...interested in what you drive now.. and what you plan to drive when it's time for new wheels.
My current drive is a 2.7 litre V6 turbo diesel Ford Territory... it's nice in a big, floppy, barge kinda way...
(http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urlpicture&blobheader=image%2Fjpeg&blobheadername1=Cache-Control&blobheadername2=Content-Disposition&blobheadername3=Content-Length&blobheadervalue1=max-age%3D1000&blobheadervalue2=inline%3B+filename%3D1248905161270.jpeg&blobheadervalue3=75457&blobkey=id&blobtable=DFYImage&blobwhere=1248905161270&ssbinary=true)
I'm pretty sure.... that my next car will be this..
(http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2016-skoda-superb-combi-2.jpg)
(http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2016-skoda-superb-combi-1.jpg)
very nice Skoda family hauler . . . diesel?
Current drive is this 2007 Suzuki Swift ZC21S
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7765909680_a4eb682a7a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/cQfjou)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/645/21872596446_0ebf4f6c20.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/cQfjou)
Gunning for this as a next vehicle
(http://www.newcarsrelease2015.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/2016-Nissan-Qashqai-Exterior.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zjNLTQ)
Another VW Passat to replace the 2014 (that now has 80,000 miles on the clock), same color same package, yup boring. ;D
335i to the The panamera jr. If they decide to put it into production.
Quote from: red baron on December 08, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
Another VW Passat to replace the 2014 (that now has 80,000 miles on the clock), same color same package, yup boring. ;D
diesel or V6 gas?
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on December 08, 2015, 09:00:47 AM
diesel or V6 gas?
Somehow I don't think he's going to be buying a diesel v-dub here anytime soon.
I can't tell you what my next car will be-I change my vehicles way too often as is.
Current DD: '13 Jeep Wrangler 2-door
Next: The rumored upcoming Ford Bronco, assuming it's available in 2-door form and isn't too posh and sissified (i.e. I want a modern '66-'77 Bronco). Otherwise probably another Wrangler, assuming FCA doesn't blow the redesign.
Build one ;)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/54DEF903-6607-4EBA-9E38-A5ADC4DA0C21.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/54DEF903-6607-4EBA-9E38-A5ADC4DA0C21.jpg.html)
Quote from: Speedbag on December 08, 2015, 10:31:27 AM
Current DD: '13 Jeep Wrangler 2-door
Next: The rumored upcoming Ford Bronco, assuming it's available in 2-door form and isn't too posh and sissified (i.e. I want a modern '66-'77 Bronco). Otherwise probably another Wrangler, assuming FCA doesn't blow the redesign.
That's been a rumor for like, ten years. I wouldn't hold my breathe on a new Bronco.
Icon makes some bad ass vehicles! [thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjäger on December 08, 2015, 10:37:49 AM
Build one ;)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/54DEF903-6607-4EBA-9E38-A5ADC4DA0C21.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/54DEF903-6607-4EBA-9E38-A5ADC4DA0C21.jpg.html)
Quote from: Satellite smithy on December 08, 2015, 10:52:29 AM
That's been a rumor for like, ten years. I wouldn't hold my breathe on a new Bronco.
Actually that was old rumors, there are new rumors now based on the Ranger built for other markets:
http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/news/ford-new-ranger-pickup-bronco-suv-u-s-article-1.2340670 (http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/news/ford-new-ranger-pickup-bronco-suv-u-s-article-1.2340670)
I'd
love to have an Icon Bronco, but my couch doesn't contain that much change....and I wouldn't have the heart to DD one in MN winter corrosion hell.
If they built a new Bronco that would definitely be a candidate to replace the Escape...in about 5 or 6 years. :P
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on December 08, 2015, 06:30:00 AM
very nice Skoda family hauler . . . diesel?
Nope (not that the current VAG diesel issues would stop me). I'm liking the 206kw/350nm 2 litre turbo petrol donk, DSG/AWD - the same power train found in VW Golf R.
Quote from: red baron on December 08, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
Another VW Passat to replace the 2014 (that now has 80,000 miles on the clock), same color same package, yup boring. ;D
I like the Passat too. I just like the styling and drive train options of it's Czech mate even more.
Do they sell Subaru Outbacks in Oz? I mean, they should based on name alone.
Anyway, my father just bought a 2015 and loves it. Good car, modern tech, has space for hauling, able to handle various conditions, not too flashy. I think my next car might be an Outback, assuming I don't go the pickup route.
A4 Avant Quatro is the present car, we plan on keeping it for a long long time.
I do like that SKoda.
If it get's out of concept the next gen RX looks really nice.
Quote from: 1.21GW on December 08, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Do they sell Subaru Outbacks in Oz? I mean, they should based on name alone.
Anyway, my father just bought a 2015 and loves it. Good car, modern tech, has space for hauling, able to handle various conditions, not too flashy. I think my next car might be an Outback, assuming I don't go the pickup route.
Yep they do. And also the Forester which is more outbacky than the Outback.
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on December 08, 2015, 06:30:00 AM
Gunning for this as a next vehicle
(http://www.newcarsrelease2015.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/2016-Nissan-Qashqai-Exterior.jpg)
That Datsun get's good press Cralso [thumbsup]
Quote from: 1.21GW on December 08, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Do they sell Subaru Outbacks in Oz? I mean, they should based on name alone.
Anyway, my father just bought a 2015 and loves it. Good car, modern tech, has space for hauling, able to handle various conditions, not too flashy. I think my next car might be an Outback, assuming I don't go the pickup route.
