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Title: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 29, 2015, 05:58:10 PM
I'm looking at adding a super bike to the garage and quite frankly I love them all! I would like one not only to ride but to also admire in what will start to be my collection. The only one I have ridden out of the above is the 900sl and as good ones of each round here are generally advertised for similar money depending on model variant and k's and as mentioned I love them all I am asking the greater community who have owned or ridden most which would make a better buy and why?

Cheers in advance and I look forward to the discussion.

Scoob.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: koko64 on August 29, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
1098!  ;D

For the price, seriously.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Speeddog on August 29, 2015, 06:36:12 PM
999 are a PITA to service, and I don't enjoy their styling as much.

998 would be a little better, but it's still the first generation Testastretta, so PITA.

IMO, 996 is the best.

900SL is a good ride, simple and to the point.



Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: koko64 on August 29, 2015, 06:38:51 PM
Or economy version, 900SS in SL trim with a hot 944 motor! I'll help! :D


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 29, 2015, 07:34:53 PM
1098!  ;D

For the price, seriously.

Did you see a 1098 in the title?  [roll] It's not there for a reason......I don't personally like them. Don't get me wrong I like the way they look but to ride........not my cup of tea!  [thumbsup]

999 are a PITA to service, and I don't enjoy their styling as much.

998 would be a little better, but it's still the first generation Testastretta, so PITA.

IMO, 996 is the best.

900SL is a good ride, simple and to the point.

Thanks Speeddog that is precisely half of my query. I saw a nice black 996 at the fx superbikes race the other week and absolutely loved it. But would like to own at least one red duc!


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: kopfjäger on August 29, 2015, 08:59:21 PM
This one  [evil]

https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5179177593.html


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: ducatiz on August 29, 2015, 09:13:13 PM
Any 900ss carb.  You can "convert" it to sl trim except for the 2 pc wheels.  There are better wheels on the market.

Motor tops out at about 100hp with headwork and lots of mods.  But it is the most fun for the money


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 29, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
This one  [evil]

https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5179177593.html

I spent the morning looking at that....... [drool] Transport would be a killer and not sure I'd be able to register it! Ung coulda stashed it in his carry on!  [laugh]

Any 900ss carb.  You can "convert" it to sl trim except for the 2 pc wheels.  There are better wheels on the market.

Motor tops out at about 100hp with headwork and lots of mods.  But it is the most fun for the money

As a standard full fairing 900 in cracking nick with good service history is about half of all the above it would make a great buy. Thinking of keeping this one relatively standard so bling factor isn't all that important. It will also be the bike people will ride if they come to visit from afar!


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: koko64 on August 29, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Fair enough.
A stock carbed 900 will feel slow without a few choice mods. I think hi comp pistons, Ignitech, Exactfit coils, jet kit, modified airbox and a light flywheel should do it.
I really miss my 900SL, glad a mate bought it so I get to ride it now and then. It runs strong with some mods, but if its just to cruise around on then I guess it doesnt matter.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: MendoDave on August 29, 2015, 10:44:50 PM
This one  [evil]

https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5179177593.html (https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5179177593.html)

That is real sweet.

The 900 is simple. I always did like the looks of the 916 though.

(http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachments/superbikes/110438d1336806311-1995-ducati-916-s1-duc11.jpg)


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: koko64 on August 29, 2015, 10:51:48 PM
Beautiful.
I test rode a 916SP back in the day. Knee down by accident, it was that good.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 29, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
yep we were just talking about how we would like that model in the stable. just beautiful.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: MendoDave on August 29, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
The 916/748 were some of the first Ducks I got to be familiar with. Great looks. Classy.

(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery/Ducati%20748s%2000%20%206.jpg)


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 29, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
This is what one of that caliber goes for here.

http://www.bikesales.com.au/dealer/OAG-AD-1136895/1996-Ducati-916 (http://www.bikesales.com.au/dealer/OAG-AD-1136895/1996-Ducati-916)

When you can get a 996 with half the miles for this.....

http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-3356974/2000-Ducati-996 (http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-3356974/2000-Ducati-996)


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: MendoDave on August 29, 2015, 11:25:17 PM
I can hardly tell them apart 916/996/998 so the 996 or 998 would be better.
Probably the 999 is going to be your best deal though. Those can be had for well under 10K here, but the cyclops lights...On the other hand you don't see them when you're riding it.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 29, 2015, 11:44:45 PM
I can hardly tell them apart 916/996/998 so the 996 or 998 would be better.
Probably the 999 is going to be your best deal though. Those can be had for well under 10K here, but the cyclops lights...On the other hand you don't see them when you're riding it.

Thats the thing I love the 999 also and they are the best value. I read somewhere to go for an 05 or newer which I'm sure Speeddog will have an informed opinion why! Electrics from memory. I do like this......

http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-3055406/2005-Ducati-999 (http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-3055406/2005-Ducati-999)


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: MendoDave on August 29, 2015, 11:50:09 PM
Yea I think I heard that speeddog got a 999. But maybe im mistaken about that.  ;D

And i think I am. It was Bacon Junkie ranting on about it.


Title: Re:
Post by: Raux on August 30, 2015, 05:58:04 AM
Do you have an 888 or 851 already?


