870 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=52588.msg965870#msg965870)

I am 6'2".
The riding position is ok but on long rides I feel it would be better if I could sit a bit more upright,
Thanks for the input

Hmmm... A slightly higher Rizoma bar costs little more than risers and has more sweep which is much kinder on your wrists!  8) (You'll have to drill the locating holes for the controls.) A bit less vibration too.

http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/282951-1/Rt_-Above.jpg (http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/282951-1/Rt_-Above.jpg)

See the diagrams. Mine's an MA008A. http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=562 (http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=562)

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=71009.msg1312143#msg1312143 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=71009.msg1312143#msg1312143)

Suggest you fit those knee pads too for riding in slow traffic. http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/621500SS/Accessories/621500SS.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/621500SS/Accessories/621500SS.html)

Thanks, I will check it out

Ah, okay. I don’t know how it feels like to be “too tall” for Monster.
BUT, the same logic applies here. If you want “slightly more upright” riding position, often times, all you need is to move the grips (hand controls) a bit closer, NOT higher, with more comfortable / natural sweep back angle of the grips.

As for if it affects the handling of the bike, if you move only a small amount (eg, no need to change throttle cable, clutch & brake lines, you’re fine.

Could I just rotate the handle bar backwards a bit? or do I need to replace the bar with an after market one

The MA 008's have ~ 3/4" more rise and 2 1/2" more sweep than the stock 796 bar, about the limit of the lines and cables.

I am not that mechanically inclined thou I am learning.
Any idea how much this will cost to get done by someone

Around $150 - $200 tops all-in including the bar. Depends on your dealer's labor rate. In South Jersey? Call Ferracci and ask. You should have everything adjusted and drilled while you sit on the bike.

Okay Thanks.
I am in-between Ferraci and the Metuchen dealership, I call them both.

No experience with Metuchen but are you sure you want to ride to Northern NJ.  ???  ;D Isn't that a Kawasaki dealership?  8) Maybe they are wonderful. I'd ask somebody local though.

Ferracci only sells and works on Italian machines. I'd guess they'd be more sympathetic to your needs but it's been eons since I last did business with Eraldo. Your call. Maybe his son, Larry, runs the place now? No clue.

Did you ever fit a 14T front sprocket? It's cheap and they could do that for you too. Just be sure to get the right one as it only fits the M796 and Hyper 796, Driven Racing #1067-525-14T.

Cross County in Metuchen has been selling and servicing Ducatis for...probably a decade or more.

What Curmudgeon said.
I have Rizoma bar and knee or tank pad on my bike. They make the bike really comfortable. The rizoma bar, since it's a bit narrower than stock bar will make steering (turning the bar at slow speed) feels heavier.  When I first rode it after installing the bar, I thought I had a flat tire...cause it's heavier to turn the handlebar... but the Rizoma bar makes the bike really comfortable.

bob

Thanks guys
I have not had the sprocket changed.
I think I will go to Ferraci and get it all done in one go.
I don't want to be away from my Monster for too long  ;D

Yes, and not having to drill locating holes for the controls.....  is... a bit less hassle.

Just sayin'.

Risers on stock bars do nothing to address the lack of sweep and uncomfortable wrist angle.  ;) The Rizoma in silver looks stock but also has a much nicer finish and transmits less vibration than the stocker tapered bar. YMMV...

Ferracci has had the franchise since 1991 when Eraldo was doing the World Superbike 851's and 888's for the factory. Hope they are still that good.

When you call, to save confusion, give them the exact part numbers I supplied in this thread. Sh*t happens.  ;) You should also be there when the bar is fitted so that you can sit on the bike and have the controls and mirrors positioned the way you like. That will save drilling twice!  ;D Even MY very expert dealer made that error first time!

No idea whether they can do the Tech Spec pads like mine, but if you're interested in those and they are familiar, mention those as well. Those are really good but a bit fussy to install.

OP didn't seek advice about uncomfortable wrist angle, just higher bars.

The cost of risers here is about the same as the Rizoma bar. Down there it might be different. Labor to install along with slight re-routing of lines/cables is also roughly equal. The wrist angle is much more comfortable vs stock as is the finish nicer, not to mention the slightly less vibration. The OP is after greater comfort. I read all his earlier posts.  ;D

What's comfortable for one might not be for another.

Goes for gear, furniture, and moto mods.

This one is pretty much a no-brainer though.  ;) Ask sponsor Geoff at Monsterparts. He doesn't offer the higher MA008A however. http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/MA005/Bars-Mirrors/MA005.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/MA005/Bars-Mirrors/MA005.html)

Who asked about cost?

Who asked about comfortable make the beast with two backsing wrist angle and/or finish, not to mention never a mention about vibration?

Ah, so you have greater insight?  Silly make the beast with two backsing me.  You may be correct in all that you say.  The OP may even benefit from the comfort of hemorrhoid cream, but in this thread - the thread in which I'm contributing - the criteria mentioned was higher bars.  