Mrs Ung has an utterly dependable 2.5 petrol Subaru Forester, which she loves. I think it's lame. The Outback 3.6 was on my shortlist..... didn't make the cut. Grunty sure enough, but seems a little too fond of a drink. Not too sure about a CVT either. Another Subaru on my shopping list was the Subaru Levorg 2.0GT...
(http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/7/63//_dsc6000.jpg)
(http://image.motortrend.ca/f/88988375/2015-Subaru-Levorg-rear-three-quarters.jpg)
..I could forgive it it's stupid name, but I can't get past it's awkward 'styling' :-\. And it only comes with that CVT. And it's probably a size smaller than I'm fond of.
The German's modern turbo fours seem to offer the best of both worlds (unless they're lying ;)) and I'm a fan of the dual clutch type auto box.
Mate of mine has the old boxy styled 2.5L turbo Forester. Seems practical enough. I hear they're thirsty though.
Can't say I'm a fan of the dual clutch box the way Ford executed it.
You can't manufacture million dollar technology for 32 cents.
My experience of Ford's dual clutch autobox was completely different. The most endearing part of driving my previous car (a diesel Ford Mondeo) was it's dual clutch gearbox. Loved it. On rare occasion it made some horrendous clunk-thud noises.... but in 240,000kms of hard driving it was utterly faultless.
DSG is fantastic in the VW Audi products. So good there is no reason to buy a manual. The small Ford, at least on this side of the pond, has no idea what it is doing. I hate CVTs.
I could have lived with the noise.
Quote from: ducpainter on December 09, 2015, 04:25:02 AM
I could have lived with the noise.
Really, the disconcerting racket events were pretty rare. And whilst a little alarming..... never amounted to..... anything of concern.
Quote from: howie on December 09, 2015, 04:24:32 AM
DSG is fantastic in the VW Audi products. So good there is no reason to buy a manual.
That's exactly how I felt about the Ford Mondeo 'DSG'. I'm really looking forward to VAG's new Skoda Superb (not available here until March/April).
Quote from: ungeheuer on December 09, 2015, 01:55:15 AM
The German's modern turbo fours seem to offer the best of both worlds (unless they're lying ;))
I
loooove the 2.0T in the ol' lady's '11 Tiguan. That engine is a great little overachiever.
My next car will be my old 1985 FJ60, but with 280,000 miles on the clock and the hellish cost of rebuilding the original 2F motor, the question occupying my mind these days is "What's your next engine?" Spend the $$$ and go diesel (and if so, which one?) or just put a Chevy 350 in there and be done with it?
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3381/4594624360_132bf1dfbe_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/811DKo)FJ60 (https://flic.kr/p/811DKo) by triangleforge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/7138702@N03/), on Flickr
Diesel, Cummins I6. :)
That would be so awesome.....
I've had no issues with my Focus, to the point where I will be looking at a Taurus SHO next time I'm in the market for a new to me vehicle.
Still stuck on my 27 year old Saab. I really don't have a clue what else I would get.
(http://static.flickr.com/91/250230654_89ece33b8e.jpg)
Quote from: duccarlos on December 09, 2015, 09:32:07 AM
I've had no issues with my Focus, to the point where I will be looking at a Taurus SHO next time I'm in the market for a new to me vehicle.
My ex is about to have a third tranny put into her '13 Focus. It's a POS CVT.
The reason we have our Durango now (besides the size upgrade) is because of the (un)reliability issues with the Chrysler CVT in her '13 Jeep Patriot.
That thing didn't really do anything well. It was a gas hog. It got worse mileage than the bigger Durango we have now. The Patriot had the 2.4 I4, the Durango a 3.6 V6.
Quote from: NAKID on December 09, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
My ex is about to have a third tranny put into her '13 Focus. It's a POS CVT.
The reason we have our Durango now (besides the size upgrade) is because of the (un)reliability issues with the Chrysler CVT in her '13 Jeep Patriot.
That thing didn't really do anything well. It was a gas hog. It got worse mileage than the bigger Durango we have now. The Patriot had the 2.4 I4, the Durango a 3.6 V6.
I have no issues with tranny since it's a manual ;D
Quote from: duccarlos on December 09, 2015, 12:10:53 PM
I have no issues with tranny since it's a manual ;D
She's never driven a manual transmission.
Quote from: NAKID on December 09, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
The reason we have our Durango now (besides the size upgrade) is because of the (un)reliability issues with the Chrysler CVT in her '13 Jeep Patriot.
That thing didn't really do anything well. It was a gas hog. It got worse mileage than the bigger Durango we have now. The Patriot had the 2.4 I4, the Durango a 3.6 V6.
Weird.
We had a '07 Compass with the same engine and trans (4WD) and had no issues with the powertrain. The stepkid has it now and hasn't had anything go haywire there either. Of course, since he's had it the AC compressor grenaded, the sway bar bushings had to be replaced, and one window stopped working....
Ours got 25-26 MPG on the road too.
Quote from: NAKID on December 09, 2015, 12:13:50 PM
She's never driven a manual transmission.
First time for everything!! My wife had to learn how to drive a stick shift in Chile with a diesel car. Compared to that, the technology has made it a lot easier. Hill assist and shift indicators help a lot, not to mention that it's more difficult to stall. If it wasn't for the resale value, I would only drive manuals.
Quote from: Speedbag on December 09, 2015, 01:02:44 PM
Weird.
We had a '07 Compass with the same engine and trans (4WD) and had no issues with the powertrain. The stepkid has it now and hasn't had anything go haywire there either. Of course, since he's had it the AC compressor grenaded, the sway bar bushings had to be replaced, and one window stopped working....
