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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Tpabayflyer on November 24, 2015, 04:17:03 AM

Title: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: Tpabayflyer on November 24, 2015, 04:17:03 AM
Here's my plan, 100mm Pistal pistons and I Would like to run as much Compression as possible on 93 octane gas in the Florida heat. Can I get by with 11.5-1? Is 12-1 pushing it? Here is my plan:
2004 MS DS1000 9K miles
JPrecision CNC ported heads oversize valves
Stock cams
termi cans, baffles removed with cat delete and PC 111 for now

I am new to Ducati and would like to get some more power......  100HP+ If possible..... I can get my cylinders bored and plated and I am leaning towards getting a PC V with auto tune as I have an O2 port downstream of both pipes.........  What quench distance do you use as this is critical for detonation resistance? Are these Pistal pistons really $800 for a pair? If that's the going rate I guess I have to pay but I understand the high price of custom parts.......    I am also not planning on going into the engine any further than the heads/cylinder and I was wondering how the balance of the reciprocating assembly turns out? How much do the 100mm pistons/pins weigh compared to the stockers? Hopefully the same?

I have no interest in re-inventing the wheel here and I am looking for a proven combination of parts to relibly increase my power and still retain decent driveability with the stock cams.....  Thanks in advance....   TBF
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: Dirty Duc on November 24, 2015, 06:48:28 AM
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/heads/heads.html (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/heads/heads.html)
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29136.15 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29136.15)
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: Tpabayflyer on November 24, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
Thanks.....  Some good info there.......     Let's see those 1123 motors and builds! How much Compression with 93 octane can this combo tolerate with the stock cams?
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: koko64 on November 25, 2015, 10:54:55 PM
Travman built up a ported, 1123 big bore, hi comp 1000DS with stock cams. It made about 95-98hp iirc and a stonking 82 ft/lbs of torque from low revs. Absolute torque beast.
Worth a search to find it. He would have got 100+ hp with DP cams but went for a grunt style motor. Search for 1123 and enter Travmans name as author. Edit: I went back and reread the whole thread. Great stuff.

I'll be watching your build. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: koko64 on November 26, 2015, 01:37:02 PM
You could start a build thread in the Mods and Access section. Subscribed. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: Tpabayflyer on November 26, 2015, 04:56:12 PM
Yes, I did read Travmans thread.....    Good info.......    I am also looking for an engine with massive torque and not interested in every last HP, especially at the top of the rpm band......
I am strictly street but I do like to haul ass and the DS1000 does it very well! I just want to improve on a good thing with some sensible mods and make more power. If I increase to C/R to 11.5-1/12-1 how much snappier will the exhaust note get? It already sounds incredible now no no cat and the termi's without baffles.......  I just love the deep, big V-8 hot rod sound! Are the 100mm Pistal pistons the same weight as stockers? Anybody know how many grams the pistons/pins weigh for comparison? I know somebody has done this?  thanks... TBF

Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: Speeddog on November 26, 2015, 08:18:17 PM
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/webike-rb/item/21649536/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en (http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/webike-rb/item/21649536/?s-id=borderless_recommend_item_en)
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: CannedIce on December 01, 2015, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: Dirty Duc on November 24, 2015, 06:48:28 AM
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/heads/heads.html (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/heads/heads.html)
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29136.15 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29136.15)

That is an old link for Ca-Cycleworks. We no longer facilitate head work. Sorry about that guys!
Title: Re: 2004 DS1000 1123 build advice needed......
Post by: Dirty Duc on December 01, 2015, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: CannedIce on December 01, 2015, 03:32:39 PM
That is an old link for Ca-Cycleworks. We no longer facilitate head work. Sorry about that guys!
I mainly posted it for the rest of the good info on that page.

Is MBP still doing them in Canada?