Waffle on as you wish  ;D

No experience of hemorrhoid cream OR Viagra.  ;)

Thanks for all the input.
You boys just went off  :).
The Metuchen dealer is having an open house tomorrow so I go there and check out the bars and find out the costs.
I installed a footpeg lowering kit and will be getting the touring seat tomorrow, let see if the comfort factor increases

Sounds like a plan. It's an international community here, so lots of teasing in good fun!

If they have the MA008A bar, you can hold it over the stock bar and you'll see what's what.

The touring seat is an improvement but not the holy grail. Have them pop one on the bike and sit on it. Takes seconds to switch. See what you think. Of course, if it doesn't work, you can always sell it here. http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/96787702B/Comfort-Touring/96787702B.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/96787702B/Comfort-Touring/96787702B.html)

More expensive but taller and flatter is the Sargent seat you saw on my 796 and many here swear by them. Your bike, so your call.  ;) Sargent has their own dedicated pan and sandwich foam technology. http://www.sargentcycle.com/Seats-Accessories/Ducati-Monster-Reg-No-Heat/Black-WS-608-19.html (http://www.sargentcycle.com/Seats-Accessories/Ducati-Monster-Reg-No-Heat/Black-WS-608-19.html) BTW, Sargent has a 30-day money back guarantee; you pay the shipping both ways of course.

If I were driving to Metuchen on a Saturday..., I'd probably drive an armored SUV.  ;D But you probably already know this. Just watch the idiots!

 [clap]

Thanks again for the great insight.
I will be going in my SUV.
There is a Costco 1/2 a mile from the dealer and on Saturdays the drivers there are out of control.

So the Metuchen Dealer wants $130 to change the front Sprocket and $200 to to the Bar change (labor only, parts extra),  seems a bit much to me. Also they can't get me in for 2 weeks.
Should I attempt to do these myself or try a non-ducati mechanic?

Seems a bit high to me. Did you try Ferracci?

Just my $0.02, but a true Ducati shop with total familiarity might be a better bet. The sprocket looks easy but you need a special tool to re-adadjust the chain. Changing the bar requires drilling to do properly and some careful cable and line routing.

How mechanical are you? I leave this stuff to my dealer as I can't be bothered. He'd be closer to $200 for both items and it'd be done right. In fact..., it was.  ;) You should really be there when they drill the bar to get the controls/mirrors exactly where you want them.

The guy I talked to in the Metuchen dealership did not seem too knowledgeable.
I will call Feracci today as well, thou they are a little harder to get to for me.
I think I will pay the little extra money and get it done right, don't want to have a problem while riding far from home.
Thanks again for the good advise Crum

Good luck! Wish I had a name to give you but it's been eons since I did business there. Another forum member whose wife rides a 696 picked up a V7 there last year IIRC and has had no complaints I can recall. He might not pick up on this thread though...

With higher and more swept back handle bar will there be problem of hitting the tank (no longer line up with the air intake recess) ?   [coffee]

Thanks.

What are you riding? With the 796's and with the controls adjusted to my liking, there is ~ 1 cm clearance with the tank cover on both sides. If the stops were readjusted at all, I doubt more than 1 - 2 mm.

Bear in mind that a 796 has the ~ 20mm taller stock riser which subsequently appeared on the 2012(?) and later EVO's.

(http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/300632-1/796-Pantah-10-2011-Rt_.jpg)

Hey Crum
What are your thoughts about moving the mirrors to the bad end?

I'm fine with them as is. At least one side usually has a fairly full view and they are aerodynamically very quiet.

It's important to have them adjusted correctly. Carlos in Panama mentioned using a straight edge like a yard stick to set them 90 degrees across the bike vs the direction of travel. Not a fan of bar-ends unless there's no other good option.

Great, thank for the quick response.
I have to get the bars changed soon, my hands star going numb after 40 mins.

PS , lowering the pegs helped a lot.

796 sans the nice looking Pantah skin.  applause applause

You mean stops were adjusted there will be more than 1~2 cm, correct?

Thanks.

Numb? Maybe the 14T will help with that when you are riding slow around town. I try to keep the revs over 4,000. By 4,500 - 5,000 the engine is pretty smooth. 3,000 RPM under load will make your hands numb too. Try not to lug it.  ;)

Had to buy those skins because I had one of these.  :D License plate also reads "PANTAH". http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/275067-1/Pantah-600-SL.jpg (http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/275067-1/Pantah-600-SL.jpg)

The way my bar and switches/levers are adjusted, the clearance between them and the tank skin is ~ 1 cm. Just measured for you. From the base of the locknut on the stop to the end of the bolt is 7mm. Maybe compare that with yours?

Hey Crum.
Did they have to change/adjust this cables and lines when they changed the bars?
Thanks

One may have to be re-routed behind the leg. No biggie and it's obvious. Wasn't necessary on mine.

Thanks
I can't wait to get it done and the sprocket change, both both dealers around here are so backed up with work.