Ours got 25-26 MPG on the road too.
She had an 07 Patriot before this and loved it. Gave it to her friend when she went overseas and wanted a new one when she came back. POS
Ha ha, funny you should bring this up since I picked it up last Monday.
Eldest daughter bought my Nissan Juke (fun little AWD turbo) from me and I had to replace it.
I knew this was coming and had been thinking about a WRX STI or the new Focus RS. But last year we moved to the Pinelands, now everything is flat and straight and sandy.
So I ordered this a few months ago and had it built to spec. Loving it:
(http://www.gigabikes.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10081/IMG_20151208_143551350_HDRa.jpg)
(http://www.gigabikes.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10081/IMG_20151208_144346882a.jpg)
:)
I traded my 2002 Dakota for a 2011 Ram 2500 Quad cab this summer, so I'm good for a bit. However, I'd happily trade for a diesel version of it anytime.
JM
I got this earlier this year. Its been doing great in the snow. I think its going to last a while, but if I got somthing else I would probably get one with a Diesel.
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/IMG_0082_zpsux2ogzxz.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/dapaoli/media/IMG_0082_zpsux2ogzxz.jpg.html)
Been kind of interested in this though for the fuel economy.
(http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb347/dapaoli/IMG_1542_zps47a07241.jpg) (http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/dapaoli/media/IMG_1542_zps47a07241.jpg.html)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/GK1970/0FC1F34C-7861-425A-919A-C9C215151042_zpsqchbnd9k.jpg) (http://s67.photobucket.com/user/GK1970/media/0FC1F34C-7861-425A-919A-C9C215151042_zpsqchbnd9k.jpg.html)
Got this little ripper a few years back!
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/GK1970/611E07B6-B97B-4CC1-8A6A-3621A8A320D7_zpsqm861bsf.jpg) (http://s67.photobucket.com/user/GK1970/media/611E07B6-B97B-4CC1-8A6A-3621A8A320D7_zpsqm861bsf.jpg.html)
Got this one brand new 6 months ago. She's a beauty.
Very, very happy with both.
I switched two rear wheel drive petrol/LPG fueled inline 6 cylinders for two FWD turbo 4 cylinder diesels!
Quite a paradigm shift needed but so glad I did!
Mondeo gets 6.2 liters per 100 km (46 MPG) fully loaded on the highway, the Sorento gets round 7.5 (37 MPG).
Audi a6 Avant 2,7l Diesel 2006. best car we ever owned and since it ain't worth too much anymore we will probably keep it till it falls apart...but that can take a while...
...and for fun...1990 964 with 190000km...(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/10/e8020571a62594a496ee5a2bdacfc7b9.jpg)
....hours and hours
and hours [laugh]
of internet trawling... looking for a vehicle I like better (for the spend) than the....
Skoda Superb 206TSI 4x4 Combi.
I can find nicer badges... But I cannot find a better contender.
Nope.... this... is it..
http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/superb-by-name/2968860/ (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/superb-by-name/2968860/)
Quote from: ungeheuer on March 24, 2016, 05:28:57 AM
....hours and hours
and hours [laugh]
of internet trawling... looking for a vehicle I like better (for the spend) than the....
Skoda Superb 206TSI 4x4 Combi.
I can find nicer badges... But I cannot find a better contender.
Nope.... this... is it..
http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/superb-by-name/2968860/ (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/superb-by-name/2968860/)
Are you going to get it registered in South Africa?
Quote from: Someone on March 24, 2016, 06:20:31 AM
Are you going to get it registered in South Africa?
No. But just out of interest.... why do you ask?
FYI, I also will not get it registered in Namibia, Botswana, PNG nor Malaysia. Argentina neither.
Quote from: ungeheuer on March 24, 2016, 06:49:09 AM
No. But just out of interest.... why do you ask?
FYI, I also will not get it registered in Namibia, Botswana, PNG nor Malaysia. Argentina neither.
I ask because this s the DMF and I'm a smart ass.
But you knew that already. ;D
Quote from: ungeheuer on March 24, 2016, 05:28:57 AM
http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/superb-by-name/2968860/ (http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/superb-by-name/2968860/)
Nice wagon. [thumbsup]
Ung, very nice wagon . . . the TDi should be a great daily driver . . .
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on March 24, 2016, 08:39:25 AM
Ung, very nice wagon . . . the TDi should be a great daily driver . . .
In New Zealand.
Congrats!!
Hopefully getting one of these in November when I chop my diesel Vauxhall Insignia in ....
http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microapps/vxr/insignia/index.html?&ppc=GOOGLE_700000001308527_71700000013926464_58700001122900374_p10099775464&gclid=CICQvKT32csCFVOgGQodTvsPyA&gclsrc=ds (http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microapps/vxr/insignia/index.html?&ppc=GOOGLE_700000001308527_71700000013926464_58700001122900374_p10099775464&gclid=CICQvKT32csCFVOgGQodTvsPyA&gclsrc=ds)
Yorkie
Quote from: howie on December 09, 2015, 04:24:32 AM
DSG is fantastic in the VW Audi products. So good there is no reason to buy a manual. The small Ford, at least on this side of the pond, has no idea what it is doing. I hate CVTs.
When there isn't snow my DD is a 2004 Honda Accord V6/6spd with the full HFP kit. It's been awesome and is fun to drive. I've put about 120,000 miles on it over the last 6 years or so and it's never asked me for anything. I've even seen 35mpg on extended highway trips. Not bad for a 12 year old car.
I won't lie though. Im getting tired of shifting that son of a pregnant dog.
