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Anyone know if power commander makes a quick shifter that will work with an '06 S2R 800 w/ a PCIII? I called power commander and was told that they are phasing out the PCIII and that there is no quick shifter specific to my bike but I think they are wrong.  I've always wanted a quick shifter  [evil]

Try Yoyodyne for stand alone speed shifters.

By "stand alone" you mean it doesn't plug into the PCIII ?

what makes you think they're wrong?

Ducati has one for your bike (as I'm sure others do as well), but I don't know if/how it works if there's a PCIII.

Well, just got off the phone with PC.  So since they don't have a kit for my specific bike I could either use the linear sensor which I wouldn't want b/c it would be bulky and ugly or I could use the shift rod sensor which is much cleaner looking.  The problem is that they don't have a shift rod sensor kit for my specific bike I would have to figure everything out myself, like this guy: http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/82658-dynojet-quick-shifter-waspmobile-excellent.html (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/82658-dynojet-quick-shifter-waspmobile-excellent.html)

So just a matter of finding a shorter shift rod...

Iirc, Yoyodyne had shifters available that used sensor tech that worked off the shifter lever hardware. Worth at least taking a look.

http://www.translogicusa.com/quickshifters.php (http://www.translogicusa.com/quickshifters.php)

Went to they Yoyo website and couldn't find any quick shifters.  Translogic is AWESOME but out of my budget.

http://www.yoyodyneti.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=2881 (http://www.yoyodyneti.com/Category.aspx?CategoryID=2881)

I measure the shift rod sensor to be around 46 Mm.

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/oldndumb/quickshifter%20dim.jpg)

PowerCommander has a selection of rods. The rods can be shortened and/or combined as needed. This was the route I had to take because I have aftermarket rear sets which meant that the kit they specify for my bike would not fit.

http://powercommander.com/powercommander/Products/ShiftRodKits/powercommander_shiftrod_kits.aspx (http://powercommander.com/powercommander/Products/ShiftRodKits/powercommander_shiftrod_kits.aspx)

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Why not learn to blip shift it the old fashioned way and save a few hundred bucks ?

Who sez I don't already know how to do clutchless upshifts? Been doing it for a loong time. In fact I still do it when the mood strikes me and the revs are below 5000.

Now my turn for a question. Have you ridden a bike with a quickshifter? If not, you might be in for a surprise. I wouldn't call it amazing but it makes for a highly significant improvement in acceleration. The downside is that you could exceed your grin limit.  ;D

Just go with a GP shifter.

Sorry, no comparison.

Try one and let me know what you think.  :)

Oldndumb, assuming the sensor in your post is the same as the sensor in this link http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/82658-dynojet-quick-shifter-waspmobile-excellent.html? (http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/82658-dynojet-quick-shifter-waspmobile-excellent.html?)  It is the pressure style sensor?  I'm assuming I would need the push type if my setup is OEM?  

Would this work?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dynojet-Pressure-Shift-Sensor-Push-Type-Quick-Shifter-4-102-4-102-/111715196255?hash=item1a02be9d5f&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dynojet-Pressure-Shift-Sensor-Push-Type-Quick-Shifter-4-102-4-102-/111715196255?hash=item1a02be9d5f&vxp=mtr)

Also I actually learned how to speed shift without a clutch a while ago and its awesome but I think this quickshifter would be even more fun

Dynojet sensors are universal. You just need to plug them into a PCIII and turn on the function with the provided software, and get a shift rod that works (or have one made if you're ambitious). Push or pull just depends on your linkage. If the shift rod is under compression, or pushing, when you upshift then you need a push-type...and vice versa.

Quick shifters are way better than standard clutchless upshifts. They're kind of weird and not very smooth though if you aren't riding hard. I think they're a waste of money for the street, but to each their own.

I have a used 'PULL' unit if anyone is interested.  PM me here...

Not understanding what you mean by universal? True, DynoJet does refer to them as being universal but you must specify push or pull when ordering.

The procedure of setting them up in the PC involves kill time, RPM to activate at, and type (push or pull). It does not allow a push to function as a pull nor vice versa. Therefore, important to select the correct type when ordering.

As for not being very smooth if not riding hard, I guess that is subjective. I set mine to activate at 5K and it is smooth. Shifting above 5K becomes seamless.

That's why I explained how you determine push or pull. Other than that they're universal.

Sorry for my misunderstanding your post. My post was unnecessary as you had it right to begin with.  :)

I've got a dynojet quick shifter on my S4RS and it is great fun. I havnt had any problems out of the unit since installation two years ago.

Oldndumb, is the unit actually adjustable??  Some people say its a lot of fun but I have heard that some people don't like it.  Hm, what to do. ???  Seems like a used one would be a good bang for the buck and then if I don't like it I could sell it or something.  Also where does it plug into??  Seems like my PCIII doesn't have anywhere for the unit to plug into.  If this involves me having to get an additional module fuel/ignition then I don't think I will go for it.

I have no experience with a PCIII but as far as I can tell from reading about it, the wires would go into the expansion port.
 
The adjustments are the minimum RPM for activation and the duration. In my case the factory preset for duration was fine. I raised the min RPM to 5000 because I don't want it to be enabled at low RPMs.

I had questions and concerns and called them before I bought mine. Once installed I called again for follow up questions. In both cases they were very helpful.

http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/contact/powercommander_contact_us.aspx (http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/contact/powercommander_contact_us.aspx)

As for some people not liking them, no surprise. None of us would agree 100 percent on every bit of bike equipment. But those that don't like them need to be aware that more and more new models are coming with them as standard equipment. Those std equipment ones are also including down shifts.  [evil]

Edit: Further reading on the interweb, I learned that it takes a PCIII USB to enable a PowerCommander quickshifter. The earlier PCIIIs do not have that capability. You must also have a CD which comes with the PCIII USB quickshifter. If buying used, you must be certain that you will also receive the CD, or have access to one, or a copy.

Just spoke w/ PC.  The sensor just plugs into the expansion port.  Luckily I will not need any additional fuel/ignition module.  Interesting that you say some bikes come with quick shifters OEM.  Which bikes?   You know off the top of your head??  I heard that the idea to have this technology OEM never really took off.

Also one last question, so if I shorten my OEM shift link rod by 46mm, then I should be set right?

Pretty much every sportbike comes with them now, and has for quite a while. My 2011 RSV4 has a factory quickshifter that is butter smooth.  [thumbsup]

Only a few come with auto-blip downshifts.  [drool]

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