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Title: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 18, 2016, 04:17:12 PM
A recent change to a Renthal road medium handlebar got me a bit more steering, lock to lock, than the stock steel bar.  With more rise, backsweep and upsweep, I've got a more comfortable position.  But I could have an even smaller, almost "normal" turning radius if the lower edge of the handlebar switches didn't contact the tank at full lock.  I notice that the latest Ducatis, Panigale, Scrambler, etc, use smaller switch housings that are round and don't have the protruding square bottom that the earlier switches do, and should have more clearance to the tank. Just looking at photos on ebay, it seems that  both types of right hand switches have the same number of pins (4) in their connectors, and that the left ones have 8 pins.  The M695 has the nice metri-pack type sealed connectors, but the later switches have smaller white plastic ones, so some cutting and splicing would be required to adapt.  Can anyone tell me why this wouldn't work?

Thanks


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: NAKID on May 18, 2016, 04:56:39 PM
Seems like a big hassle to get a tiny bit more steering if that's your only intended benefit...


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 18, 2016, 06:08:49 PM
As it's set up now, although better than stock, the monster is still harder to maneuver than I'd like.  Stock, it was ridiculous.  Now I can at least make a u-turn on a narrow two lane country road.  And the later switch housings are nicer looking...


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: Speeddog on May 18, 2016, 06:26:22 PM
AFAIK, the new switchgear is designed for providing only a 'signal' voltage to the ECU/dash, and the actual electrical power is then controlled by relays, etc.

So you would need some additional electrickery to use them.

There may be some folks here that are fluent in Sparky and can outline how big a job that would be.


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 18, 2016, 08:51:08 PM
Thanks Speedog - that would explain the tiny pin contacts in the connectors...


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: kopfjäger on May 20, 2016, 04:43:39 PM
It's doable.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/AE3B9327-CD5D-4878-BC38-E0133AAB0350.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/AE3B9327-CD5D-4878-BC38-E0133AAB0350.jpg.html)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/90A303E7-1185-413C-B171-D548161D68CF.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/chiflado/media/90A303E7-1185-413C-B171-D548161D68CF.jpg.html)


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 21, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
Thanks for the photos, Kopf - they confirm what I meant by "nicer looking".  Would you elaborate on the installation?  Are these on an earlier model like my 695?  Other modifications required?  I was hoping to just plug 'n play...

Thanks


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: kopfjäger on May 21, 2016, 06:39:10 PM
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=59940.msg1106474#msg1106474 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=59940.msg1106474#msg1106474)


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 21, 2016, 07:10:23 PM
I see - maybe in my next life, if I come back as an electrician...  :-\


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 22, 2016, 07:39:26 AM
...but while waiting to see how that turns out, I'm gonna wander over to Ebuy and see if there's something from the land of the rising sun.  ;)


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: kopfjäger on May 22, 2016, 08:06:24 AM
...but while waiting to see how that turns out, I'm gonna wander over to Ebuy and see if there's something from the land of the rising sun.  ;)

I imagine there might be several options out there, none of which are gonna be plug & play.


Title: Re: M695 switchgear and turning radius
Post by: cencalal on May 22, 2016, 02:46:33 PM
Suzuki GSXR1300R switches look like a possibility.  Smaller rounded shape, better black plastic housings, same functions, not fine gauge wires...might give them a try.
The right side housing has right angle throttle cables included, would need to adapt the one that pulls since the M695 has a single.
The left side comes with a choke/fast idle lever which the M695 also has - I've never used mine.  (In fact, since I added the FatDuc oxygen sensor manipulator, the bike warms up faster and runs much better when cold.)


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