I've been looking hard at Audi. I love the TTRS but it's only available with the manual trans, at least the ones I'd be able to afford when it's time to buy.
I really want an automatic trans with the ability to use paddle shifters (or the stick, whatever) that work a DSG that gets it right.
After driving a Skoda Superb 206TSI 4x4 wagon.... I came to the conclusion it was the nicest boring car I'd ever driven.
So ended up with a Subaru Levorg 2.0 GT-S
(http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Subaru-Levorg-1.jpg)
(http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Subaru-Levorg-2.jpg)
Subaru Levorg 2016 review | first drive video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxJwvhZyJfU#)
Not so nice.
Not so boring.
I like it. [thumbsup]
We need them to reach our shores!
Nice car . . . but, your designation would tell me you have the FA20 w/218KW-400Nm . .. or ???
Levorg.
Fitting car name for an AustrAlien to drive.
;D
"Honey, I'm taking the Levorg over to Xanapippen, would you like me to pick up some flingelsnokkers while I'm there?"
"No we're good on flingelsnokkers, but can you get some slogernubbins?"
Mmmm, slogernubbins.
Sadly, six months of attempting to build a house has convinced me that my next car is whatever cheap but not beat to death pickup truck I can find on Craigslist for a couple of thousand less than I can clear on the sale of my dream car, my 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser. :'(
Quote from: triangleforge on September 17, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
Mmmm, slogernubbins.
Sadly, six months of attempting to build a house has convinced me that my next car is whatever cheap but not beat to death pickup truck I can find on Craigslist for a couple of thousand less than I can clear on the sale of my dream car, my 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser. :'(
Building a house sounds worthwhile.
Yeah! He's got me convinced!
Next car? Wife & I work at the same place which is ~15 miles from home. Considering a used Nissan Leaf for a commuter and keep one of the petrol vehicles for longer distance trips.
Brand new '16s are ~$30-$34K but it you shop right, a gently pre-loved '15 can be had for ~$15K. At THAT price, it makes sense for us.
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on September 17, 2016, 11:06:35 AM
Nice car . . . but, your designation would tell me you have the FA20 w/218KW-400Nm . .. or ???
Runs same engine and auto drive train as WRX, which in Australia means 197kw/350Nm. Its still...... adequate [evil]
Makes a wagon fun!
Quote from: ungeheuer on September 18, 2016, 03:26:40 AM
Runs same engine and auto drive train as WRX, which in Australia means 197kw/350Nm. Its still...... adequate [evil]
Does that mean it has the CVT? How is it, I have not been impressed with the one in the standard imprezza? I have been looking for a new wagon for the wife, the WRX was high on the list but they stopped importing the wagons in 2014 to the us. Fingers crossed this makes it over. We almost got a BMW 328d but they are only imported in awd and the transfer case has proved to be very unreliable.
Yup.... seems to have fun in it . . . Enjoy it . . .
Quote from: triangleforge on September 17, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
Mmmm, slogernubbins.
Sadly, six months of attempting to build a house has convinced me that my next car is whatever cheap but not beat to death pickup truck I can find on Craigslist for a couple of thousand less than I can clear on the sale of my dream car, my 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser. :'(
Uh...pics of the Landcruiser?
It must be that time of year....
Congratulations on the new wheels Steve and Mike's wife.
Try to keep your foot out the pedal.
We just turned in the Velositer Turbo and went with a Kia Forte5 SX hatch with same engine/trani as the VT. Still peppy, but with a bit more weight to smooth out the ride.
Quote from: Satellite smithy on September 18, 2016, 08:13:00 AM
Uh...pics of the Landcruiser?
Probably my favorite - out elk hunting last December in Arizona's White Mountains, just before we went to explore down a long, steep logging "road" that was all ice, mud, and snow, punctuated by 1-2' deep meltwater puddles that we discovered only by breaking through the ice on top. Nellie the Elephant pulled through it all like Hannibal crossing the Alps. No problem.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8313/29164768673_9abd1c2a6b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Lrc4Dc)20151223_140750 (https://flic.kr/p/Lrc4Dc) by triangleforge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/7138702@N03/), on Flickr
And another from last night - one last trip to the water station (one of the big reasons I need a pickup instead) before I drove it from the cabin site where she's been living lately, back down to Prescott to get ready to sell:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8409/29497890030_b141199e5e_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LWCp1S)2016-09-19_07-13-39 (https://flic.kr/p/LWCp1S) by triangleforge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/7138702@N03/), on Flickr
How much? I'm uh, asking for a friend.
I'm pretty satisfied with the trailer method with my Ute. No need to haul around an empty truck bed most of the time. When I need a bed I just go hook it up, takes 2 minutes. Then I have a 4 seat vehicle with a large "trunk" that can be converted into a 2 seater with an even larger "trunk" most of the time.
Quote from: Satellite smithy on September 19, 2016, 07:44:52 AM
How much? I'm uh, asking for a friend.
It'll be junk in 2 years in the northeast.
Quote from: Mendo Dave on September 19, 2016, 07:50:12 AM
I'm pretty satisfied with the trailer method with my Ute. No need to haul around an empty truck bed most of the time. When I need a bed I just go hook it up, takes 2 minutes. Then I have a 4 seat vehicle with a large "trunk" that can be converted into a 2 seater with an even larger "trunk" most of the time.
Yeah, but those Landcruisers have a pretty low tow capacity.
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 07:56:07 AM
It'll be junk in 2 years in the northeast.
I was going to give it four.
Quote from: Satellite smithy on September 19, 2016, 08:09:17 AM
I was going to give it four.
Either way...just a matter of time.
