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Title: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 20, 2016, 05:29:07 AM
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/mugello-motogp-iannone-blitzes-the-field-in-second-practice-738550/ (http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/mugello-motogp-iannone-blitzes-the-field-in-second-practice-738550/)

Practice times:

Pos   Rider   Team   Bike   Time   Gap
1   ItalyAndrea Iannone    ItalyDucati Team   Ducati Desmosedici GP16   1:47.696   
2   SpainJorge Lorenzo    JapanYamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha YZR-M1   1:48.157   +0.461
3   ItalyMichele Pirro    ItalyDucati Team   Ducati Desmosedici GP16   1:48.245   +0.549
4   SpainAleix Espargaro    JapanTeam Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki GSX-RR   1:48.270   +0.574
5   SpainMarc Marquez    JapanRepsol Honda Team   Honda RC213V   1:48.290   +0.594
6   ItalyValentino Rossi    JapanYamaha Factory Racing   Yamaha YZR-M1   1:48.340   +0.644
7   SpainMaverick Viñales    JapanTeam Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki GSX-RR   1:48.345   +0.649
8   United KingdomScott Redding    ItalyPramac Racing   Ducati Desmosedici GP15   1:48.406   +0.710
9   United KingdomCal Crutchlow    MonacoTeam LCR   Honda RC213V   1:48.458   +0.762
10   SpainPol Espargaro    FranceTech 3   Yamaha YZR-M1   1:48.470   +0.774
11   SpainDani Pedrosa    JapanRepsol Honda Team   Honda RC213V   1:48.713   +1.017
12   ItalyDanilo Petrucci    ItalyPramac Racing   Ducati Desmosedici GP15   1:48.752   +1.056
13   ItalyAndrea Dovizioso    ItalyDucati Team   Ducati Desmosedici GP16   1:48.816   +1.120
14   ColombiaYonny Hernandez    SpainAspar Racing Team   Ducati Desmosedici GP14   1:48.832   +1.136
15   United KingdomBradley Smith    FranceTech 3   Yamaha YZR-M1   1:49.199   +1.503
16   SpainHector Barbera    SpainAvintia Racing   Ducati Desmosedici GP14   1:49.234   +1.538
17   SpainTito Rabat    BelgiumMarc VDS Racing   Honda RC213V   1:49.648   +1.952
18   AustraliaJack Miller    BelgiumMarc VDS Racing   Honda RC213V   1:49.698   +2.002
19   IrelandEugene Laverty    SpainAspar Racing Team   Ducati Desmosedici GP14   1:49.852   +2.156
20   SpainAlvaro Bautista    ItalyAprilia Racing Team   Aprilia RS-GP   1:49.913   +2.217
21   GermanyStefan Bradl    ItalyAprilia Racing Team   Aprilia RS-GP   1:50.368   +2.672
22   FranceLoris Baz    SpainAvintia Racing   Ducati Desmosedici GP14   1:51.055   +3.359


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: koko64 on May 20, 2016, 11:17:39 AM
Hoping the Ducatis can bank a good result.  Top speed should be interesting.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: TitanMonsterS4R on May 20, 2016, 11:26:34 AM
So Interesting seeing where all the Ducs are. WTF is Dovi doing in 14th spot with Pirro being 3rd?


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: Speeddog on May 20, 2016, 11:39:20 AM
Dovi's neck is jacked, old injury playing up.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: duccarlos on May 20, 2016, 03:17:32 PM
Also, a bunch of backmarkers were getting tows. Pirro was following Jorghey a bunch of laps and Aleix was following Dani.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 20, 2016, 03:37:18 PM
fp1 had the colombian guy 1st


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: kopfjäger on May 20, 2016, 03:49:39 PM
fp1 had the colombian guy 1st

Yonny Hernández ;)


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 20, 2016, 03:52:18 PM
Yonny Hernández ;)
yeah, the colombian guy


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: kopfjäger on May 20, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
 :D


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: stopintime on May 21, 2016, 03:20:19 AM
FP3


1 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Ducati Team Ducati 348.7 1'46.991 
2 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 341.7 1'47.080 0.089 / 0.089
3 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 341.5 1'47.180 0.189 / 0.100
4 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 344.8 1'47.327 0.336 / 0.147
5 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 341.6 1'47.393 0.402 / 0.066
6 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA OCTO Pramac Yakhnich Ducati 347.3 1'47.408 0.417 / 0.015
7 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 340.4 1'47.504 0.513 / 0.096
8 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 340.4 1'47.540 0.549 / 0.036
9 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 341.4 1'47.583 0.592 / 0.043
10 51 Michele PIRRO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 348.8 1'47.619 0.628 / 0.036
11 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda Honda 339.7 1'47.625 0.634 / 0.006
12 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 349.1 1'47.859 0.868 / 0.234
13 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Yakhnich Ducati 344.2 1'47.939 0.948 / 0.080
14 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Avintia Racing Ducati 345.4 1'48.003 1.012 / 0.064
15 43 Jack MILLER AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 338.6 1'48.015 1.024 / 0.012
16 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 336.2 1'48.046 1.055 / 0.031
17 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 343.7 1'48.048 1.057 / 0.002
18 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 329.7 1'48.305 1.314 / 0.257
19 6 Stefan BRADL GER Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 334.8 1'48.592 1.601 / 0.287
20 76 Loris BAZ FRA Avintia Racing Ducati 341.1 1'48.725 1.734 / 0.133
21 50 Eugene LAVERTY IRL Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 345.4 1'49.285 2.294 / 0.560
 53 Tito RABAT SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS Honda   


