Getting my bike in soon and full termi exhaust is waiting to go on.
My only concern (keep in mind the bike is not in front of me yet) are with the head nuts to the header pipes. I've seen on other forums dudes attacking box wrenches and sockets with grinders to get access to those nuts on other ducs.
Does anyone know how accessible these 6 nuts are on the M1200? Can I get to them with a regular socket and torque wrench? If not do you have any tips / tricks?
THANKS!!!
Are you also going to perform the upmap procedure?
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on August 21, 2015, 01:24:29 PM
Are you also going to perform the upmap procedure?
no, I'll go to the dealer for that. I wish I didn't have to...
how much is he charging you for labour to install?
we charge 4 hours or $180
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on August 21, 2015, 02:01:36 PM
how much is he charging you for labour to install?
we charge 4 hours or $180
Dealer labor rates in the US are typically much higher Carlos.
Closer to $100/hr if not higher.
That's the point. I didn't even bother with a quote for install because I am doing the install myself. Just wondering about those exhaust nuts...
Thanks!
Quote from: ducpainter on August 21, 2015, 02:09:21 PM
Dealer labor rates in the US are typically much higher Carlos.
Closer to $100/hr if not higher.
people here complaint about the 45/hr rate we charge . . .
I used a 3/8" socket-ratchet . . . better if they're warm . . .
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on August 21, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
people here complaint about the 45/hr rate we charge . . .
I used a 3/8" socket-ratchet . . . better if they're warm . . .
Yeah, getting mine serviced right now, $100 an hour. That's in OC Ca. I've seen higher, up to about $115/hr.
There is access for either a socket or box end wrench. No special tool or modification necessary.
As for the map, at least one of our forum sponsors offers that service.
oldnumb, the map comes via a "key" that must be hooked to the DDS2.0, to upload the new maps that modify how the RBW/ABS/DTS react and save the OEM maps for "future" downgrading . . .
if nickbee is interested, he can pm and I'll give him a way to do it at home . . .
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on August 21, 2015, 06:33:19 PM
oldnumb, the map comes via a "key" that must be hooked to the DDS2.0, to upload the new maps that modify how the RBW/ABS/DTS react and save the OEM maps for "future" downgrading . . .
if nickbee is interested, he can pm and I'll give him a way to do it at home . . .
Thanks for the info. Can't promise to remember it, but I did learn something today. ;D
Thanks for all the replies guys.
So my main take away is all the header nuts are accessible with either a socket or box wrench.
This gives me the confidence to tackle this job.
The map I will most likely take to the dealer after the install.
Buy some ear plugs. The Termis on my M1200 are hellishly loud, but I love 'em. [beer]
Quote from: Stuka Pilot on August 22, 2015, 02:54:31 PM
Buy some ear plugs. The Termis on my M1200 are hellishly loud, but I love 'em. [beer]
I'm still contemplating on keeping the DB Killers in or not. I'm coming from an RC51 that had Sato slip ons. Can't wait to hear how this bike compares. The RC did have a loud whine from the gear driven cams which was amazing.
you could do one db killer on one off . . . sounds interesting without loosing the Ducati brrrt
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on August 23, 2015, 12:13:36 PM
you could do one db killer on one off . . . sounds interesting without loosing the Ducati brrrt
I had not thought of this, but it may be the perfect compromise. Both DB killers back in and it sound stock, so I will certainly try this.
I got the "full" exhaust in today. Interesting enough it's full minus the rear header. That stays original. At least that's one header I don't need to worry about swapping out.
Still, that is the full system:
"Produced by Termignoni with steel manifolds and carbon fiber silencers. The silencers are assembled with machined billet end caps which showcase their meticulous design. Lighter and more efficient than the OE exhaust, the kit includes dedicated engine mapping to help provide a 5% increase in performance."
(https://ndcs.ducati.com/EPCResources/GRAPHICS/immagini_accessori/CC/CCCCD0EF438CA0A969FD06B8B07B5E8B.th65.png)
Sorry about the size . . .
So for anyone stumbling on this thread...
Full term install was cake! Only the front header comes off the engine and all 3 nuts are easy to get at with a socket and ratchet / torque wrench. The only semi tricky bit was removing the dams flapper servo. Look in your manual on how to drop the battery as the servo is in the same compartment. Be sure to stick an allen wrench in the side hole to support the battery before you flip the bottom access panel down.
I've started with the baffles out and the sound is amazing. I go to the dealer this Saturday to get the ECU flashed.
(http://www.nickbee.com/ducati/ducSunflowers.jpg)
Quote from: nickbee on September 02, 2015, 07:17:10 AM
So for anyone stumbling on this thread...
Full term install was cake! Only the front header comes off the engine and all 3 nuts are easy to get at with a socket and ratchet / torque wrench. The only semi tricky bit was removing the dams flapper servo. Look in your manual on how to drop the battery as the servo is in the same compartment. Be sure to stick an allen wrench in the side hole to support the battery before you flip the bottom access panel down.
I've started with the baffles out and the sound is amazing. I go to the dealer this Saturday to get the ECU flashed.
(http://www.nickbee.com/ducati/ducSunflowers.jpg)
Looks great . .. did you do both baffles out or did you try one on/one off?
They are a big bore pipe. How big?
I've started with both baffles out and it's impressive! I might try both in soon just to see the difference. Since the baffles are held in with one screw it makes it very easy.
The pipes are noticeably wider than stock, but I did not measure. I'm sure someone here would know the different dimensions.
They look a serious diameter. [evil]
2mm+ from stock