Quote from: Satellite smithy on September 19, 2016, 08:09:17 AM
Yeah, but those Landcruisers have a pretty low tow capacity.
Mine will Tow 5,000 Lbs but I rarely pull anything more than 1,500 Lbs. If a guy regularly hauls 4,000 Lbs or more, I guess it's a good idea to get a truck.
Quote from: Mendo Dave on September 19, 2016, 07:50:12 AM
I'm pretty satisfied with the trailer method with my Ute. No need to haul around an empty truck bed most of the time. When I need a bed I just go hook it up, takes 2 minutes. Then I have a 4 seat vehicle with a large "trunk" that can be converted into a 2 seater with an even larger "trunk" most of the time.
That's the route I was hoping would work out, and it's been OK but not quite there. Towing capacity - as Dave mentioned - isn't beastly, but it's been adequate; I've hauled a bobcat excavator & trailer out of Flagstaff up over a the steepish Mt. Humphries pass and then back. It did fine at around 45mph (OK, 35 on the steepest parts), but was pretty annoying to the folks behind me in a hurry to start their Grand Canyon vacations. A V8 would be better for towing, and a pickup bed would mean a lot less hauling an empty trailer a hundred miles just to pick up a picture window or a half dozen straw bales. The bigger issue is that water tank - I don't have a good way to lift the tank off the trailer unless it's completely empty. If I need the trailer for something else, we have to dump out the water & muscle the tank to the ground.
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 07:56:07 AM
It'll be junk in 2 years in the northeast.
Yeah, but it'd be a glorious two years. When I lived in the DC area with my first Land Cruiser - a rusty 1973 FJ40 I bought for $500 in Northern PA, just a few miles from the NY Finger Lakes - the Cruiser folk I got to know would all speak in reverent, hushed tones about this mythical beast we called the "Arizona Truck." The sun down in the Valley around Phoenix will strip the clearcoat off some new cars in just four or five years and roast tires, but rust isn't something I think much about any more. [beer]
Dave - I'll send you a PM with details later today.
Here's the plan for my next car.
1) CHEAP
2) RWD
3) Stick
4) Sporty
5) 20+ MPG
6) Not a ragtop
6) A/C
7) Not a maintenance pig
Anyone have any bright ideas?
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
Here's the plan for my next car.
1) CHEAP
2) RWD
3) Stick
4) Sporty
5) 20+ MPG
6) Not a ragtop
6) A/C
7) Not a maintenance pig
Anyone have any bright ideas?
You going back in time?
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
Here's the plan for my next car.
1) CHEAP
2) RWD
3) Stick
4) Sporty
5) 20+ MPG
6) Not a ragtop
6) A/C
7) Not a maintenance pig
Anyone have any bright ideas?
#7 is of primary importance to me. Looks like you have it covered.
Used Mazda 3? They come with Manual's or "Autostick"
(http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/2012-Mazda-3-hatchback-102-2.jpg)
Not RWD, are they?
Quote from: triangleforge on September 19, 2016, 09:23:42 AM
Yeah, but it'd be a glorious two years. When I lived in the DC area with my first Land Cruiser - a rusty 1973 FJ40 I bought for $500 in Northern PA, just a few miles from the NY Finger Lakes - the Cruiser folk I got to know would all speak in reverent, hushed tones about this mythical beast we called the "Arizona Truck." The sun down in the Valley around Phoenix will strip the clearcoat off some new cars in just four or five years and roast tires, but rust isn't something I think much about any more. [beer]
Dave - I'll send you a PM with details later today.
My 98 GMC pickup is starting to suffer from both at this point in it's life.
I either paint it or it'll be done in a couple of years. Now that we're hauling a 28' camper I really don't want to have to replace this thing. It runs good, has all the power and suspension for camper hauling I need even in the hills and mountains, and I have no payment.
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
Here's the plan for my next car.
1) CHEAP
2) RWD
3) Stick
4) Sporty
5) 20+ MPG
6) Not a ragtop
6) A/C
7) Not a maintenance pig
Anyone have any bright ideas?
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=36250&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&showcaseListingId=0&mmt=%5BSUB%5BSUBBRZ%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&modelCode1=SUBBRZ&startYear=2014&makeCode1=SUB&showcaseOwnerId=0&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=500&listingId=423881908&Log=0 (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2014&zip=36250&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&showcaseListingId=0&mmt=%5BSUB%5BSUBBRZ%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&modelCode1=SUBBRZ&startYear=2014&makeCode1=SUB&showcaseOwnerId=0&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=500&listingId=423881908&Log=0)
Hmmm, that's a bit beyond my definition of cheap.
But a good link, thanks!
I didn't think the search features went into that amount of detail.
Dunno why, seems obvious when I look at it now.
This would be awesome, but the blown head gasket is an immediate deal-breaker:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/Coupe/Reseda+CA-91335?driveGroup=RWD&endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&fuelTypeGroup=GSL&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&maxPrice=5000&searchRadius=500&sellerType=p&sellerTypes=p&showcaseOwnerId=1363897&startYear=1981&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&Log=0&showcaseListingId=431083968&captureSearch=true&fromSIP=4DA25D53EF23F72A4A947D5292EBFAE4&showToolbar=true (http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/Coupe/Reseda+CA-91335?driveGroup=RWD&endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&fuelTypeGroup=GSL&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&maxPrice=5000&searchRadius=500&sellerType=p&sellerTypes=p&showcaseOwnerId=1363897&startYear=1981&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&Log=0&showcaseListingId=431083968&captureSearch=true&fromSIP=4DA25D53EF23F72A4A947D5292EBFAE4&showToolbar=true)
^^ That 83 RX7 is pretty clean, and having owned 3, I can testify they're a lot of fun. Not very fast, but miles of smiles.
