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I want one

Apparently different frame as well.

Has Ducati ever done a R Monster version before?

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/new-ducati-monster-1200-r/28133.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/new-ducati-monster-1200-r/28133.html)

Likely they just "found" the missing 15hp that exists on the Diavel 1200 motor but not on the M1200S engine, added some "farkles" and possibly a # plate to the top triple.

Oh, and a few extra #'s onto the pricetag.

Regardless of my cynicism, I'm curious to see what this is about.  The 1200 is growing on me...

WHAAAAAAT Stew, Ducati would never never do thaaaat  ;D

I found the 1200S to be pretty boring when I test rode it, hopefully the R brings the fun back. Scrambler was a more engaging motorcycle IMO. Are you just enjoying the bike more?

I'll be very surprised if this turns out to be worthy of the R label.

Besides what Stew mentioned, maybe minor trail change and lower bars.

The engine/Corse departments must have had a fight with the marketing department over this - and lost  [bang]


What Ducati needs is a ballbuster in the StreetFighter segment - to show customers who's boss when it comes to performance. Not a best seller, I know, but a signal  8)

More than rumors, tells the story of a new SF with superquadro powerplant  [evil]

if they did way with passenger pegs . .  and stew, how could you? say Ducati would add farkles and price tag? THIS IS unthinkablebut true, almost

Yes the S4R and then the S4RS

No, the S2R and S4R were not R bikes in the sense I mean. The S4Rs was probably the closest.

I'm talking the mildly mental bikes like the 1098R and 749R etc that had a variety of race type stuff (and big price tag) from the factory. 

I would rather see this than a Monster with more bling and a couple of more horses. I still think that a Monster should be air-cooled so what the hell do I know.

Maybe they shed some of the extra weight. The newer monsters were a significantly bloated to what they needed to be.

Dry weight 182kg vs the prior model's 168kg.

They are probably feeling the heat from the 1290 superduke and feel they need to respond accordingly to the challenge.

Hopefully this doesn't end up turning the monster design philosopy into a horsepower game between manufacturers. Then the old monster "Simple is better" adage will be truly gone forever. We're nearly there already!

 Agreed ^

 It is bold of Ducati calling the bike an 'R' model vs just an updated 'S' model.

and BMW S1000RR naked derivate . . .

My comment about the 1200 growing on me was about its aesthetics.  I don't own one...

I dont get all the negativity for the new Monster. I test rode the 1200S and was pretty impressed. The powerband was pretty smooth and had some serious torque, the handling was good, the brakes were excellent and the seat was probably the best Monster stock seat I've ever sat on. I also like the looks of it specifically the tank, the headlight and how they cleaned up the tail. My only gripe... it's not an aircooled bike. There's something about the aircooled Ducati's that I love the sound and no ugly radiator and liquid cooling bits hanging up front. I get why they had to go aircooled at this point and I'm slowly growing accustomed to it. (I think).  I also havent heard a 1200S with Termis on it. That could sound amazing I dont know. Let's see how this R pans out. I am curious. The 821 did not impress me nearly as much.

give it the 1200 DVT engine, improve the breathing / exhaust to give it a few extra ponies, engine modes (wuss/not sure/yee-haw), sort out the footpegs, tidy up the LH side aesthetics, drop some lard (10-15kg), lower the gearing,and don't charge a bl**dy fortune for it....

I'd buy one :)

 More farkles, 160hp, pope hat like my 1100S,  might be upgrading to this bike!

And new rearsets one of my bigger issues

Power delivery sounds great for the M1200R but I guess I was expecting a distinct styling queues to differenciate the M1200R from the other Monsters. Maybe it just comes down to livery or they're following Porsche's way of distinguishing the models "if you know Porsche, you know the difference." I'll still keep my S4R somehow nothing other than the old M900 or the M1100S gets me to even think about selling or adding another model to the stable.

They fixed everything I did not care for on the 1200 and 1200S.

Msgd my dealer to put me on the list and will do paperwork on Saturday.  [wine]

Agreed.  The passenger pegs/exhaust hanger on the first generation Monster 1200/1200S are just awful.

I wouldn't buy the 1200/1200S but this looks decent and has some nice features.  Count me in as interested.  Might make a nice stablemate to my Multistrada 1200 S.  :D

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/september/new-ducati-monster-1200r-revealed/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/2015/september/new-ducati-monster-1200r-revealed/)

"Ducati bosses were also at great pains to explain this was going to be the pinnacle of performance for the Monster range and any rumours of a naked Panigale had no foundation in truth and no such bike is being planned. Various Ducati department heads officially confirmed no such bike is being worked on currently."


What?!  There were rumors of a naked Panigale??  [evil]

Ducati is making a motard?

I was actually looking at bikes other than Ducati since I was simply not enthused at the Monster/SF line-up. This might have just changed.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2016-ducati-monster-1200-r-mega-gallery/#more-92836 (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2016-ducati-monster-1200-r-mega-gallery/#more-92836)

THEY ARE?!  :o  [laugh]

I'm curious to see if they do any better with the EURO4 tuning for the motor than they've done with the 2015 MTS (it's really bad).

OK, next HM will have a larger engine . . . that's all for now

Hopefully all the positive changes will trickle down to the 1200 s, 1200 and 821 to make them more appealing...but seriously contemplating a used  Streetfighter S now.

Looks pregnant dogin'

I want one!

looks like they took my wish-list, & ticked all the boxes :)

other than a tail-tidy, looks good to go, down-side is its likely to be expensive :(

Saw 20k euro on a post...not sure if thats official... I was thinking it would be SF 1098s pricing

If this is more than 18K USD it will not sell well in the US. There's just too much great competition in the naked market right now. The Tuono, Super Duke, and BMW R being prime examples. If you ask me this is what the S should have been and the 1200 should have been the current S. It looks more like Ducati realized the quickly shifting performance target that this sector has and is trying to catch up. But in typical Ducati fashion they're trying to market their mistake as a winner instread of dropping the base 1200 and lowering the cost of the S.

All of my local Ducati dealers have left over stock of 1200 S models. I'm glad I skipped that GEN.

Yeah - pricing it over the SD R would be terribad for the sales

Want want want  [evil]

I'm wondering how much our local shop will deal on the '16 M1200R they have lying around...   [evil]

Although, the '17 in black is super hot.  [drool]

I have a 16 M1200R with 6000 miles on it that I will be selling myself to make room for a SS939S I have on order. Last month, when I told the sales manager that I was not going to trade it in, he advised me to ask for $16,200.

Hey OND Love to hear how you find the new SS. When is it due. I'm thinking of changing my ST1050 for one. I believe you used to have an ST.

I'd rather get a 1200S. Shorter wheelbase, same trick parts, I think the shock is larger too to kick the bike up. A tad less horsepower but at least it comes with cornering abs and a quickshifter that goes in both directions. (edit : 2017 Version)

I was looking at getting the 1200R (the 796 is paid off) but 20K is ALOT. I'm contemplating the 959 (Artic white) Panigale. I know the riding position is totally aggressive and this will be my first fully faired bike. The new monsters look so fat with all of the water cooled nonsense up front. IMHO. ;D