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Title: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: MotoZen on May 30, 2015, 10:36:58 AM What's up peeps? I'm considering converting to GP shift (1-up / 5 down) on my M821. Have any of you guys done this? I'm looking for general opinions and tips on making the conversion.
Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on September 30, 2015, 09:53:37 AM Sorry for the bump, but I don't see anything else on the subject.
I switched the setup so that it's reverse now, but it's not ideal. I can't get the shifter as low as I'd like without binding. I haven't seen an aftermarket reverse shifter for it. Anyone? Title: Re: Post by: Raux on September 30, 2015, 10:13:54 AM Get a new shifter arm
Title: Re: Post by: Raux on September 30, 2015, 10:14:54 AM The mount is likely the same as. Any other 4 valve motor minus panigale
Title: Re: Post by: NAKID on September 30, 2015, 10:37:40 AM The mount is likely the same as. Any other 4 valve motor minus panigale I'm not sure though. I tried to swap the shifter from my S2R1000 and it hit the rearset... Title: Re: Post by: Raux on September 30, 2015, 03:38:07 PM The gp shifter you can buy?
Title: Re: Post by: ducpainter on September 30, 2015, 03:43:38 PM I'm not sure though. I tried to swap the shifter from my S2R1000 and it hit the rearset... Too long?Title: Re: Post by: NAKID on September 30, 2015, 03:44:16 PM The gp shifter you can buy? Yes, I tried to swap the SSR reverse shifter I installed on my S2R1000 and it touches the where the rearset mounts to the frame. Are you referring to the shifter that has a bend in it to give it some clearance? Title: Re: Post by: Raux on October 01, 2015, 04:33:12 PM I see your issue now. Try a longer shift rod and see if you can get it to work that way
Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: ducpainter on October 01, 2015, 04:45:17 PM How about a shorter shifter?
http://motowheels.com/i-6923173-short-billet-reverse-shifter.html (http://motowheels.com/i-6923173-short-billet-reverse-shifter.html) Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 01, 2015, 05:11:17 PM How about a shorter shifter? http://motowheels.com/i-6923173-short-billet-reverse-shifter.html (http://motowheels.com/i-6923173-short-billet-reverse-shifter.html) Maybe, I'll have to check the length of my existing one when I get home. This might work. Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 01, 2015, 07:39:42 PM How about a shorter shifter? http://motowheels.com/i-6923173-short-billet-reverse-shifter.html (http://motowheels.com/i-6923173-short-billet-reverse-shifter.html) That's a no go. Length of that shifter is 4 1/4". Spline to closest point of contact is 4". I think the off set ones might work. $100 bucks though... Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: ducpainter on October 02, 2015, 02:18:01 AM The off set looked pretty extreme.
Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 02, 2015, 06:42:02 AM The off set looked pretty extreme. Based on the pictures I've seen, it looks like it might be just right... http://www.slingshotracing.net/catalog/ducati-offset-reverse-racing-shift-shifter-lever-748-749-848-916-p-196.html (http://www.slingshotracing.net/catalog/ducati-offset-reverse-racing-shift-shifter-lever-748-749-848-916-p-196.html) Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: ducpainter on October 02, 2015, 06:47:58 AM That's a no go. Length of that shifter is 4 1/4". Spline to closest point of contact is 4". I guess it depends on how everyone is measuring.I think the off set ones might work. $100 bucks though... Is it 4 1/4 oal or 4 1/4 center of spline to toe peg? Hope you find some thing. Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 02, 2015, 07:09:27 AM I guess it depends on how everyone is measuring. Is it 4 1/4 oal or 4 1/4 center of spline to toe peg? Hope you find some thing. I interpreted that as the total length of the shifter, then measured from the outside of the spline to the closest point it would connect. In contrast, the reverse shifter from my S2R measured just over 5" total length. Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: ducpainter on October 02, 2015, 07:12:32 AM Does SSR publish a length for the 'standard' shifter?
Either way, it does look like the offset will clear. If you like the foot position all is good except the price. Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 02, 2015, 07:20:04 AM Does SSR publish a length for the 'standard' shifter? Either way, it does look like the offset will clear. If you like the foot position all is good except the price. I haven't found one, but MotoWheels lists the offset shifter length as 5.25" so I imagine it's similar which coincides with what I measured as total length. What I need to do is save up for those CNC rearsets! Not only do they look nice and put your feet where they should go, but it looks as if they'd drop considerable weight vs the stock configuration. Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: kopfjäger on October 02, 2015, 07:38:53 AM That SSR is almost exactly like the original from Cycle Cat
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/75EE3339-8498-4190-B5FE-30690459509F.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/75EE3339-8498-4190-B5FE-30690459509F.jpg.html) Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 02, 2015, 08:02:41 AM That SSR is almost exactly like the original from Cycle Cat (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/75EE3339-8498-4190-B5FE-30690459509F.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/75EE3339-8498-4190-B5FE-30690459509F.jpg.html) SSR is absolutely a Chinese made knock off. But for some reason, every one that I have seen in my searches seem to be made by them. Since Cycle Cat is no more, it seems like SSR has taken over and that's all you can find... Title: Re: Post by: Raux on October 02, 2015, 02:44:59 PM I will tout Style & Performance everytime. Solid construction. Made in italy.
Title: Re: Anybody done a GP shift on an 821? Post by: NAKID on October 20, 2015, 10:50:23 AM So I ordered the offset shifter from Monster parts. Offset is ~1" which is great and clears the 821's massive rearsets. However, overall length is 5" and puts the toe peg way too close to the foot peg.
The shifter I had on my S2R1000 is shorter (~4.25") but the lack of offset causes it to hit the rearset. Here is a picture of the stock setup arranged in the reverse pattern. This is as low as I can get the toe peg without binding. (http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p513/NAKID1/7CF2D6CA-50F5-443A-8528-1F7DC410B600_zpsv3bqqrp9.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/NAKID1/media/7CF2D6CA-50F5-443A-8528-1F7DC410B600_zpsv3bqqrp9.jpg.html) Here is the non offset shifter. (http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p513/NAKID1/0EFD3B0C-5721-4CD6-841E-39CA17FF398A_zps5n1fljrk.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/NAKID1/media/0EFD3B0C-5721-4CD6-841E-39CA17FF398A_zps5n1fljrk.jpg.html) (http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p513/NAKID1/D6534029-D4AA-4467-92CF-5BCA91A7B56F_zpswmmkvwzi.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/NAKID1/media/D6534029-D4AA-4467-92CF-5BCA91A7B56F_zpswmmkvwzi.jpg.html) Here is the offset shifter. (http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p513/NAKID1/3B94A6BE-ABCA-4288-9BB4-0D90A8076445_zpscwx8uw0r.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/NAKID1/media/3B94A6BE-ABCA-4288-9BB4-0D90A8076445_zpscwx8uw0r.jpg.html) (http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p513/NAKID1/BBCBAC9E-FEA6-474C-9749-1B5E2760348C_zpsuwmvkjpd.jpg) (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/NAKID1/media/BBCBAC9E-FEA6-474C-9749-1B5E2760348C_zpsuwmvkjpd.jpg.html) The ideal length for an offset shifter would be ~3.5" and IMO there should not be a downward offset, at least not to the degree of the offset shifter. But, I'm not sure anyone even makes one yet. I certainly haven't been able to find one. If I had welding skills, another option would be to chop 3/4" out of the non offset and weld it back together. |