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
Here's the plan for my next car.
1) CHEAP
2) RWD
3) Stick
4) Sporty
5) 20+ MPG
6) Not a ragtop
6) A/C
7) Not a maintenance pig
Anyone have any bright ideas?
Miata w/a hard top?!?
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 11:02:56 AM
My 98 GMC pickup is starting to suffer from both at this point in it's life.
I either paint it or it'll be done in a couple of years. Now that we're hauling a 28' camper I really don't want to have to replace this thing. It runs good, has all the power and suspension for camper hauling I need even in the hills and mountains, and I have no payment.
I sure do love that no payment smell. ;D
Quote from: triangleforge on September 19, 2016, 12:11:01 PM
I sure do love that no payment smell. ;D
Haven't had one since 94. The thought makes me sick to my stomach.
Quote from: triangleforge on September 19, 2016, 12:11:01 PM
I sure do love that no payment smell. ;D
Yeah, me too Brad.
Quote from: kopfjäger on September 19, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
Haven't had one since 94. The thought makes me sick to my stomach.
I have
one...it's all I can manage.
The way they build things today, and with the amount of salt they use here, the Escape probably won't last much past the last payment. There oughta be a law. :P
I don't think Ive ever had a payment, and I like it like that.
Although now that I can expect things to rust out post move, maybe having a truck with a lifespan longer than rust isn't worth it.
I do love the capability though.
Mebbe I'll just buy used California cars, cheap, no rust, will die in a few years anyway.
(https://static.cargurus.com/images/forsale/2016/01/25/15/30/1987_pontiac_fiero-pic-3000851547022526239-1024x768.jpeg)
Cheap
RWD
Manual
Plastic Body (No body rust anyway)
Fair amount of maintenance but not too bad.
20+ MPG
A/C
Not a ragtop, but some have removable glass sunroofs.
Fiero?
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on September 19, 2016, 02:04:49 PM
Fiero?
Yep. I'm sure he wants something newer than that, but just as cheap, that doesn't rust, and has the other stuff he wants too.
Found this for under $6k
(https://static.cargurus.com/images/forsale/2016/08/14/07/21/1989_chevrolet_camaro-pic-2565579750449400816-1024x768.jpeg)
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=&formSourceTag=112&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c3681&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=c905&zip=97603&distance=500&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=151490276 (https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourceContext=&formSourceTag=112&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&inventorySearchWidgetType=AUTO&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c3681&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=c905&zip=97603&distance=500&searchChanged=true&modelChanged=false&filtersModified=true#listing=151490276)
That's a mighty clean Fiero there, and it's the late model with the much more handsome C-pillars.
I had forgotten about them, hardly ever see them.
Plastic panels are cool.
I've got a Saturn, and it's saved me some dings.
Very reliable car for me, and it fulfills the function of transporting me warm/cool and dry, and carrying groceries and whatnot at 30mpg.
But automatic FWD and tiny motor do not boost my pulse rate at all.
Stu's suggestion of a Miata... I'm sure they're a hoot, but same lack of effect on my pulse rate.
And I'm totally down with that no payment smell.
An RX7 would be interesting, I've never even been in one.
The Camaro is an interesting option, a former workmate had one of that vintage, and he said it was stone reliable, and the little that did go wrong could be fixed with a visit to any chain car parts store.
And then there's this, but so much for cheap.
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/modified/bmw-z4-coupe-has-viper-v10 (http://www.topgear.com/car-news/modified/bmw-z4-coupe-has-viper-v10)
I've always liked the last generation MR2, and am partial to the longevity of Toyotas.
how bout a WS06 T/A?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/2002_Pontiac_Firebird_Trans_Am_WS6.JPG/1920px-2002_Pontiac_Firebird_Trans_Am_WS6.JPG)
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 03:34:48 PM
That's a mighty clean Fiero there, and it's the late model with the much more handsome C-pillars.
I had forgotten about them, hardly ever see them.
Plastic panels are cool.
I've got a Saturn, and it's saved me some dings.
Very reliable car for me, and it fulfills the function of transporting me warm/cool and dry, and carrying groceries and whatnot at 30mpg.
But automatic FWD and tiny motor do not boost my pulse rate at all.
Stu's suggestion of a Miata... I'm sure they're a hoot, but same lack of effect on my pulse rate.
And I'm totally down with that no payment smell.
An RX7 would be interesting, I've never even been in one.
The Camaro is an interesting option, a former workmate had one of that vintage, and he said it was stone reliable, and the little that did go wrong could be fixed with a visit to any chain car parts store.
IIRC the '88 or so Fiero could very easily hold the '89 Caddy V8.
Of course you can't beat the reliability of this. Probably cheap too.
(http://www.onallcylinders.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screen-Shot-2014-06-10-at-4.33.09-PM-626x448.png)
Quote from: Mendo Dave on September 19, 2016, 03:54:09 PM
Of course you can't beat the reliability of this. Probably cheap too.
(http://www.onallcylinders.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screen-Shot-2014-06-10-at-4.33.09-PM-626x448.png)
Again...
not RWD.
or how bout this,
(http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=173371&stc=1&d=1287270980)
this can be had quite cheap,
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/1984_Ferrari_308_GTB_qv.jpg)
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 03:54:58 PM
Again...
not RWD.