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: stopintime on May 21, 2016, 04:16:55 AM
FP4


1 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Ducati Team Ducati 349.6 1'47.284 
2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 337.6 1'47.376 0.092 / 0.092
3 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 338.5 1'47.545 0.261 / 0.169
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 347.1 1'47.911 0.627 / 0.366
5 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Yakhnich Ducati 341.9 1'47.987 0.703 / 0.076
6 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 343.5 1'48.002 0.718 / 0.015
7 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 338.0 1'48.024 0.740 / 0.022
8 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 338.9 1'48.036 0.752 / 0.012
9 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda Honda 341.1 1'48.048 0.764 / 0.012
10 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 338.5 1'48.052 0.768 / 0.004
11 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 341.3 1'48.187 0.903 / 0.135
12 43 Jack MILLER AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS Honda 337.0 1'48.269 0.985 / 0.082
13 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA OCTO Pramac Yakhnich Ducati 346.4 1'48.439 1.155 / 0.170
14 8 Hector BARBERA SPA Avintia Racing Ducati 344.6 1'48.439 1.155 
15 44 Pol ESPARGARO SPA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 340.3 1'48.445 1.161 / 0.006
16 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 340.5 1'48.590 1.306 / 0.145
17 51 Michele PIRRO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 343.2 1'48.697 1.413 / 0.107
18 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 331.7 1'48.951 1.667 / 0.254
19 50 Eugene LAVERTY IRL Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 342.5 1'49.006 1.722 / 0.055
20 6 Stefan BRADL GER Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 337.5 1'49.298 2.014 / 0.292
21 76 Loris BAZ FRA Avintia Racing Ducati 339.8 1'49.471 2.187 / 0.173
 53 Tito RABAT SPA Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS Honda


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ducpainter on May 21, 2016, 04:53:49 AM
...and when it counts...

Rossi
Vinales
The Maniac

Ducati's blunder in 5th.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: stopintime on May 21, 2016, 04:59:43 AM
Q2


1 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 340.3 1'46.504 
2 25 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 339.6 1'46.598 0.094 / 0.094
3 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Ducati Team Ducati 347.3 1'46.607 0.103 / 0.009
4 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 341.2 1'46.759 0.255 / 0.152
5 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 340.4 1'46.882 0.378 / 0.123
6 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 339.9 1'47.186 0.682 / 0.304
7 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 341.6 1'47.218 0.714 / 0.032
8 38 Bradley SMITH GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 338.8 1'47.247 0.743 / 0.029
9 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA OCTO Pramac Yakhnich Ducati 349.4 1'47.261 0.757 / 0.014
10 45 Scott REDDING GBR OCTO Pramac Yakhnich Ducati 345.2 1'47.359 0.855 / 0.098
11 51 Michele PIRRO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 346.4 1'47.361 0.857 / 0.002
12 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ COL Aspar Team MotoGP Ducati 346.0 1'47.436 0.932 / 0.075


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: lazylightnin717 on May 21, 2016, 05:04:06 AM
Kopf's boy looking good out there  [thumbsup]

Looking forward to the race. I want to see some good action


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: HotIce on May 21, 2016, 05:57:43 AM
The two seems like to be playing in the same team, with VR thanking Maverick for leading him through his best lap  [coffee]


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: MadDuck on May 21, 2016, 09:48:24 PM
Go Rossi! Go Vinales!  [Dolph]  [Dolph]


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: koko64 on May 22, 2016, 05:05:40 AM
Great race. The winner withstood intense pressure.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: duccarlos on May 22, 2016, 05:11:09 AM
Jorghey is lucky that the Honda has no traction out of corners. If it wasn't for the wheelie... Horrible start for Looney Jose. He had the pace.

Tough day for Vale. He would have eventually passed the douche. What is up with Yamaha losing 2 engines in a day?


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2016, 05:14:52 AM
It would be interesting knowing how close the two motors were in miles.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ab on May 22, 2016, 05:16:55 AM
Very sad for V46.

Great come back for Ianone.  They should have kept him Ducati for next year.

I never root for MM93 but today I did as I dislike JLo.  But I must say that JLo fought off hard and clenched it somehow.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: HotIce on May 22, 2016, 06:59:53 AM
D.A.M.N.!  [bang]
So long for the famous Japanese engine reliability  [coffee]


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: kopfjäger on May 22, 2016, 07:43:00 AM
What a battle for the win.  [clap] Once again I gotta put my boy in contact with Eddie Krawiec.



Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2016, 08:00:32 AM
What a battle for the win.  [clap] Once again I gotta put my boy in contact with Eddie Krawiec.


He'll be a force when he learns to start and ride on fresh tires and a full tank.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: Speeddog on May 22, 2016, 08:22:37 AM
That was a really entertaining race!

Can't help but think how much better it would have been if Rossi's motor hadn't popped.

I think half the field overshot T1 on lap 2!

Looked like Baz got jacked up in the T1 crash.

I thought MM had pulled a rabbit out on his last pass, but that wheelie on the run to the flag killed it.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2016, 08:27:05 AM
That was a really entertaining race!

<snip>

You should watch moto3.  :o


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: Speeddog on May 22, 2016, 09:11:37 AM
You should watch moto3.  :o

No doubt!

From Mat Oxley's twitter:
It was Jorge's 3rd engine that popped in WUP, a bit premature compared to the first two engines he had in play.
It *appears* that it was Rossi's 3rd engine as well, but can't say for sure.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjEtZCOUYAAaNDA.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjEtM8nUUAAa_tI.jpg:large)

But it did, for sure, put Rossi in a big hole in the championship run.
Given the way the fight has been going, it's not insurmountable.

But, both of the boys in blue losing an engine could be a bad omen.
Gonna be a grind for the boys in Hamamatsu.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: thought on May 22, 2016, 10:01:38 AM
Can't remember the last time one of the Japanese factory teams had a engine pop... I don't think Spies had engine probs, everything else broke though.

Great race though... Was still pulling for a Rossi win.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: Speeddog on May 22, 2016, 10:09:56 AM
Spies had an engine pop at Indy.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ducpainter on May 22, 2016, 10:24:13 AM
Didn't Suzuki lose some last season?


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2016, 02:54:53 PM
Just finished watching the Moto3 race, didnt wake up on time this morning . . I am tired from watching . .  wished the MotoGP guys would raxe like that  . . .


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: koko64 on May 22, 2016, 02:59:42 PM
Didn't Suzuki lose some last season?

Yep, I think a few. They needed their extra engine allocation.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: The Architect on May 22, 2016, 04:29:22 PM
That was a good race!

Have to feel bad for Rossi.  He had the pace. It was only a matter of time and he would have passed J-Lo and the celebration would have been endless.

Good job by Crazy Joe.  220+mph,  fastest speed record in motogp.  To bad about the clutch slip start.  Qualifying was interesting.  It felt like Iannone was poking J-Lo with a stick?

The last lap was intense.  It was a case of who to root for, which is the lessor of the two d-bags?


Side note: did you guys see the commercial for Arch Motorcycles?



Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: The Architect on May 22, 2016, 05:15:45 PM
Moto3  is like a roller derby!   What a race!


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 22, 2016, 05:20:29 PM
Moto3  is like a roller derby!   What a race!
the gap between 1st and last less than 2secs at one point of the race


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: thought on May 22, 2016, 08:29:06 PM
Moto3 was ridiculous. The standings list on the left side of screen couldn't keep up with the position changes at some points. I can't imagine how crazy t must be to be in the middle of that pack.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: DarkMonster620 on May 24, 2016, 08:02:56 AM
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/yamaha-suspects-overrevving-to-blame-for-engine-failures-739881/ (http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/yamaha-suspects-overrevving-to-blame-for-engine-failures-739881/)


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: duccarlos on May 24, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
Those last lap high sides were painful to watch.


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: OT on May 25, 2016, 01:07:14 PM
http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/yamaha-suspects-overrevving-to-blame-for-engine-failures-739881/ (http://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/yamaha-suspects-overrevving-to-blame-for-engine-failures-739881/)
Stoner was in the Ducati garage, on the BeIN telecast, -- clearly, the cause was sabotage.  [evil]

Maybe Yamaha just put crappy oil in both engines  [coffee]


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: koko64 on May 25, 2016, 02:38:55 PM
Mineral Yamalube ;D


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: Speeddog on June 02, 2016, 07:56:50 AM
This just in:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160602a.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2016/Jun/160602a.htm)

And I missed the best part on my first read:
"After the technical problems in Mugello the two defective engines were returned to YMC for investigation."

A most curious choice of words, given that it's a Press Release, and one I would suspect required ten different signatures from top floor offices.


Reminds me of F1.
"Yes, we did not finish due to an electronics problem when the conrod sliced the ECU into three pieces "

That Desmo valve gear must look quite sweet to the Boys in Blue right about now.  ;D


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: koko64 on June 02, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: OT on June 03, 2016, 10:10:30 AM
Look for Tsuya to be carrying the short knife in the pits over the weekend.

And, maybe it's time to yank the engine limitation rule, as money doesn't appear to be an issue anymore


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: duccarlos on June 03, 2016, 10:44:05 AM
Wasn't it the manufacturers that were complaining about cost back in the day?


Title: Re: MUGELLO MOTOGP
Post by: ducpainter on June 03, 2016, 05:08:54 PM
Wasn't it the manufacturers that were complaining about cost back in the day?
Yup...

in regard to Dorna's cut. ;D


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