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: MendoDave on August 30, 2015, 06:40:28 AM
The owner of that 900 says its going to be at the Kentucky Kick down in september.

http://www.kentuckykickdown.com/about.html (http://www.kentuckykickdown.com/about.html)


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: MadDuck on August 30, 2015, 05:04:00 PM
999 are a PITA to service, and I don't enjoy their styling as much.

998 would be a little better, but it's still the first generation Testastretta, so PITA.

IMO, 996 is the best.

900SL is a good ride, simple and to the point.



Just curious. You think the 996 engine is easier to work on than the 999? 


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Speeddog on August 30, 2015, 08:10:07 PM
Just curious. You think the 996 engine is easier to work on than the 999? 

Absolutely.

You have to pull the radiator to get the front rocker cover off.
The opener rockers won't pivot all the way up, so they make it a hassle to get shims on and off.
If you need to replace a rocker on the vertical, pulling the head sideplates is a massive event.
Oil leaks out when you remove the vertical valve cover, it's pooled up behind it.
Prone to leaking oil into the sparkplug well.
Cleaning all of the mating surfaces and seals and cam-bore caps is a chore.
If it leaks oil after it's buttoned back up, it's a ton of work to solve it.
The airbox is just big enough to foul easy removal of both valve covers, if they had made it 1/4" smaller in two small areas, it'd be no issue at all.

Fundamentally, it was the beginning of changes that made it easier to assemble at the factory, with no concern for impact on service.


Title: Re:
Post by: Scoober1103 on August 31, 2015, 02:15:11 AM
Do you have an 888 or 851 already?

Hey mate ah no and not in my price range either at the moment. Would dearly love one of both too. The list is growing  ;)


Title: Re:
Post by: Raux on August 31, 2015, 03:03:21 AM
Search in europe and see import costs you night be surprised. I was offered a 851 for 5000 euro.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Stabel1 on September 02, 2015, 09:06:58 AM
Hey.
Though I don´t have a 900 I would think it´s probably a lot like the air cooled 1000cc engine, which is in my opinion, probably the most rideable around town and country roads.
The 916, and especially the SP is a Diva, and not the bike just to take on a quick ride...and pretty uncomfortable but still one of the most beautiful. 996 and 998 differ mainly only concerning the engine, though the 998 Engine is the most fun to ride.
Can´t say anything about the 999. I know you didn´t include the 1098/1198 but seating is a little more relaxed and the handling is great but power is almost to much to be used in every day use (which also can be fun).
Reliability was and is good with all of em, costs of maintenance are slightly higher with the water cooled engines. R, SP and SPS cost more since certain parts used are different from the standard models.
Wish you luck with your little collection, i had the same idea a few years back and love it.

Klaus


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: El Matador on September 07, 2015, 10:36:35 AM
996 all. The. Way.

Few things I regret more than selling mine. They'd worked out ALL the kinks by that model and it's just such a beautiful dream of a ride. None of the bikes you listed are going to be on the forefront of the batshit fast pack, but the 996 has plenty to keep you scared if you get overeager on your right wrist.

Also, most beautiful bike Ducati ever made. Hands down.


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Monsterlover on September 07, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
This one  [evil]

https://louisville.craigslist.org/mcy/5179177593.html

All day long


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: koko64 on September 10, 2015, 06:13:50 PM
Any news on this? Found a cheap, clapped out 900ss to hop up? [popcorn]


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: The Architect on September 12, 2015, 07:08:03 AM
I've had the 748, 916 and the 996 motors.

996 should be you're only choice!

Can't tell you about the 998 or 999.  I wasn't willing to deal with the maintenance.   


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: lawbreaker on September 22, 2015, 07:04:11 PM
+1 on a 996

I love my 996 SPS... dont think I could ever get rid of her


Title: Re: 900sl/916/996/998/999 Which one?
Post by: Nekkid Tim on October 12, 2015, 08:38:30 AM
I've had 851, 916, and 999 Superbikes.  620 Sport, 750SS (first gen), 750SS (second gen), 800SS, 1000SS, and 998 Testatretta (in my S4Rs).  A friend has a 996SPS which I've ridden.

For my build (5'8"; 30-inch inseam, 32-inch sleeve) the second generation Supersports are actually even more uncomfortable on the street than the first 916/748/996/998 family.   The latter are the most beautiful motorcycles made in the modern era, imho, but I would never have one for the street; they are terrible around town and on the highway.

I love *all* the air-cooled engines; my track bike is a highly modified DS1000SS, and I am building a streetable version now.  Super light, super dependable, sound GREAT, inexpensive, and easily modifiable.  My track bike makes 98.75 rwhp and the streetbiek will have a softer, big bore motor.

If I were only going to look at it (while drooling) most of the time and ride it very infrequently and could justify it, I'd have a 998R or a 748RS.   Next step down on the expense list would be any monoposto 916/748/996/998 in unmolested condition and low miles.   But I've found that only the 998 and 996SPS engines are really tractable in actual everyday stop and go riding.

If you are going to ride the bike a lot, the 749/999 was by far the most comfortable of the Superbikes I've owned, although the original 851/888 family run a close second.   None of them are comfortable enough for me to want one for the street.  For extensive street riding, I say choose the engine you like and get it in a Monster, 1000GT, or Streetfighter chassis, and enjoy the ride.

Just my humble opinion; everyone's needs differ.


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