Tis true my matey but it tis not From wheel drive either is it. Nor is it horse drawn, or powered by the main sails as she could, nay should be. And she get's better milage than most anything, especially when pointed toward the dock from land ye see. All she needs from the engine-man is a bit of hard tack for energy, and the promise of a mermaid at the end of it's voyage to put the fire and motivation in those stumps.
or this,
(http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2015/09/2013-Ford-Mustang-GT-front-three-quarter.jpg)
crossing the Pacific,
Infiniti-G35C
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Infiniti-G35C.jpg)
while they're still available, and I've driven one, they're fun and can be made better, Genesis Coupe 3.8V6 Track
(https://www.hyundaiusa.com/images/2016/genesis-coupe/vlp/2016-genesis-coupe-vlp-module-4.jpg)
This is cheap, RWD, no rag top, good gas mileage, seats 2, exhilarating, what's not to like?
(http://www.picautos.com/images/ducati-monster-900-dark-04.jpg)
Quote from: triangleforge on September 19, 2016, 03:45:37 PM
I've always liked the last generation MR2, and am partial to the longevity of Toyotas.
I've only ridden passenger in a 1st gen MR2, and it was long ago.
I recall it was very snug.
Later ones a bit more roomy?
All that later model stuff is going to be over budget I fear.
If I were going Italian, I'd dearly love one of these:
(http://starmoz.com/images/alfa-romeo-gtv-1.jpg)
But that's over budget even for an extremely tattered example.
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 05:21:48 PM
<snip>
If I were going Italian, I'd dearly love one of these:
(http://starmoz.com/images/alfa-romeo-gtv-1.jpg)
But that's over budget even for an extremely tattered example.
What happened to the minimal maintenance requirement? [evil]
A properly prepared 510 will get your pulse going.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/53E7CFB6-3E75-461C-8D93-087BFC879DFC.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/53E7CFB6-3E75-461C-8D93-087BFC879DFC.jpg.html)
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
What happened to the minimal maintenance requirement? [evil]
If it can't even tick the first box, it's a non-starter.
But yeah, the maintenance would be ridonkulous.
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 05:27:38 PM
What happened to the minimal maintenance requirement? [evil]
It'd never wear out a set of tires.
Quote from: Satellite smithy on September 19, 2016, 06:43:20 PM
It'd never wear out a set of tires.
True, but they'd get flat spots.
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2016, 06:51:47 PM
True, but they'd get flat spots.
But look at the bright side.
Quote from: kopfjäger on September 19, 2016, 05:50:53 PM
A properly prepared 510 will get your pulse going.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/53E7CFB6-3E75-461C-8D93-087BFC879DFC.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/53E7CFB6-3E75-461C-8D93-087BFC879DFC.jpg.html)
I forgot all about those 510's, I think that may be just the thing.
GM LS series V8's and Ford 5.0's swap into Miata's...
Quote from: Duck-Stew on September 19, 2016, 07:08:14 PM
GM LS series V8's and Ford 5.0's swap into Miata's...
The price does start adding up though as you do it [cheeky]
Quote from: lethe on September 20, 2016, 12:52:43 AM
The price does start adding up though as you do it [cheeky]
There's that...yeah.
Quote from: Speeddog on September 19, 2016, 03:34:48 PM
That's a mighty clean Fiero there, and it's the late model with the much more handsome C-pillars.
I had forgotten about them, hardly ever see them.
Plastic panels are cool.
I've got a Saturn, and it's saved me some dings.
Very reliable car for me, and it fulfills the function of transporting me warm/cool and dry, and carrying groceries and whatnot at 30mpg.
But automatic FWD and tiny motor do not boost my pulse rate at all.
Stu's suggestion of a Miata... I'm sure they're a hoot, but same lack of effect on my pulse rate.
And I'm totally down with that no payment smell.
An RX7 would be interesting, I've never even been in one.
The Camaro is an interesting option, a former workmate had one of that vintage, and he said it was stone reliable, and the little that did go wrong could be fixed with a visit to any chain car parts store.
RX-7/8 fails the maintenance requirement. I'd suggest a BMW. Pick a 3 series that counts as cheap... they are easier to work on than a rotary.
Quote from: Dirty Duc on October 26, 2016, 10:06:13 PM
RX-7/8 fails the maintenance requirement. I'd suggest a BMW. Pick a 3 series that counts as cheap... they are easier to work on than a rotary.
E30 looks like a Toyota with a BMW grille grafted on. :(
Mmmm, yeah, maybe an 1st gen, E21.
https://www.carfax.com/vehicles/WBACA6328RFK61992-used-1994-bmw-3-series-318i--kingsport
WTF: $1999?
That's a used car dealer... they have to make money somehow, even if it seems extravagant by private party prices.
I don't advocate that as a purchase venue. That's also a long way from you and a likely horrible automatic. It seems to me that stick shifts are more accessible.
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2017&zip=91764&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&showcaseListingId=436705162&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE%2CHATCH%2CLUXURY%2CSEDAN%2CWAGON&driveGroup=RWD&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=55444870&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=500&listingId=433325932&Log=0
Also with the power of depreciation:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2017&zip=91764&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&transmissionCode=MAN&transmissionCodes=MAN&showcaseListingId=436705162&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE%2CHATCH%2CLUXURY%2CSEDAN%2CWAGON&driveGroup=RWD&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=1981&showcaseOwnerId=55444870&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=500&listingId=415531775&Log=0
Jeebus, I thought that $1999 for the 318 was low.
I suspect that both the '93 318 and '01 540 have issues passing smog inspection here due to the low prices.
But damn, those are tempting samples, 4.4 liter DOHC V-8 in that 5-series.
Maybe in spring there will be some low hanging fruit within reach, I'm kinda strapped now.
You are quite the enabler! [laugh]
Genuine thanks, that's awesome!
The depreciation hit on "luxury" brands is pretty fierce, especially with mileage thrown in. At 5 years you are looking at something like 70%, which means you can buy a relatively recent sample of a $100k car for $30k.
I wouldn't recommend a used BMW to everybody, as the dealer prices for repairs are exorbitant. There's a few special tools, and some surprising wear items (like special bushings in the rear suspension that cause the rear toe to go all wonky and eat tires). Forum and aftermarket support is pretty good, too.
Thats why I have a couple of MB vehicles around here. This ML 320 I got was shockingly inexpensive. Pretty easy to work on too, not that it needs much work.
My next car might be a EV.
Quote from: Mendo Dave on October 27, 2016, 07:33:05 AM
Thats why I have a couple of MB vehicles around here. This ML 320 I got was shockingly inexpensive. Pretty easy to work on too, not that it needs much work.
My next car might be a EV.
Just bought an EV. '15 Nissan Leaf. If you can live with the range and the charging capabilities, it's a very nicely appointed little car. PM me if you want to discuss. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Mendo Dave on October 27, 2016, 07:33:05 AM
Thats why I have a couple of MB vehicles around here. This ML 320 I got was shockingly inexpensive. Pretty easy to work on too, not that it needs much work.
My next car might be a EV.
I wouldn't mind a late 70s or early 80s Benz. I bet it's within my mechanical knowledge too, which is a good thing.
JM
me want
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5810382148.html
Quote from: Grampa on October 28, 2016, 11:58:55 AM
me want
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/5810382148.html
Go get!
To replace our dieselgate car, we have been seriously considering an electric car.
B's commute to the office is 30ish miles round trip, but my commute has grown to 100 miles.
An all electric would work for him no problem, me not so much.
That leaves us with the Volt. It has enough range to get me at least one way to shop, hoping that using the regen mode could extend that a little bit, and the back up gas engine when the batteries are drained.
The new Soul Ev may have enough range to do round trip for me, but the haven't released the range for the 2017 model, 2016 currently 93 miles.
A Tesla that would work for both us is way out of our price range.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 29, 2016, 07:42:44 AM
To replace our dieselgate car, we have been seriously considering an electric car.
B's commute to the office is 30ish miles round trip, but my commute has grown to 100 miles.
An all electric would work for him no problem, me not so much.
That leaves us with the Volt. It has enough range to get me at least one way to shop, hoping that using the regen mode could extend that a little bit, and the back up gas engine when the batteries are drained.
The new Soul Ev may have enough range to do round trip for me, but the haven't released the range for the 2017 model, 2016 currently 93 miles.
A Tesla that would work for both us is way out of our price range.
I would expect that battery prices will drop significantly and performane will improve in two to three years. So there will likely be more EV options.
We are not looking for 2-3 years down the road. We will need a car as soon as VW will take it back (2-3 months).
What's wrong with the VW?
We don't own it, and they can take their polluting, cheating, defrauding, POS back.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 29, 2016, 09:07:22 AM
We don't own it, and they can take their polluting, cheating, defrauding, POS back.
Gotcha. I think Chevy has a new car called a Bolt (not the Volt)
Yea here. Not sure if there is a lease option.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-chevrolet-bolt-ev-first-drive-review/
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 29, 2016, 09:07:22 AM
We don't own it, and they can take their polluting, cheating, defrauding, POS back.
AGREED!
Quote from: Mendo Dave on October 29, 2016, 09:24:23 AM
Gotcha. I think Chevy has a new car called a Bolt (not the Volt)
Yea here. Not sure if there is a lease option.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-chevrolet-bolt-ev-first-drive-review/
Although it's got the range, it is a brand new design and there will be glitches for certain and GM hasn't been the best with admitting or fixing them. Plus, I'm not 100% convinced that GM (given their history with the EV1) is committed to EV technology.
DesmoDiva: Leaf for his commute and maybe a hybrid for you... PM me with any Leaf questions.
Quote from: DesmoDiva on October 29, 2016, 07:42:44 AM
To replace our dieselgate car, we have been seriously considering an electric car.
B's commute to the office is 30ish miles round trip, but my commute has grown to 100 miles.
An all electric would work for him no problem, me not so much.
That leaves us with the Volt. It has enough range to get me at least one way to shop, hoping that using the regen mode could extend that a little bit, and the back up gas engine when the batteries are drained.
The new Soul Ev may have enough range to do round trip for me, but the haven't released the range for the 2017 model, 2016 currently 93 miles.
A Tesla that would work for both us is way out of our price range.
Check out the new Prius Prime when it goes on sale next year.
The big truck swap is now complete; the 1985 Land Cruiser is in transit to its new home in Ithaca, NY (where I try not to think of the oxidizing fate that awaits it, as DP noted...). After looking at a bunch of work trucks, I settled on this:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5335/30651497816_553526b28c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NGyWqh)20161030_142737 (https://flic.kr/p/NGyWqh) by triangleforge (https://www.flickr.com/photos/7138702@N03/), on Flickr
2001, 2wd, base model (bought it from a custom home building company that was refreshing its fleet) with the 4.8 liter V8. It's got some minor things I need to fix, but it's very clean and solid - and boring as hell. ;D
Because we'll be dealing with snow and mud (and muddy snow) up north of Flagstaff, I'll probably invest in limited slip and better rear tires, but for now it'll do the trick.
https://youtu.be/sAmz-Evlmxk
I hear that Bick is going to hook me up with one.
A very unsexy, but economical 2017 Chevy Cruze hatchback.